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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Lincolnshire => Topic started by: j.t.l on Monday 30 October 06 13:31 GMT (UK)
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Hi There
Has anyone any information about John Espin of Horsington around 1800-1837.In 1837 his son Richard was
married. At the moment i cannot get any further back.I would like his birth if possible
Thankyou John ::)
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There is a birth for John Espin 1804 Barlings, Lincs
Christening: 18 May 1804
Barlings, Lincs
Death 15 Dec 1885
Barlings, Lincs
Spouse Elizabeth
Don't know if this information ties in with what you have?
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The one Irret found was born in Barlings, and there are quite a few Espins in the 1851 census in that area. Do you have any information that could narrow down his date of birth, i.e. you say his son Richard was married in 1837 - do you mean that was the year of the wedding or had he perhaps been married a few years? Do you know the name of Richar'd mother?
Here are a couple with mention of Horsington. Do they ring any bells?
In the 1851 Horsington Census (HO107/2107/188/9) there is a Thomas Espin, Master Shoemaker, age 46, born Fiskerton, and wife Elizabeth age 46. Her place of birth looks like 'Bistor' but I would guess it is Boston.
In the 1861 census there is a Richard Espin, also a shoemaker, age 45 and born in Washingborough, Lincoln, and wife Ann, age 46 born Horsington. They have children Joseph 13, Richard 10, William 8 and George 5.
Jill
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Hi,
Richard Espin was born 1815 in Washingboro Lincs Married 1837. at Parish Church of Horsington Lincs to Ann Bowring. Richard died Nov 17 1897.
His Father John whom I am seeking may have been born abt1785-1900. I suppose John may have been born around this area, but Im not sure.
Thankyou for helping
John
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There was a John ESPIN buried at Washingborough 6 Dec 1849 aged 74, indicating a birth around 1775.
To eliminate one of the possibles from the IGI, I can tell you the one from Holton cum Beckering was buried there in 1822 age 47. The Nettleham one seems to have died in infancy.
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This looks like him:
1841 Census: Washingborough, Lincoln, Lincs. HO107/624/2/7/6
John Espin, 65, Born in county.
Frances Espin, 65, Born in County.
Jill
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On the IGI is a John Espin who married Frances Roberts on 23 June 1803 at Stainton by Langworth, Lincoln.
Jill
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And a little bit more:
IGI (Hugh Wallis) - Christenings at Washingborough.
Charlotte Espin - 1 March 1818. Parents: John Espin & Francis
Joseph Espin - 16 July 1820. Parents: John Espin & Frances
Richard Espin - 18 January 1817. Parents: John Espin & Francis
Jill
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On the IGI is a John Espin who married Frances Roberts on 23 June 1803 at Stainton by Langworth, Lincoln.
Jill
Very close to Sudbrooke where the other John ESPIN (on the IGI) was christened.
Frances was buried 21 April 1846 at age 70 W'boro, so can't check her birthplace in 1851 census.
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Hi Jill,
Thankyou for the research about John Espin born abt 1776.
I'm sure this is the right John Espin are you able to do a little more reseach for me. e.g. archive details about birth or death. numbers etc; I hope that i am not asking too much of you.
Many many thanks
John
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All I'm able to add is the (possible) baptism on the IGI-
4 May 1777 Sudbrooke, John ESPIN son of Thomas and Alice.
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Hi John
I would think the burials found by GeoffE are correct and I assume they took place at Washingborough Church (as opposed to the main Lincoln cemetery which is just down the road a couple of miles). I'm afraid I've reached the limit of my resources other than the IGI which you can search yourself. If you are not able to get to Lincolnshire Archives to search the Parish Registers yourself perhaps there is some kind soul who could help. Hope so!
Jill
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The main Lincoln Cemetery didn't open until 1856.
The IGI seems to have several baptisms for children of John and Frances at Fiskerton before they moved to Washingborough. Fiskerton is 2 miles south of Sudbrooke and a mile downstream from Washingborough (but on the opposite side of the River Witham).
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Hi Jill,
Thankyou for the research about John Espin born abt 1776.
I'm sure this is the right John Espin are you able to do a little more reseach for me. e.g. archive details about birth or death. numbers etc; I hope that i am not asking too much of you.
Many many thanks
John
I have found William Lilley and also lots of other Lilleyor Lilly born at Helpston Lincs. Helpston (i believe comes under Peterboro for documents.) Peterboro tell me that none of the lilley`s born between 1770-1810 were baptised at St Botolphs Church Helpston. Does anyone out there know where they may have been baptised, maybe a non-conformist church such as methodist or the like. I need to know who Williams parents, his marr cert in 1817 in Etton told me nothing. It may seem that I am at a dead end. Please help
John
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My husband is descended from Mary Espin - one of John and Frances' children b c 1810. She married a John South b c 1807 from Torksey. Their family grew up in Nettleham and Cherry Willingham. I have John's parents as Thomas Espin and Alice Holland and Frances Roberts' father as possibly William and her mother as Frances. Does anyone else agree??
Katie
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Hi Katie,
Does this ring a bell. My wifes`s an Espin and is a descendant of John Espin.Here are the descendants, John Espin b 1776 m Francis, they had a son Richard who m Ann Bowering. Who had a son William b 1852 who m. Mary Ann White both of Horncastle Linc's. They had a son Frederick Espin b 1884, who worked in Horncastle. He m. Rosemary Lamyman of Tattershall Linc's.
John
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I am descended from Mary Espin - Richard's sister. I've attached a descendant chart for you to have a look at. If you want to chat some more you can e-mail me on katiepeerless@hotmail.com
Regards
Katie
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Any interest to you who have Espin in your tree,
In June 1894, 18 year old , Kate Espin, of 11, St Martin's street, Lincoln, formerly nursemaid for mr Page Dixon and his wife Ada Dixon , landlord of the Victoria Hotel, Pelham Street, Lincoln. was being prosecuted for thieft of a pair of boots and 4 black dress skirts,
( looks to me like she took her uniform , when she left ) note at bottom, memorandum about the possibility of placing the accused in a penitant females home.
hope you found that interesting. from Eilleen.
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J.t.l. Rose Mary Lamyman, b.1884 dau of William Christopher Lamyman and Eliza, married Frederick Scott White Espin, a shunter, on 3rd Feb 1909 at Tattershall Thorpe. Do you know where Rose and William lived after marriage and when and where she is buried please? Did they have children ?
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J.t.l. Rose Mary Lamyman, b.1884 dau of William Christopher Lamyman and Eliza, married Frederick Scott White Espin, a shunter, on 3rd Feb 1909 at Tattershall Thorpe. Do you know where Rose and William lived after marriage and when and where she is buried please? Did they have children ?
Could this be a child of theirs?
Births Mar 1913
ESPIN William L (mother nee LAMYMAN) Rotherham 9c 1613
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Thank you GeoffE - yes, will add this William as their child.
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Hi guys. I'm a descendent of the Espins and just starting out. Any help would be appreciated
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My husbands Elkington family has an Espin link:
James Espin (b. 1789 Lincs d. 16/11/1845 Woodhall) = Mary Orwell (b1789 Fulletby d. 25/12/1856 Woodhall)
Children:
John 1807
William 1809
Elizabeth 1812 = Benjamin Elkington
James 1814
Mary 1819
Thomas 1821
George 1823
Ann & Francis 1826
Martha 1828
dates known all woodhall.
Diddy
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Hello Bec03: I am a descendent of the Espins of Sudbrooke, Fiskerton, Washingborough, Horsington and Horncastle (Thomas, John (1775), Richard (1817), Richard Cornelius (1849) but there are other Espin branches in the Lincoln / Horncastle area that are not directly related - most notably the Barlings Espins. Although I can take my direct line back to 1775 there have been Espins in the Lincoln / Horncastle area since the 1600's or earlier. My suspicion is that they came to the area from Spain or the Spanish Netherlands but I have never found any facts or evidence to support that theory. It seems obvious though because Espin is a Spanish surname that actually means "Spain". I have a reasonable amount of information about my direct line and all the branches of it If this information is of interest to you and co-incides with your own branch please let me know.
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Any interest to you who have Espin in your tree,
In June 1894, 18 year old , Kate Espin, of 11, St Martin's street, Lincoln, formerly nursemaid for mr Page Dixon and his wife Ada Dixon , landlord of the Victoria Hotel, Pelham Street, Lincoln. was being prosecuted for thieft of a pair of boots and 4 black dress skirts,
( looks to me like she took her uniform , when she left ) note at bottom, memorandum about the possibility of placing the accused in a penitant females home.
hope you found that interesting. from Eilleen.
Also from the census, Elizabeth Ann Coldron (nee Chambers) is a daughter of George Chambers and Sophia Espin 9Sophia being baptised at Barlings in 1801)
1881
Name: Elizabeth Coldron
Age (Original): 53
Gender: Female
Birth Year: 1828
Birthplace: Barlings, Lincolnshire, England
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Marital Status: Widow
Occupation: Higgler
Address: 13 St Martins Row
Event Place: Lincoln St Martin, Lincolnshire, England
Household Gender Age Birthplace
Head Elizabeth Coldron F 53 Barlings, Lincolnshire, England
Son George Coldron M 21 Lincoln, Middlesex, England
Son Walter Coldron M 17 Lincoln, Middlesex, England
Nephew Edward Chambers M 17 Worksop, Nottinghamshire, England
Visitor Eliza A Chambers F 11 Lincoln, Middlesex, England
In the previous census Elizabeth and husband Joel Coldron were publicans of the White Horse, 13 Hungate.
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My husbands Elkington family has an Espin link:
James Espin (b. 1789 Lincs d. 16/11/1845 Woodhall) = Mary Orwell (b1789 Fulletby d. 25/12/1856 Woodhall)
Children:
John 1807
William 1809
Elizabeth 1812 = Benjamin Elkington
James 1814
Mary 1819
Thomas 1821
George 1823
Ann & Francis 1826
Martha 1828
dates known all woodhall.
Diddy
My thoughts are that James and John are close relatives - brothers or, at most, close cousins. I too have traced my family back to James but he seems to be non existent before his marriage to Mary Orwell in 1805.
I've noted that James signed his mark an 'X' on his banns license, and he is of the Parish of Louth. Thomas Espin (James and Johns possible brother), came to Louth in 1790 as a Master of Mathematics at a school in the town. Which would place the family in Louth at the time of James' wedding to Mary.
James and Mary were married at Thimbleby (approx 15 miles from Louth).
Horsington and Thimbleby are close geographically, so, I know its a long shot, but they COULD all be related :)
Any help with connecting these families would be fantastic :)
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Hi
How are you progressing with your Espin research. I am descended from the Espins on my fathers side. The Thomas Espin you mention, Master of Mathmatics in Louth, is the son of Thomas Espin, farmer from Bullington. He is the one buried in the Priory Gardens in Louth. I have several times got mixed up with the Woodhall Espins and tried to find a connection with them but failed due to missing records. I was told the Espins came to Lincolnshire originally from Belgium via Holland as drainage engineers but as yet found no evidence of this. I realize this may be old news to you now as your post was nearly 2 years ago. Regards Paul
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Hi, not looked at them for a bit but one thought is it likely that James (and john) were brothers to Thomas who seems to be highly educated as a maths master when James could only sign his marriage lines with an x.
Diddy