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Title: John ESPIN
Post by: j.t.l on Monday 30 October 06 13:31 GMT (UK)
Hi There
 Has anyone any information about John Espin of Horsington  around 1800-1837.In 1837 his son Richard was
married. At the moment i cannot get any further back.I would like his birth if possible
Thankyou John ::)
Title: Re: Espin
Post by: irret on Monday 30 October 06 14:12 GMT (UK)
http://www.familysearch.org
There is a birth for John Espin 1804 Barlings, Lincs
Christening: 18 May 1804
Barlings, Lincs
Death 15 Dec 1885
Barlings, Lincs
Spouse Elizabeth
Don't know if this information ties in with what you have?
Title: Re: John ESPIN
Post by: JillJ on Monday 30 October 06 20:07 GMT (UK)
The one Irret found was born in Barlings, and there are quite a few Espins in the 1851 census in that area.  Do you have any information that could narrow down his date of birth, i.e. you say his son Richard was married in 1837 - do you mean that was the year of the wedding or had he perhaps been married a few years?  Do you know the name of Richar'd mother?

Here are a couple with mention of Horsington.  Do they ring any bells?

In the 1851 Horsington Census (HO107/2107/188/9) there is a Thomas Espin, Master Shoemaker, age 46, born Fiskerton, and wife Elizabeth age 46.  Her place of birth looks like 'Bistor' but I would guess it is Boston. 

In the 1861 census there is a Richard Espin, also a shoemaker, age 45 and born in Washingborough, Lincoln, and wife Ann, age 46 born Horsington.  They have children Joseph 13, Richard 10, William 8 and George 5.

Jill
Title: Re: John ESPIN
Post by: j.t.l on Tuesday 31 October 06 16:36 GMT (UK)
Hi,
Richard Espin was born 1815 in Washingboro Lincs Married 1837. at Parish Church of Horsington Lincs to Ann Bowring. Richard died Nov 17 1897.
His Father John whom I am seeking may have been born abt1785-1900. I suppose John may have been born around this area, but Im not sure.
Thankyou for helping
John
Title: Re: John ESPIN
Post by: Geoff E on Tuesday 31 October 06 16:55 GMT (UK)
There was a John ESPIN buried at Washingborough 6 Dec 1849 aged 74, indicating a birth around 1775.

To eliminate one of the possibles from the IGI, I can tell you the one from Holton cum Beckering was buried there in 1822 age 47.  The Nettleham one seems to have died in infancy.
Title: Re: John ESPIN
Post by: JillJ on Tuesday 31 October 06 17:00 GMT (UK)
This looks like him:

1841 Census:  Washingborough, Lincoln, Lincs.   HO107/624/2/7/6
John Espin, 65, Born in county.
Frances Espin, 65, Born in County.

Jill
Title: Re: John ESPIN
Post by: JillJ on Tuesday 31 October 06 17:06 GMT (UK)
On the IGI is a John Espin who married Frances Roberts on 23 June 1803 at Stainton by Langworth, Lincoln.

Jill
Title: Re: John ESPIN
Post by: JillJ on Tuesday 31 October 06 17:12 GMT (UK)
And a little bit more:

IGI (Hugh Wallis) - Christenings at Washingborough.
Charlotte Espin - 1 March 1818.  Parents:  John Espin & Francis
Joseph Espin - 16 July 1820.  Parents:  John Espin & Frances
Richard Espin - 18 January 1817.  Parents:  John Espin & Francis

Jill
Title: Re: John ESPIN
Post by: Geoff E on Tuesday 31 October 06 17:32 GMT (UK)
On the IGI is a John Espin who married Frances Roberts on 23 June 1803 at Stainton by Langworth, Lincoln.

Jill

Very close to Sudbrooke where the other John ESPIN (on the IGI) was christened.

Frances was buried 21 April 1846 at age 70 W'boro, so can't check her birthplace in 1851 census.
Title: Re: John ESPIN
Post by: j.t.l on Wednesday 01 November 06 15:50 GMT (UK)
Hi Jill,
Thankyou for the research about John Espin born abt 1776.
I'm sure this is the right John Espin are you able to do a little more reseach for me.  e.g. archive details about birth or death. numbers etc; I hope that i am not asking too much of you.
Many many thanks
John















Title: Re: John ESPIN
Post by: Geoff E on Wednesday 01 November 06 16:10 GMT (UK)
All I'm able to add is the (possible) baptism on the IGI-

4 May 1777 Sudbrooke, John ESPIN son of Thomas and Alice.
Title: Re: John ESPIN
Post by: JillJ on Wednesday 01 November 06 16:16 GMT (UK)
Hi John

I would think the burials found by GeoffE are correct and I assume they took place at Washingborough Church (as opposed to the main Lincoln cemetery which is just down the road a couple of miles).  I'm afraid I've reached the limit of my resources other than the IGI which you can search yourself.  If you are not able to get to Lincolnshire Archives to search the Parish Registers yourself perhaps there is some kind soul who could help.  Hope so!

Jill
Title: Re: John ESPIN
Post by: Geoff E on Wednesday 01 November 06 17:20 GMT (UK)
The main Lincoln Cemetery didn't open until 1856.

The IGI seems to have several baptisms for children of John and Frances at Fiskerton before they  moved to Washingborough.  Fiskerton is 2 miles south of Sudbrooke and a mile downstream from Washingborough (but on the opposite side of the River Witham).
Title: Re: John ESPIN
Post by: j.t.l on Tuesday 10 April 07 14:59 BST (UK)
Hi Jill,
Thankyou for the research about John Espin born abt 1776.
I'm sure this is the right John Espin are you able to do a little more reseach for me.  e.g. archive details about birth or death. numbers etc; I hope that i am not asking too much of you.
Many many thanks
John






I have found William Lilley and also lots of other Lilleyor Lilly born at Helpston Lincs. Helpston (i believe comes under Peterboro for documents.) Peterboro tell me that none of the lilley`s born between 1770-1810 were baptised at St Botolphs Church Helpston. Does anyone out there know where they may have been baptised, maybe a non-conformist church such as methodist or the like. I need to know who Williams parents, his marr cert in 1817 in Etton told me nothing. It may seem that I am at a dead end. Please help
John








Title: Re: John ESPIN
Post by: ktjp on Thursday 03 May 07 08:47 BST (UK)
My husband is descended from Mary Espin - one of John and Frances' children b c 1810. She married a John South b c 1807 from Torksey. Their family grew up in Nettleham and Cherry Willingham. I have John's parents as Thomas Espin and Alice Holland and Frances Roberts' father as possibly William and her mother as Frances. Does anyone else agree??
Katie
Title: Re: John ESPIN
Post by: j.t.l on Thursday 03 May 07 18:48 BST (UK)
Hi Katie,
Does this ring a bell. My wifes`s an Espin and is a descendant of John Espin.Here are the descendants, John Espin b 1776 m Francis, they had a son Richard who m Ann Bowering. Who had a son William b 1852 who m. Mary Ann White both of Horncastle Linc's. They had a son Frederick Espin b 1884, who worked in Horncastle. He m. Rosemary Lamyman of Tattershall Linc's.
John
Title: Re: John ESPIN
Post by: ktjp on Friday 04 May 07 18:12 BST (UK)
I am descended from Mary Espin - Richard's sister. I've attached a descendant chart for you to have a look at. If you want to chat some more you can e-mail me on katiepeerless@hotmail.com
Regards
Katie
Title: Re: John ESPIN
Post by: Eilleen on Sunday 13 May 07 15:07 BST (UK)
Any interest to you who have Espin in your tree,
 In June 1894, 18 year old , Kate Espin, of 11, St Martin's street, Lincoln, formerly nursemaid for mr Page Dixon and his wife Ada Dixon , landlord of the Victoria Hotel, Pelham Street, Lincoln.  was being prosecuted for thieft of a pair of boots and 4 black dress skirts,
 (   looks to me like she took her uniform , when she left )         note at bottom, memorandum about the possibility of placing the accused in a penitant females home.
            hope you found that interesting.  from Eilleen.
Title: Re: John ESPIN
Post by: Tal on Sunday 13 January 08 14:23 GMT (UK)
J.t.l.                Rose Mary Lamyman, b.1884 dau of William Christopher Lamyman and Eliza, married Frederick Scott White Espin, a shunter, on 3rd Feb 1909 at Tattershall Thorpe.  Do you know where Rose and William lived after marriage and when and where she is buried please? Did they have children ?
Title: Re: John ESPIN
Post by: GeoffE on Sunday 13 January 08 14:35 GMT (UK)
J.t.l.                Rose Mary Lamyman, b.1884 dau of William Christopher Lamyman and Eliza, married Frederick Scott White Espin, a shunter, on 3rd Feb 1909 at Tattershall Thorpe.  Do you know where Rose and William lived after marriage and when and where she is buried please? Did they have children ?

Could this be a child of theirs?

Births Mar 1913
ESPIN William L    (mother nee LAMYMAN)    Rotherham    9c   1613

Title: Re: John ESPIN
Post by: Tal on Monday 14 January 08 16:11 GMT (UK)
Thank you GeoffE - yes, will add this William as their child.
Title: Re: John ESPIN
Post by: Bec03 on Wednesday 10 July 13 22:58 BST (UK)
Hi guys. I'm a descendent of the Espins and just starting out. Any help would be appreciated
Title: Re: John ESPIN
Post by: diddymiller on Monday 15 July 13 11:11 BST (UK)
My husbands Elkington family has an Espin link:

James Espin (b. 1789 Lincs d. 16/11/1845 Woodhall) = Mary Orwell (b1789 Fulletby d. 25/12/1856 Woodhall)
Children:
John 1807
William 1809
Elizabeth 1812 = Benjamin Elkington
James 1814
Mary 1819
Thomas 1821
George 1823
Ann & Francis 1826
Martha 1828

dates known all woodhall.

Diddy
Title: Re: John ESPIN
Post by: redrock on Wednesday 28 August 13 22:55 BST (UK)
Hello Bec03: I am a descendent of the Espins of Sudbrooke, Fiskerton, Washingborough, Horsington and Horncastle (Thomas, John (1775), Richard (1817), Richard Cornelius (1849) but there are other Espin branches in the Lincoln / Horncastle area that are not directly related - most notably the Barlings Espins. Although I can take my direct line back to 1775 there have been Espins in the Lincoln / Horncastle area since the 1600's or earlier. My suspicion is that they came to the area from Spain or the Spanish Netherlands but I have never found any facts or evidence to support that theory. It seems obvious though because Espin is a Spanish surname that actually means "Spain". I have  a reasonable amount of information about my direct line and all the branches of it  If this information is of interest to you and co-incides with your own branch please let me know.
Title: Re: John ESPIN
Post by: Glen in Tinsel Kni on Saturday 26 October 13 21:57 BST (UK)
Any interest to you who have Espin in your tree,
 In June 1894, 18 year old , Kate Espin, of 11, St Martin's street, Lincoln, formerly nursemaid for mr Page Dixon and his wife Ada Dixon , landlord of the Victoria Hotel, Pelham Street, Lincoln.  was being prosecuted for thieft of a pair of boots and 4 black dress skirts,
 (   looks to me like she took her uniform , when she left )         note at bottom, memorandum about the possibility of placing the accused in a penitant females home.
            hope you found that interesting.  from Eilleen.

Also from the census, Elizabeth Ann Coldron (nee Chambers) is a daughter of George Chambers and Sophia Espin 9Sophia being baptised at Barlings in 1801)

1881
Name:    Elizabeth Coldron
Age (Original):    53
Gender:    Female
Birth Year:    1828
Birthplace:    Barlings, Lincolnshire, England
Relationship to Head of Household:    Head
Marital Status:    Widow
Occupation:    Higgler
Address:    13 St Martins Row
Event Place:    Lincoln St Martin, Lincolnshire, England

Household   Gender   Age   Birthplace
Head    Elizabeth Coldron   F   53    Barlings, Lincolnshire, England
Son   George Coldron   M   21    Lincoln, Middlesex, England
Son   Walter Coldron   M   17    Lincoln, Middlesex, England
Nephew   Edward Chambers   M   17    Worksop, Nottinghamshire, England
Visitor   Eliza A Chambers   F   11    Lincoln, Middlesex, England

In the previous census Elizabeth and husband Joel Coldron were publicans of the White Horse, 13 Hungate.
Title: Re: John ESPIN
Post by: brownie190678 on Monday 10 February 14 15:46 GMT (UK)
My husbands Elkington family has an Espin link:

James Espin (b. 1789 Lincs d. 16/11/1845 Woodhall) = Mary Orwell (b1789 Fulletby d. 25/12/1856 Woodhall)
Children:
John 1807
William 1809
Elizabeth 1812 = Benjamin Elkington
James 1814
Mary 1819
Thomas 1821
George 1823
Ann & Francis 1826
Martha 1828

dates known all woodhall.

Diddy

My thoughts are that James and John are close relatives - brothers or, at most, close cousins. I too have traced my family back to James but he seems to be non existent before his marriage to Mary Orwell in 1805.

I've noted that James signed his mark an 'X' on his banns license, and he is of the Parish of Louth. Thomas Espin (James and Johns possible brother), came to Louth in 1790 as a Master of Mathematics at a school in the town. Which would place the family in Louth at the time of James' wedding to Mary.

James and Mary were married at Thimbleby (approx 15 miles from Louth).

Horsington and Thimbleby are close geographically, so, I know its a long shot, but they COULD all be related :)

Any help with connecting these families would be fantastic :)
Title: Re: John ESPIN
Post by: DonnerKirby on Wednesday 20 January 16 18:02 GMT (UK)
Hi
How are you progressing with your Espin research. I am descended from the Espins on my fathers side. The Thomas Espin you mention, Master of Mathmatics in Louth, is the son of Thomas Espin, farmer from Bullington. He is the one buried in the Priory Gardens in Louth. I have several times got mixed up with the Woodhall Espins and tried to find a connection with them but failed due to missing records. I was told the Espins came to Lincolnshire originally from Belgium via Holland as drainage engineers but as yet found no evidence of this. I realize this may be old news to you now as your post was nearly 2 years ago. Regards Paul
Title: Re: John ESPIN
Post by: diddymiller on Thursday 21 January 16 11:04 GMT (UK)
Hi, not looked at them for a bit but one thought  is it likely that James  (and john) were brothers to Thomas who seems to be highly  educated as a maths master when James could only sign his marriage lines with an x.


Diddy