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Title: Where can I gain access to/find birth records after 1905?
Post by: tisonlymoi on Thursday 02 November 06 16:47 GMT (UK)
I'm looking for family members born in Dumbarton after 1910 but Scotlands People only goes up to 1905 for births so where are the rest of them?

I'm fairly new to all this so any advise would be HUGELY appreciated.

Thanks, Tis
Title: Re: Where can I gain access to/find birth records after 1905?
Post by: RJ_Paton on Thursday 02 November 06 17:36 GMT (UK)
A lot depends on where you live but generally the Records Office in Edinburgh is the main place. In Glasgow you also have Park Circus which has computerised access or you could order the certificates if you know all of the details

http://www.gro-scotland.gov.uk/famrec/index.html
http://www.gro-scotland.gov.uk/contacts/opentime/index.html
http://www.glasgow.gov.uk/en/Residents/BirthDeathMarriage_Citizenship/GenealogyCentre/
Title: Re: Where can I gain access to/find birth records after 1905?
Post by: tisonlymoi on Thursday 02 November 06 21:38 GMT (UK)
Thanks for that info - much appreciated.

I'm in Newcastle so not sure how easy it will be for me to get up there but perhaps something for us to encorporate into next years holiday!

Thanks again!
Title: Re: Where can I gain access to/find birth records after 1905?
Post by: Clare Fowler on Sunday 05 November 06 16:50 GMT (UK)
Hi there,

Edinburgh is only about 1.5 hours from Newcastle by train, so is easily do-able in one day.  The GRO in Edinburgh is directly across the road from the main entrance to the train station - so you wouldn't have to go that far.  It would depend how much you had to look up if it was worth the travelling up for 1 day.

Cheers,
Clare
Title: Re: Where can I gain access to/find birth records after 1905?
Post by: ibi on Wednesday 10 January 07 17:11 GMT (UK)
A good number of the seats at NRH in Edinburgh can be booked in advance.  Best to phone GROS on 0131 334 0380 a couple of weeks in advance to secure an advance booking.  I seem to recall that all the seats at Park Circus in Glasgow can be reserved in advance.

A certain number of seats at NRH are always kept for sale on the day, and, in recent times, there's rarely been a problem getting such a seat, or even a 1/2 day seat, - these go on sale at 1:00 pm if there are any.  (Just for the next few weeks, however, be aware that there's a genealogy/family history research programme on BBC Radio Scotland at 12 noon on Sundays, which may spark a higher than normal level of interest, - BTW these programmes can be heard on the BBC www site for 7 days after transmission.)

Even when you are pre-booked it's always a good idea to be there no later than 08:45 am, so that you don't have to wait too long to be "processed" and get to your place and start searching !!, - you don't want to lose 10 or 15 mins  :o

ibi
Title: Re: Where can I gain access to/find birth records after 1905?
Post by: Ann Baker on Saturday 09 June 07 16:39 BST (UK)
Hi Tis

Another thing to be aware of. GROS closes at 4.30 sharp. If you do any prints on the day they come out downstairs where you go and pay for them (50p each). You have to allow time to get down there and pay BEFORE 4.30 cos they won't let you in a second after!

You won't be able to print copies of any birth certs after 1906, marriages after 1931 and deaths after 1956 tho you can see them on screen. You can order copies but they do cost - £13 each so take a notepad!

If you decide to go to Glasgow you will have to book. Is booked up weeks in advance so plan well ahead.

Good luck

Ann
Title: Re: Where can I gain access to/find birth records after 1905?
Post by: M.R. Dien on Saturday 28 July 07 11:10 BST (UK)
The latest minutes of the Scotland's People user group indicate that they are progressing work on the modern index which will become available online and hopefully soon.
Title: Re: Where can I gain access to/find birth records after 1905?
Post by: maidmarianoops on Friday 14 September 07 11:00 BST (UK)
hello got this info
family search by putting one of your names and just scotland
it will take up a bit of time but may help



Hugh Holloran
 Male
Birth 1920  Rutherglen LanarkScotland
died JUL 1984
Title: Re: Where can I gain access to/find birth records after 1905?
Post by: ibi on Friday 14 September 07 17:19 BST (UK)
The latest minutes of the Scotland's People user group indicate that they are progressing work on the modern index which will become available online and hopefully soon.

Correct !

And "anticipated" by the year end, but take that with a pinch of salt in the light of the history of anticipated completion dates from GROS.

In other words, some time in the hopefully not too distant future, the indexes only for the records beyond those currently available on www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk will be become available.

In terms of the current situation, that would mean as follows.......

Births
1855 - 1906 indexes and images
1907 - 2007 indexes (there are separate male and female indexes)

Marriages
1855 - 1931 indexes and images
1932 - 2007 indexes

Deaths
1855 - 1956 indexes and images
1957 - 2007 indexes

ibi



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Title: Re: Where can I gain access to/find birth records after 1905?
Post by: gaucho on Tuesday 22 January 08 22:13 GMT (UK)
SP now has birth and death indices on line. Marriages to follow. and they work!
John
Title: Re: Where can I gain access to/find birth records after 1905?
Post by: tidybooks on Tuesday 22 January 08 23:04 GMT (UK)
 Thanks Gaucho,

Great that they have arrived at last, but they are just an index, it is going to cost you £10 for a certificate. However this should help the folks abroad, although I can see a lot of wrong certificates being ordered.

I would have preferred a date rather than just a year. Still in the land of the blind........

Tom
Title: this one for Scottish Clare
Post by: ena36 on Wednesday 24 September 08 08:06 BST (UK)
Hello Scottish Clare, 
 looking down the list of people you are researching I noted TERRIS.
I too have a Terris from Fife.
Alexander Mackie TERRIS married my great aunt Helen FOTHERINGHAM. Their marriage certificate states he was from Kelty Beath and she was living at Kirkplace Clackmannan.
The marriage took place in Clackmannan on August 10 1894. 
His parents James, a miner and Jessie nee Mackie. 
I remember Auntie Nellie in Kelty, in a large house, Alex. might have been dead by then, in the 1940's.
The had one adopted son? or daughter? the story went she could not have children?
Any connection there with your Terris' Clare?
thanks Ena
Title: Re: Where can I gain access to/find birth records after 1905?
Post by: alan14578 on Thursday 09 July 09 20:56 BST (UK)
tis. None of the above entries mention the General Registrar of BMD in each town.I am not sure about England but you can make an appointment with your REGISTRAR in Scotland and for about £10 you can use him I think for an hour to search his GROS computer and get cheaper certs. My old relatives are in Wick and my local registrar in the Borders can come up with the results.Try you own registrar if not phone the nearest one Berwick/Jedburgh etc and speak to him ,they are all in the books or through the local authority.
Title: Re: Where can I gain access to/find birth records after 1905?
Post by: genealogist1 on Sunday 12 July 09 12:21 BST (UK)
Is there a "General Registrar of BMD" in Aberdeen?  Would it cover information for the whole of Aberdeenshire?  Do you get an unlimited number of searches in that hour?
Title: Re: Where can I gain access to/find birth records after 1905?
Post by: MonicaL on Sunday 12 July 09 17:38 BST (UK)
Hi genealogist1

Have a read through Jim's post here which provides a little bit more detail on these searches (includes a contact no. for Aberdeen) www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,369601.0.html

Monica  :)
Title: Re: Where can I gain access to/find birth records after 1905?
Post by: genealogist1 on Sunday 12 July 09 18:54 BST (UK)
Hi Monica.  Thank you for the link - the information will prove to be very useful!
Title: Re: Where can I gain access to/find birth records after 1908?
Post by: kirkmichael on Monday 13 July 09 16:17 BST (UK)
Just a note of caution.

An increasing number of local councils, who employ the staff who act as registrars for GROS in Edinburgh, are offering local research possibilities.

These range from the Park Circus model offered by Glasgow District council and others which are a 'mini' New Register House, i.e. you have your own search terminal, sometimes linking into the GROS/NRH DIGROS search system; through to other locations where the local registrar offers an assisted search, i.e. a staff member, working with you, carries out the searchs that you want.

At Park Circus the cost is £14/day.  Elsewhere, for assisted searches, the cost can be up to £30/hour.  In the latter case, especially if there are a number of lines to research so that the time required could be well over an hour, it makes sense, even if extra travel and accommodation expenses are involved, to give serious consideration to visiting the main research facility in Edinburgh, where the cost of a daily 'ticket' is now a paltry £10.  ;)

As regards the Park Circus facility in Glasgow, you need to book at least several weeks in advance as it is very popular; and advance booking is often also essential elsewhere.

Wullie