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General => The Common Room => Topic started by: csh on Friday 27 October 06 17:24 BST (UK)
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I have been searching Ancestry's BMD researching deaths registration. My GT GT Grandfather is all of 185 years old now as I cant find any trace of his death. So I had another go on a name and date of another person who I knew what year he was born and the year he died. No trace.
What am I doing wrong? I dont want to buy certificates as its only tying up ends and would anyone be able to find the dates if I cant.
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Nothing! Ancestry is not complete. Try FreeBMD, as a start (though also incomplete). There are other (pay to view) options, too.
meles
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Hi csh :)
How have you searched? Only the indexed database, or have you viewed the actual images of deaths quarter by quarter and year by year?
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Give us the name and I'll have a look!
Remeber as Tati says, to look through the COMPLETE indexes quarter by quarter, rather than the partial ones on the database.
ANd also remember that ANcestry's indexing leaves a lot to be desired. Always remember you are looking for an alphabetical list, so there will always be a page where the name you are looking for will be alphabetically (unless very rarely by chance it does occur exactly at a page break), so dont believe it when it comes back with an apparent 'missing' quarter or 'no match'
The best way to get round this is to try a name nearby yours in the alphabet, and then use the green arrows at the top of the sheet to move to the correct page.
But I will willingly have a look for you. Or if you want me to find the one that you are definite about then tell me that one, and maybe I can find where the hitch is!!!!
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Thanks for your replies. I will have a look at Free BMD and see what comes up. I have been going to the alphabetical indexes and quarters. I will keep looking.
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FreeBMD and ancestry lists are the same as thats where ancestry get it from.
Ancestry do have the complete images whereas freeBMD don't.
Kev.
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And another REALLY clever thing that Ancestry has done... ???
When indexing the pages they have put the first name on a page correctly (...well most of the time) but if there is a handwritten addition to the listing at the bottom of the page then they treat that addition as the last name on the page.
Peter
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I went onto Free BMD earlier. No joy. I now throw this open to anyone that can help.
John Goss Born Brompton Regis, Somerset in 1821.
I tried with another James Wensley, born 1831 died 1921 again all in Somerset, but he lived all his life within Harford Village and thereabouts, and although there are deaths of James Wensley in Wellington and another (memory gone) the ages are wrong. This is correct as it printed in a book written by his grandson. I have tried 1920 and 1922. Nothing.
Regards and best wishes
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I have found a John Goss born about 1822 died 1907 in Willinton, Somerset. Would that be him by any chance?
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Sorry, that town should read Williton, Somerset.
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That's the only suitable one I could find too, John Goss aged 85 2nd Quarter Williton 5c 180
on www.genuki.org if you enter Brompton Regis in the search engine, there's a link to parish transcriptions for B. Regis, found a baptism for John Goss 8th July 1821 parents Robert & Martha
Barbara
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Nothing! Ancestry is not complete.
Ancestry does have the complete index images 1837-1983.
Hi Barbara - I have found folks in books written by other family members who are not documented correctly. If you do not have a source given for the information, you cannot assume it is correct - which is the reason for searching the indexes in the first place. Thus said, there are also known to be many errors in the indexes.
My understanding from other postings on RC (being in Australia, I have no first hand knowledge), the local registry offices may find folks who can't be found in the GRO indexes.
Have you found either of the folks on the 1901 census? This may assist to verify their ages.
Trish
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Ancestry does have the complete index images 1837-1983.
Unless they've made recent additions, I'm afraid they don't. I know for a fact some of the Gs for the mid 1920s were missing...they claimed they were there, but they had missed pages out (it jumped from page 24 to 27 [or something like that], for example...completely misisng out my surname).
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I stand corrected - I had forgotten some pages had been said to be missing by other Rc folks. Despite the bad indexing, I haven't come across any missing pages as yet.
Trish
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Twice this week I've found the people I'm looking for, clicked on the '.' to find completely the wrong folio so unable to view the right family, tried scrolling through other districts to find the right folio without success and takes too long. This was for 1901, could pay I suppose to see the image on www.1901census but I have this so-called 'deluxe' subscription to ancestry and don't feel like paying more to another site, so it's very annoying - needless to say I emailed them about it but so far no reply - am I surprised?? ::)
Barbara
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Thanks to all who are trying to help me. I dont think the John Goss who died at Williton is the same one, I will keep an open mind until I can find my street map of Somerset. They didnt travel far and I havent got any connections to Williton but you never know.
Half the fun of finding relatives is the searching and the eureka moment.
Regards and many thanks
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Keep an open mind, csh! Never 'assume' what ancestors did, always find the facts!
The John Goss that has been found looks a very likely candidate. Unless there were any other John Goss's around of the same age he MUST be the one!!
(where was your John Goss in 1901 census?are there any Goss rellies in Williton in 1901?)
Same with the Wensley - dont assume because his grandson said he died in 1921 that he did, unless grandson has the death cert to prove it. Grandson may not have been alive then and is probably relying on the memory of another relly. So - keep looking!
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John Goss was living with his brother Robert Goss in Brompton Regis in the 1901 census.
I tried the variation of Goss which is Goff but nothing yet.
I will do a check of Williton next but none is there to my knowledge.
Regards and many thanks
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is there a possibility that there was a hospsital in Wiliton, and that was where he was when he died?
Worth checking out similar institutions perhaps.
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Well done Panonnia
I think there is a hospital in Williton, probably a cottage hospital. I am looking into this line further.
Many thanks and kind regards
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PS I am taking all onboard what everyone has told me, now can anyone tell me where I've put my Certificate of Motor Insurance for my car? (only kidding) Not really I have 'put it in a safe place'
Many thanks and kind regards