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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Sussex => Topic started by: Jane Masri on Sunday 22 February 04 11:23 GMT (UK)
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Would welcome an exchange of information on any or both of the above names,
Thanks,
Jane
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Hi,
I am currently tracing the Braby side of my family in Brighton. We believe the family originated from West Sussex - Amberley. My GGG Grandfather William Braby b. 1787 was married in Singleton in 1822 so we feel that we may well descend from Amberley. He was a Poulterer by traden and I have since found out that he had a 'pitch' in Market Place, Brighton.
I have managed to ascertain quite alot about the Braby's in Brighton and we have come across of a very interesting series of events! This family tree is very personnal to me as I was a Braby before I married and I have often wondered where the family and name came from.
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Hi Fosbeck,
I'm sure you know there was a huge clan of Braby's in Amberley, Sx. My research seems to indicate that at least one BRABY re-located from Amberley to the Horsham area. I have one that I have identified, a ROBERT BRABY (possibly the son of Thomas & Mary nee Kent) who married a Sarah Jenkins 1777 Rudgwick Sx. My own line of inquiry is revealing that the original name from the Horsham area was BRABY (and its many variants) which changes into the name of BRAVERY at varying times from the mid-1700s to late 1700s. I have found many that are born as BRABY, but marry & die as BRAVERY. It would seem that this was not a deliberate change on the part of family members for sinister reasons, more like errors in the parish records (hard of hearing parish clerks) As for the Brighton area, there is a strong contingent of both Bravery's & Braby's to this day. The Bravery line seems to me to have started with a HENRY Bravery marrying a Philadelphia Winter, 1832, Brighton. As yet I have not identified his parents or their place of origin but it could well be his father started out in life as a BRABY from W. Sussex
Would love to stay in touch & discuss this further,
Jane
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Hi Jane,
Thanks for your response...
We believe that my GGG Grandfather William Braby b 1787 is a son of: Robert Braby & Sarah Jenkins. However, until I get to the West Sussex records office I cannot be totally sure - I need to try and get his baptism record to confirm parents & place of residence.
William Braby married Anne Upstell from Singleton in 1822 but I have a feeling that this William had a previous wife - Hester or Ester as William would have been 35yrs old when he married Anne Upstell which was rather old in those days for a first marriage.
As I have already said, William was a Master Poulterer and ended up in Brighton. He & Anne have 3 children that I know about:
George Braby
James Braby (my GG Grandfather) m. Emily Augusta Smith
Ruth Braby
It is so frustrating not being about to confirm if William comes from Amberley and that his parents were: Sarah Jenkins & Robert Braby. I have now joined the Sussex Family History Group in the hope of laying my hands on more information that will help me with my search.
Have you come across this William Braby?
Kind regards
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Hi Fosbeck,
I haven't forgotten you. I don't think I can add too much to my last email. I had William BRABY (1787) on my notes as the son of Robert & Sarah Jenkins who married in Rudgwick 1777. Robert, being the son of Thomas & Mary Kent. I think I got that information from a pedigree resource on Family Search. My interest being that I was trying to find a male BRABY who settled in the Horsham area (Rudgwick is near Horsham) & Amberley seemed to be the largest concentration of the BRABY name, thinking that this might shed light on my own line of descent which starts with the BRABY name in that area. The name changing to BRAVERY in later years.
I've just received some fiche from Surrey & noted that the name BRABY is listed in the index alongside, BRABY & BREFERY, so you might like to bear that in mind. Another piece of information is that there appeared to be two generations of BRABY in ALFOLD Surrey, a HENRY & Elizabeth (BETTY) who had 7 children, the eldest being HENRY 1771. The parents, Henry & Elizabeth do not appear to have been born in Alfold. Henry, the son, marries a Mary and remains in Alfold, having 12 children. After about 1818 (the burial of Mary wife of Henry junior) there doesn't seem to be anymore mention of BRABY or BRAVERY.
If I find anymore information I'll get in contact. Likewise if you find anything, I would much appreciate hearing from you,
Jane
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Hi Jane,
Thanks for your response, I am sure I have some Braby's in Rudgwick but I need to look on my database and get back to you.
This family seemed to get about but I am sure we will can 'nail' them down.
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You bet we'll 'nail' them down ;D
Jane
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Jane,
Sorry I have not been able to get into my database due to an tech problem and also I have been up in Iceland for the last few days. I am so glad to back as it is much warmer here in the UK than up there! No, I was not family tree researching up in Iceland although it would not surprise me if some Braby's went to the 'frozen North'.
As soon as I have managed to get back in to the database I will start my checks.
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Hi Fosbeck (is that really your name?)
Wow, Iceland, I'm impressed!
Look forward to hearing from you,
Jane
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Hi Jane,
Yes, Iceland is an experience - very cold and almost 24 hrs daylight at the moment.
My name is actually Rebecca so 'Fosbeck' is a combination of first & Surname which what I am called from time to time.
Anyway, have not forgotten to check the database and will get back to you soon.
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Great. I thought I was talking to a guy :-[ looking forward to hearing from you, particularly now as I seem to be in a muddle with Braby's & Bravery's between Surrey & Sussex, so any information is going to be greatly received!
Jane
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Jane,
I have e mailed you via the SFHG - I have only just 'sussed' that you are also a member!!!!
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Hi Rebecca,
Yes I'm a member of SFHG, but I haven't figured out their email list yet or do you mean from the members list?
Jane
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Rebecca,
Just received your email through SFHG. I will get back to you shortly, probably with some extra news. Didn't I tell you about Robert & Sarah Jenkins?
Jane
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Jane,
Just to let you know, I have a nasty PC virus at the moment, so I am having to use public internet access. Hoepfully, my husband will sort this problem out in the next day or so. However, I did respond to your e mail last night before the PC completely went crackers! Can't get out onto the internet and it is affecting my BT email account.
So, don't panic if I do not reply to e mails over the next few days.
Rebecca
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Hi rebecca,
Oh nasty virus!
I did send an email this morning, here it is as you probably didn't get it,
Hi Rebecca,
So glad the information was of such help, it's so exciting when you get some juicy information that helps you over the 'brickwall'. I'm going to be looking more closely at the Amberley Braby's, so I'll get back to you with my finds. I'm pretty sure that the father of Robert (who married Sarah Jenkins) was Thomas 1718-1798 who married Marry Kent b. 1722. have you been on Familysearch? As on the pedigree resources someone has put up a pedigree for this line. On close inspection, it's not that accurate, but a good starting point,
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Hi Rebecca,
Are you still having computer problems?
Jane
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Hi,
The Braby/Bravery thread seems to have long gone cold.
Unfortuneately I have only just discovered it. Interestingly for me it appears that Rebecca (Fosbeck) is a not too distant relative of mine.
I have recently started some investigations into the origins of my family, as yet I have got no further than online searches, but I have reached a similar point to the start of this thread.
James Braby and Emily Augusta Smith of Brighton are my G Grandparents.
I too believe that James' father William has a connection with Amberley and Rudgwick but so far I am unable to prove it. My grandfather had always claimed that his father James was related to James "squire" of Rudgwick.
I have been trying to find the connection between James Braby of Maybanks Rudgwick and James Braby of Brighton. Is anyone in a position to help.
Jarby
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Hi Jarby,
Welcome to the BRABY/BRAVERY saga ;)
I'm going to dig deep into my notes this afternoon, so might be able to come up with some information for you. As far as I can remember, there has been no new developments on the BRABY Amberley/Rudgwick front, but I think I can come up with your 'Squire' of Rudgwick family story remembered by your grandfather!
Jane
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Hi Jane,
Thanks for the prompt response. You have given me some useful stuff to look through. I am sure that you are right that my grandfather's information is unreliable, I understand that he was very much inclined to a romanticised view of his ancestors rather than facts. Anyway, I suppose if he had been better on facts I would not have the fun of searching the internet. If I come across anything that I think will be of interest to you I will be back.
Thanks
Jarby
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Hi Jarby,
Glad that got through.
After I had sent it, I felt that the Rudgwick Braby paper could have been a little more relevant to you. The one I sent was one I had done for someone looking for the Guildford branch. If you would like me to send a better one outlining this line in a fuller context, let me know.
It's always good to hear of family lore, even if it's a little embroidered, 'cos it makes you go back & dig again!
Try www.rudgwick.net/history, it has an interesting & amusing history of the parish.
Jane
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Hi Jane,
I am still working through your information, but further details on the Rudgwick side would be gratefully received. Thanks for the link to the village site.
Regards
Jarby
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Hi Jarby,
Be glad to illuminate on the Rudgwick Site, but can you wait a few days? As I've got some HOT research of my own...exciting!
If you don't hear from me by Monday, give me a reminder!
Jane
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Thanks Jane,
I appreciate your finding time to send me the file. It looks like it confirms one or two things I had suspected from my research and gives me further possibilities. It is certainly very confusing when there are so many James Brabys, but who am I to complain about that!
Regards
Jarby
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Hi James.
I take it you got the document I sent yesterday?
If you want anymore information, just let me know,
Jane
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Hi guys
I am trying to trace information about my dads side of the family. My dad's name was Gerald Bravery, son of Iris and William Bravery. All I know is that my Dad's father had died in the war before he was born and that when he was young they lived above a shop in George Street, Hove.
My brother Christian Bravery (24) and myself (Katherine Bravery, 31) have lived in Brighton all are lives and know very little of our cultural heritage or where our name comes from. My Dad and Grandmother have both been dead for a number of years so we have little to go on.
I would appreciate any guidance from anyone who might know of my Father or Grandfather
Thanks
Kate
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Hi Kate,
AS you can see from my research names at the bottom of my reply, you have come to the right place! Bravery was my mother's name and I've been researching it for more than 30 years, so I can give you your linneage right back to 1600 :D
Can you send me a personal message please, as I wont be able to send the files that I'm sure you'll want to have, through Rootschat. Just click on my name and at the bottom it says, send Jane a personal message', please include your email address so that we can start up a correspondance.
This is VERY exciting ;)
Jane
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Hi gang...just wondering...I have a MARY BRABY born about 1710 in Pulborough (wherever that is), England. She married in 1730 in Pulborough to a John White Sr., he was born about 1710 in Pulborough too. They had a son, John White Jr. born December 11, 1733 in Pulborough. Any Connections????
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Hi, from a Bravery in Australia... where does the Braby come in?
Mark