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Title: 1851 census lookup please - Hinckley
Post by: maggiefishblue on Monday 23 October 06 10:09 BST (UK)
Hi,

Could someone look up this family for me on the 1851 census please? Someone kindly found them on the index for me but I would like information re: occupation, place of birth etc.

Cox's Alley, Hinckley

William LEESON c1818
Hannah (wife) c1818
John (c1839)
Elizabeth c1841
Maria c1843
Sarah c1845
Emma c1847
Eliza c1847

Bond Street, Hinckley

William LEESON c1787
Elizabeth (wife) c1791

I'm not sure whether the next family will be on the census - they didn't appear on the index I was given:

Henry LEESON c1813
Mary (wife) c1816
Mary Ann c1851

Thanks in anticipation,
Maggie  :)
Title: Re: 1851 census lookup please - Hinckley
Post by: Tati on Monday 23 October 06 10:19 BST (UK)
Hi Maggie,

Cox's Alley, Hinckley (I think the address is Cox's Abbey)

William LEESON c1818 - Stocking Maker Cotton
Hannah (wife) c1818 - Seamer of Stockings
John (c1839) - Stocking Maker Cotton
Elizabeth c1841 - do.
Maria c1843 - Seamer of Stockings
Sarah c1845 - Scholar
Emma c1847 - scholar
Eliza c1847

All born Hinckley

****

Bond Street, Hinckley

William LEESON c1787 - Ag  Lab - b. Warwick Hilmorton
Elizabeth (wife) c1791 - Charwoman - b. Warwick Arboro

Title: Re: 1851 census lookup please - Hinckley
Post by: maggiefishblue on Monday 23 October 06 11:04 BST (UK)
Hi Tati,

Thank you very much - just what I needed  :)

Maggie
Title: Re: 1851 census lookup please - Hinckley
Post by: Tati on Monday 23 October 06 11:11 BST (UK)
I just can't see Henry & Mary  :-\

There's a family with same names, same ages at Leicester St Margaret but I had to rule them out - they are still around later  :P
Title: Re: 1851 census lookup please - Hinckley
Post by: maggiefishblue on Monday 23 October 06 11:55 BST (UK)
Thanks again Tati,

I've now been able to find loads of Leesons in Hillmorton Warwickshire Parish Records following on from William Leeson's birthplace which you found.  Could you just double check the birthplace for Elizabeth please?  I can't find anywhere called Arboro on my map - I suppose it could be a tiny hamlet  ::)

Henry Leeson is proving elusive  :-\ I have him on the 1871, 1881 and 1891 but can't find him on others!!

Thanks again for your help - it's much appreciated.

Maggie
Title: Re: 1851 census lookup please - Hinckley
Post by: Tati on Monday 23 October 06 12:03 BST (UK)
I can see Henry in 1861 at Hinckley:
RG9/2260 90 15
Hinckley - Tan Yard

Henry Leeson, head, 48, Ag lab
Mary, wife, 44, Seamer
Mary Ann, dau, 10, scholar
Henry, son, 7
Walter, son, 3
Emma dau, 7 mo

All born Hinckley

I'm afraid the 1851 does say Arboro' for Elizabeth...
 
Title: Re: 1851 census lookup please - Hinckley
Post by: maggiefishblue on Monday 23 October 06 13:44 BST (UK)
Wow, Tati - thanks for finding Henry on the 1861 for me I didn't think he was there and thanks for looking at the place name again.  I shall investigate the place name further later  :)

Thanks again for all of your help Tati - it's much appreciated  :)

Maggie
Title: Re: 1851 census lookup please - Hinckley
Post by: maggiefishblue on Tuesday 24 October 06 16:29 BST (UK)
Hi Tati,

Just thought you might like to know that I think the name of that place might be Harbury in Warwickshire  :)  I have come to this conclusion through deduction - trying to think of places which sound similar - I then looked at the Parish Records and found some Knibbs living in Harbury - Knibbs was the maiden name of Elizabeth Leeson  :)  I couldn't find an Elizabeth Knibbs' baptism but I think I might be on the right track  ;)  I'm reckoning that Harbury might sound like Arboro' when said in a 19th century Warwickshire accent  ;D  But there again I might be completely on the wrong track - that's been known ... several times in fact  :-[

Maggie
Title: Re: 1851 census lookup please - Hinckley
Post by: Stumped! on Tuesday 24 October 06 17:01 BST (UK)
Just to add to your confusion
There's Narborough
and Market Harborough as well.
Peter
Title: Re: 1851 census lookup please - Hinckley
Post by: maggiefishblue on Wednesday 25 October 06 09:35 BST (UK)
Thanks for that Peter  ::) :-\ :'(

Title: Re: 1851 census lookup please - Hinckley
Post by: Mike from Leicester on Wednesday 25 October 06 13:38 BST (UK)
Greeting's Again Maggie.....

There is a HARBOURNE (part of Birmingham South)
which is in Warwickshire.....
Narborough & Market Harborough are defiantly in Leicestershire.

MIKE. 
Title: Re: 1851 census lookup please - Hinckley
Post by: maggiefishblue on Sunday 29 October 06 14:34 GMT (UK)
Hi Mike,

Sorry it's taken me so long to reply - thanks for the information. 

I think that Harbury might be the right one - I have found Knibbs there - but I have made a note of Harbourne too ... just in case  ;D  These Leesons seem to get everywhere  ::)

Maggie  :)
Title: Re: 1851 census lookup please - Hinckley
Post by: KNIBBetc on Tuesday 13 March 07 15:02 GMT (UK)
I note with interest that Maggie says KNIBBS was Elizabeth LEESON's maiden name.  I'd love to have details of the wedding or whatever and will then look for her baptism.

Alan Jackson
Host at The K/NIBB/S One Name Study website and mailing list
Title: Re: 1851 census lookup please - Hinckley
Post by: maggiefishblue on Tuesday 13 March 07 17:10 GMT (UK)
Hi Alan,

The marriage I have for Elizabeth KNIBBS is:

William LEESON married Elizabeth KNIBBS at St Mary's Church, Hinckley, Leicestershire on October 12 1814.

I have not been able to find very much information on Elizabeth except that I think she might have been born in 1796 in Warwickshire - Harbury I think ....  :)

I would be very interested in any information you have on the Knibbs family - I have very little at the moment.  I have loads on the Leesons though if that is of any interest to you.

Maggie  :)
Title: Re: 1851 census lookup please - Hinckley
Post by: Kevwood on Tuesday 13 March 07 17:16 GMT (UK)
Hi Maggie, wondered if it could be ATTLEBOROUGH which is part of Nuneaton, just down the road from Hinckley. If fact i am playing football there later!!

Kev. ;D
Title: Re: 1851 census lookup please - Hinckley
Post by: maggiefishblue on Tuesday 13 March 07 17:21 GMT (UK)
Hi Kev,

It reads Harbury - but you never know do you?

I do have some rellies in Attleborough but they are in a different line  ;D 

Maggie  :)

PS Enjoy your match  ;)
Title: Re: 1851 census lookup please - Hinckley
Post by: KNIBBetc on Tuesday 13 March 07 17:33 GMT (UK)
Re the 1814 marriage, I see she is given as NIBB in the IGI.

The search continues.

Alan
Title: Re: 1851 census lookup please - Hinckley
Post by: Kevwood on Tuesday 13 March 07 17:36 GMT (UK)
Maggie do you have Henry in 1841: at Bond Street, Hinckley

Henry Leeson 1816 Ag Lab Leicestershire
Mary Leeson 1821 Leicestershire

Priscilla Leeson 1840 Leicestershire

Kev. ;D
Title: Re: 1851 census lookup please - Hinckley
Post by: KNIBBetc on Tuesday 13 March 07 22:02 GMT (UK)
OK folks, do you buy this?

The K/NIBBs in Harbury date from earlier times.

An Elizabeth KNIB was baptised at Newbold Avon on 15 Jul 1792 to William KNIBB & Mary nee PEGG.  To the north is Harborough Magna, not that far from Hilmorton.  I had no trace of that Elizabeth until now.  Her brother James was at Lutterworth in later years.  Sister Sarah still unaccounted.

Alan

Alan Jackson
Host at The K/NIBB/S One Name Study website and mailing list
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~knibbetc/
Title: Re: 1851 census lookup please - Hinckley
Post by: maggiefishblue on Wednesday 14 March 07 08:30 GMT (UK)
Kev, I do have that Henry and Mary Leeson in 1841 but thanks for that anyway  ;)  Henry and Mary were my gggrandparents  :)

Alan, thanks for the information, I didn't know about the Elizabeth KNIB from Newbold Avon - so are you saying that she is more likely to be my Elizabeth?  I was unsure about the Harbury one but that was the only one I could find on the IGI who was born near to the date I assumed my Elizabeth would have been.

Do you have anymore info. on the Newbold Avon Knibbs please?

Maggie  :)

Title: Re: 1851 census lookup please - Hinckley
Post by: KNIBBetc on Wednesday 14 March 07 12:17 GMT (UK)
 
Do you have anymore info. on the Newbold Avon Knibbs please?
 :)



This is what I have put together.  I found William as LEASON, a widower, on the 1861 census at ancestry and hence conjectured death dates of his wife and himself.  First a listing then a family group - I haven't 'placed' William at the head of the tree:

EXTRACTS FROM K/NIBB/S DATABASE - 14 Mar 2007
E&OE

William KNIBB bef1776
  = (25Apr1791) Mary PEGG bef1776
   |__Elizabeth KNIB c1791 -  2Qtr1861
   |    = (12Oct1814) William LEESON c1786 -  4Qtr1865
   |__Sarah NIBB c1795
   |__James KNIBB c1799 -  1Qtr1865
        = (bef1820) Mary ROBINSON c1796 - Jun1848
         |__James KNIBBS c1819 - Jan1819
         |__Ann NIBBS c1822
         |    = (16Oct1839) Thomas BUSBY c1815 -  3Feb1891
         |__John KNIBBS c1823 - Nov1827
         |__George KNIBBS c1826 - Mar1842
         |__Samuel KNIBBS c1827 -  3Qtr1874
         |    = (14Dec1853) Jane WARDLE c1830 - Aug1890
         |     |__Sarah Jane KNIBBS  29Oct1854
         |     |    = ( 4Qtr1881)  UNKNOWN bef1865
         |     |__Frank KNIBBS  25May1856
         |     |__Jessie KNIBBS  24Mar1859
         |     |    = ( 1Qtr1883) William BRETT c1861
         |     |__Charlotte KNIBBS   2Qtr1861
         |     |    = ( 1Qtr1883)  UNKNOWN bef1867
         |     |__Frederick KNIBBS   3Qtr1864 -  4Qtr1920
         |     |    =  UNKNOWN 
         |     |__Eliza Annie KNIBBS   3Qtr1866 -  1Qtr1905
         |__George KNIBBS c1827 - bef1832
         |__Elizabeth KNIBBS c1828 - cAug1829
         |__Thomas KNIBBS c1832 - a1851
         |__Sarah KNIBBS  1834 - May1838
         |__Deborah NIBBS c1837
         |__Robert KNIBBS   4Qtr1840 - Jan1870
              = ( 1Qtr1865)  UNKNOWN bef1849


William KNIBB
  Born        bef1776     
       
  Married     25Apr1791 Newbold On Avon

Mary PEGG
  Born        bef1776     
 
Children
~~~~~~~~

Elizabeth KNIB
  Born        c1791     Harborough (Magna?)
  Baptised    15Jul1792 Newbold Avon
  Died        2Qtr1861  Hinckley District - conjecture her
  Buried               
  Occupation            Charwoman  Hinckley 1851 as b Arboro'
  Spouse                William LEESON

Sarah NIBB
  Born        c1795     
  Baptised    21Oct1795 Newbold On Avon, Warwick, England
  Died                 
  Buried               
  Occupation         ?? m BODDINGTON and at Newbold Avon 1851 ??

James KNIBB
  Born        c1799     Newbold on Avon  Warwicks
  Baptised    22Jun1799 Newbold on Avon as NIBB
  Died        1Qtr1865  Lutterworth District
  Buried               
  Occupation            Stockinger Dickson's Court  1847 as KNIBBS
  Spouse                Mary ROBINSON
     
        Apprenticed Framework Knitter 1808  aged 8 to Nathaniel USHER
        per Warwicks Poor Law Index
        As RIBBS 1851 at ancestry Framework knitter


Alan

Alan Jackson
Host at The K/NIBB/S One Name Study website and mailing list
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~knibbetc/
Title: Re: 1851 census lookup please - Hinckley
Post by: maggiefishblue on Wednesday 14 March 07 16:46 GMT (UK)
Hi Alan,

I wasn't expecting all of this - thank you so much  :)  I now have another family to investigate  ;D

I have had a look at your website and am very impressed.  I'll have another look once I have digested the info. here.

Kind regards,
Maggie