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I am looking for Pepper Family and Mayer Family from turn of eighteenth century upto 1850's. I would be grateful for any information anybody has.
REgards
CAROLE
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I have two separate Mayer Families in my Tree,one from the Leek area following the Marriage of Joseph Mayer to a Mary Corbishley.The other one is the descendants of the Family of a Ralph Mayer born in Norton in c 1832.I would also be interested in any Pepper Family from the Burslem area.
Regards
William Russell Jones
Cefn Mawr
Wrexham.
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Dear William
I can't tell you if you're family and mine are connected yet as I am still trying to find out how I am related to the Mayers, the Joseph Mayer I am looking for was a bachelor however, but his parents had 11 children. I am interested in the fact that you come from Cefn Mawr which is were my paternal family came from mid 19th cen, which funnily enough are, I think, the ones related to the Mayers. If I find anymore re Peppers I will let you know. :)
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You've got me interested about the family from Cefn Mawr!What was their name?
Regards
William Russell Jones
Cefn Mawr
Wrexham.
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I've some Longton Mayers
Ruth Mayer born 1796 marries Jervis Ridge
Then Mary Ann Pepper born 1868 from Longton marries William Ridge Jervis's grandson.
William's father is Richard Ridge born 1832 from Longton who marries Hannah Lovatt.
I also have Fenton Corbishley's as direct ancestors
Jane
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Dear William
My Meredith family come from Cefn Mawr. I am at work at the moment so can't be precise but when I get home I will give you more details but they also have links to Stoke on Trent through marriage to the Hupton Family. I will contact later.
Regards
CAROLE
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Hello William, just looking at the old family and Merediths lived in Hill st 1871, King St 1881, Well St 1891 all in Cefyn Mawr of course and the village of Glenrid also 1871 (his father) and way back in 1841 I have his father in Ifton Rhyn, I don't know if that means anything to you but I would be grateful if you could let me know if the streets are still there and what the area was like back then. I am from Lancashire by the way. The whole family were in Lancashire by 1891, for the pits I assume.
I've some Longton Mayers
Ruth Mayer born 1796 marries Jervis Ridge
Then Mary Ann Pepper born 1868 from Longton marries William Ridge Jervis's grandson.
William's father is Richard Ridge born 1832 from Longton who marries Hannah Lovatt.
I also have Fenton Corbishley's as direct ancestors
Jane
Thanks Jane the names don't ring a bell but you nver know I will keep looking, thank you.
Regards
CAROLE
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Yes your Meredith Family were indeed from the Shropshire area.I'm afraid I am not able to give a first hand account of what the area was like in those days!However I can confirm all three streets are still in being,in fact I walked up Hill St to get to a shop on Well St tonight.If you are interested in what life was like in Cefn Mawr in the old days,you should see my thread on the Denbighshire forum at;
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,187906.0.html
Regards
William Russell Jones
Cefn Mawr
Wrexham.
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Oh dear William, it sounds as though I was suggesting you were old enough to remember :-[ Sorry about that, I shall look on your thread with interest, I am very interested to know how my ancestors may have lived, it puts skin on bones.
Regards
CAROLE
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Just had a quick look on the website William and it looks fascinating, I shall have a look at all the photos when I get home, if it's anything like the town I live in I would imagine it hasn't changed much from these photos. :)
Regards
CAROLE
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As with all places perhaps,it has changed quite considerably Carole,whether for the better is very much open to debate!
Regards
William Russell Jones
Cefn Mawr
Wrexham.
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I am looking for Pepper Family and Mayer Family from turn of eighteenth century upto 1850's. I would be grateful for any information anybody has.
REgards
CAROLE
Hi, all my Peppers are in Keele at that time, moved to Newcastle-u-Lyme about 1850's :)
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My GG Grandfather John Pepper, Married Anne Mayer (from Burslem) in 1838
Any Good?
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Hi,
Am also researching this family.
Joseph Mayer of Liverpool came from Newcastle, mother Pepper.
Went to Pennant Hall on the Wirral where he lived. Got copy of his family tree somewhere.
Have been trying to tie this family up with Eljah Mayer the potter. Joseph's brothers took over Dale hall pottery when Elijah died. There must be a connection.Can anyone help?
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I am looking for a MAYER family originating probably in Hanley, Staffordshire, that included:
1. Catherine MAYER, born c1779, married 1808 London to Matthias Dupont KING (1782-1830), wine merchant, died 1846 St John's Wood, Middlesex, aged 66; (their first son was baptised at Hanley);
2. Martha MAYER, married 1813 Bloomsbury, Middlesex, to Edward KING (1790-1822), merchant (1st cousin to Matthias Dupont KING);
3. Frances MAYER, born c1793, married 1820 Bloomsbury, Middlesex, to Samuel Edward Peacock HALE (1790-1851), oilman, died 1831 St Mildred Poultry, London, aged 36;
4. Joseph MAYER, whose will or intestacy was subject to a suit in the Court of Chancery c1865;
5. Elijah MAYER or Alice MAYER, who married each other in 1806 at Stoke-on-Trent (witnessed by Thomas MAYER + Mary MAYER).
I have connected these by deduction as follows:
1+2: Catherine's and Martha's husband were 1st cousins;
1+3: Catherine's husband was a witness at Frances' wedding;
1+4: Catherine's son received £1,000 as a result of the Chancery suit re Joseph;
2+5: Frances' granddaughter married Elijah and Alice's grandson;
2+3: Martha's granddaughter and Frances' grandson married a brother and sister.
I am anxious to make contact with other researchers who might be interested in the same family.
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Hello
I also have the Mayer family in my tree - Joseph Mayer and Mary Corbishley's son George (born 1834)was my gggrandfather.
Crystal
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George married Ellen Jenkinson,they are in my Tree.Mary Corbishley's parents were Joseph Corbishley(1776) and Mary Williams(1779).This Joseph was the son of a Joseph Corbishley(1754) and a Mary Lovat(1750).Mary Lovatt is part of my Lovatt family.
Regards
William Russell Jones.
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Hi William
That's right, I have George and Ellen's marriage details, children etc. My line comes down from their daughter - Clara Matilda. Thanks for Joseph and Mary parents details, I did not have them as I had not yet got any further back than Joseph and Mary. I have seen the Lovatt name somewhere in my researching but can't just remember where, I must have a look through my notes.
Better say nite as I have work in the morning, will check back tomorrow.
Crystal
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I'll send a PM containing access details to my family Tree webpage.
Regards
William Russell Jones.
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Hi all,
I too have the Mayer Corbishley Connection. I also have Mayer's from Audley/Scot Hay on my tree.
Peter
http://wainwrights.familytreeguide.com/tree_index.php
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I am looking for Pepper Family and Mayer Family from turn of eighteenth century upto 1850's. I would be grateful for any information anybody has.
REgards
CAROLE
hi i have an ann mayer who married john pepper on 2nd july 1838 at wolstanton in my family tree which makes them my great,great,great granparents,are they related to you by any chance,kind regards sharon
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Hello Sharon
Yes I think they are. The Peppers are related to my Hupton family who have some connection to Mayer. I have been looking for a connection for ages (years in fact). Let me consult my tree. Please, please don't let me lose you in the eather now I have found a connection. I have been asking for ages. I shall send you a PM if you don't mind when I have consulted my tree.
Carole ;D
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hi carole just read your message,did you have a look at your tree? is the information i gave you useful? kind regards sharon
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Hi Sharon
Good to hear from you. I am afraid I got over excited :D I can't find the connection now but I know there is one. Attached to your family are there any connections to Cope? My Cope family (who married into Hupton) were related to the Mayers. Now I know their mother was called Pepper. As you can see from this thread and another on this site, the Mayer family is very convoluted. In the 50s my Mum & Dad went to Staffordshire re Joseph Mayer's will, but I cannot find any info about this, sadly all dead now.
Carole :)
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hi carole, my grandad herbert pepper,after reading the local stoke on trent newspaper along time ago,not sure of date,attended the town hall on the date stated as they were asking for descendants of ann mayer - apparently it was headlines in the paper as Mayers Millions?? is this the same connection?
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Hi
It could very well be. This has always been a family myth and unfortunately when I was younger I didn't listen (not interested) but now I have got older and have started to look into my family history it's too late. No-one left to ask. I do know the relationship is my Dad who was Hupton and the only name I can link to the area is Cope, I think! It's very frustrating that I just can't find this one connection. Today I have sent for an ancestors birth cert to find a maiden name and start from there. But I am confused over Joseph Mayer (the one with millions) I think there may be 2 or there may only be one. I do know though his mother was a Pepper.
Carole
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hi carole,my tree seems to be different than yours then, as on my tree john pepper married ann mayer,he had a brother joseph,don't know who ann's dad was.they went on to have an only son john who married charlotte shuker and they too had an only child named herbert who was my great grandfather - if you think you may have it wrong you could look into who ann mayers father was that is on my tree that married john 2nd july 1838 wolstanton x
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Hi Sharon
I will keep looking and one day I may get lucky ;)
Carole
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hi carole,ive spoke with my uncle who has researched the family tree for 50yrs plus and he has give me info that will interest you-have you got joseph mayer in yr tree? x
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Hello
Yes I have, I just can't find where he fits in with my family. I have a letter sent from my aunt years ago telling me his line were cousins to my line. The only lines I can find which correspond to the same area where he came from ie Staffs are Cope, Bainbridge, Johnson, Cooper and also various others that married into them.
Carole :)
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Hello Steconkei
I think I have found it. William Cope married Sarah Mayer. Their daughter (Elizabeth) married Abel Mayer & Joseph Smith. Now, I am related to the Copes and I think that William was my ancestor's brother. That I will have to check. Does that sound anything like the Mayer family tree or any names familiar?
(I would like to acknowledge Beckey for giving me the information)
Carole
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My grans mum was Alice Mellor Dean who`s grand father was George W Mayer. Around I guess the 1920s my gran remembers some men coming to the house with something to do with the Mayers Millions. Because Alice was born out of marriage she threw the legal papers on the fire and told the men to leave. Its still has us all puzzled to this day. I think it might have something to do with Joseph Mayer as George might of been related
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George W Mayer had a sister Ann mayer,but Ann died in infancy. George and Elizabeth ( Mellor )can be seen with Alice Dean Mellor in the1901 census
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First of all,a very warm welcome to Rootschat.
Which Joseph Mayer are you looking at with regards to a possible link with your George W Mayer?From a brief look at Census entries it is unclear?
Regards
William Russell Jones.
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Thank you for your welcome, my grandma was Bessie Deaville and sadly died a few years ago but left some written details of the family. Her mum was Alice Deane ( on the 1901 census you can see her as Alice Dean Mellor ), there is a transcript error on Ancestry ( Alice Dean Melton ). Alice was born just before her mum married John dean and for some reason was raised by her grand parents George W Mayer and Betty (Elizabeth ) Mellor. Alice`s mum was Margaret Elizabeth Mellor ( the birth cert for her shows no father again ).
When my gran was a young girl she remembers some official men coming to the house with something to do with the Mayer fortunes, this I think was around the 1920s. Alice burnt the papers they had on the fire and told them to leave. It might of had something to do with her being born illegitimately. There might also of been a connection with George W Mayer passing away at the same time.
The first contact of the mayer connection which led me to finding Alice on Ancestry was a John mayer staying over as a relative to Elizabeth's father Solomon Mellor. I`ve linked up with others on Ancestry for the other family members .
There is an Ann Mayer as George`s Sister, but from the information gained from others she dies in infancy.
If you can help me with the family tale or any other information I would be very grateful as i`ve being searching for some time into the Mayer`s Millions.
Regards mark and Julie
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I'm struggling to see how Alice could show as a Grandchild of George W and Bessie Mayer unless a Mayer was the father?I'm also struggling to find how the Dean come into all this?I take it Solomon Mellor was the son of the Solomon Mellor that shows born in c 1798?
Regards
William Russell Jones.
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Would you like me to split this new query off the old thread and transfer it to the "active" board?
It seems to be a different Mayer branch unless I'm reading it wrong?
Rambler
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As far as I can see, Alice is not related by blood to the Mayer family?
Solomon MELLOR (c1898) and his wife Margaret BERRISFORD had a daughter Elizabeth (Betty) in about 1842.
Betty had an illegitimate daughter Margaret Elizabeth MELLOR, born in 1868.
Betty then married Charles PLANT in 1872, and after his death married George Woolliscroft MAYER (a widower) in 1882.
Margaret had an illegitimate daughter Alice Dean MELLOR in 1892, just before marrying John DEAN.
Alice is listed as George MAYER's grandaughter in 1901, but she is (strictly speaking) his wife's grandaughter, and not his.
A John MAYER born c1878 is listed as a "relative" of Solomon MELLOR in 1891. George had a son John from his first marriage born c1878, so it could be him, although he is really no blood relation to Solomon.
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My Great Grandfather Thomas Mayer married Emily Pepper they lived in Smallthorne, Emily died in 1910, Thomas died 1915
I have both of their photos