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I am trying to find James Quarm and family in 1891 and 1901.
James Quarm was born Plymouth 1843/44. He married Emily Sanders in 1867 in Biggleswade and in 1871 and 1881 they were living in Burton on Trent. His occupation was a cooper.
I believe that James may have returned to Plymouth in the 1880's. All of his children have turned up in this area in 1891 or 1901. His son ,Walter, married Elizabeth Amelia Plimsoll in Plymouth in 1888 and was living there with his family in 1891 and 1901. James' daughter Caroline may have married in Plymouth in 1898. Three other sons, James Owen Quarm, Charles Quarm and Frederick Quarm joined the navy and were in ships off Plymouth 1891/1901.
There is a death record for a James Henry Quarm 1903 Plymouth and for an Emily Quarm 1908 Plymouth.
Trying to find James and Emily in 1891 and 1901 with no luck! Hope someone can help
Julie
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Here they are in 1891 — I can't look up 1901 sorry.
1891 census 77, Clare Buildings, Clare Place, Plymouth
RG12 Pc 1730 Fo 45 Pg 30
QUARM, William Head Married M 48 Artizan b St Neot Cornwall
QUARM, Emily Wife Married F 49 b St Neot Cornwall
QUARM, James Son Single M 20 General Laborer b Plymouth Devonshire
QUARM, Catherine Daughter Single F 14 b Plymouth Devonshire
QUARM, Louisa Daughter F 11 Scholar b Plymouth Devonshire
QUARM, Charles Son M 9 Scholar b Plymouth Devonshire
Cheers, Rian.
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Thanks. Not sure if it's the right family?? The children should be born Staffordshire or Bedfordshire. It could be them, but more research necessary...
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Kelly's Directory of Devon 1893
(Kingsbridge and Dodbrooke, p305)
Quarm James, cooper, Mill street
Is the father or son do you think?
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Thanks. I'll look up that address on the census for 1891 and 1901.
Son James was also a cooper, but probably a bit young to have his own business in 1893? He was in the Navy not long after that.
:) :)
PS Where did you look up Kelly's Directory?
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Have looked at Census returns for 1891 and 1901, and the Quarm family are not living in Mill Street ??? I guess they could have lived there briefly or it was James Quarm's business address? Any suggestions what to do next?
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Hi Julie
I got the Kellys 1893 info from here:
http://www.historicaldirectories.org/
Unfortunately there isn't a similar entry in the 1889 or 1902 editions.
Possibilities?
* James and Emily may have died before 1891. I know that there are later death registrations, but we also know that there was at least one other 'Emily Quarm' living in the local area.
* They were still alive but were completely missed from the 1891 and 1901 censuses. Unlikely but not impossible.
* Their names have been misstranscribed. Possible but not terribly likely. I expect you've done the same basic searches as me - just first names with approx year of brth.
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:) Found them in 1901! Tracked down their daughter from her marriage registration. She married a John Henry Ellis and was living in Plymouth. Fortunately, not too many people in Plymouth were born in Burton-on-Trent.
A few doors away were living 'Charles' Quarm, cooper, correct age and place of birth. Wife Emily, born St Neots Cornwall (was actually St Neots Hunts, but an understandable mistake), with lodgers who were born Dudley, Staffs and Burton on Trent.
Will try the same address in 1891, and see if he changed his name, it was his middle name, or it was just a plain mistake.
Thanks for your help
julie
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Hi Julie
I did spot that entry for Charles and Emily Quarm but wasn't too sure about it.
However, does this mean that 'William' and Emily Quarm in 1891 might be the same couple?
Just a thought...
Dave
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Well, they could be! But haven't found them under the name 'Charles' Quarm either. ???
I'm looking out for any Quarms with a Burton on Trent, or St Neots connection. Or whose occupation is cooper. :P
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Hi Julie
The 'lodgers' at 85 South Milton St in the 1901 census were Alfred Charles Rankin and Maud Louise Rankin. The 1901 census was taken on 31 March, the same that that they got married! Details on the certificate are: -
Alfred Charles Rankin 25 Gas Fitter
(father - James Rankin (dec’d), Gas Manager)
Maud Louise Quarm 21
(father - James Henry Quarm, occupation - Cooper)
The marriage was witnessed by John Henry Ellis and Caroline Emma Ellis.
I've being trying to find James Quarm in 1891 and 1901 as well.
Rob
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Rob
What's your interest in these Quarms? I have Quarm ancestors in the Plymouth/Kingsbridge area, and have been looking at all the Quarms I can find on the census, to see if they all originate in Devon. So far they all do (or Cornwall). Would like to find out if it's a one off family name, or if their are a couple of separate beginnings for the name in that area. It will probably be impossible to find out, but it's quite interesting seeing what they were all up to.
Julie
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Julie,
Maud Louise Quarm was my great grandmother.
Rob
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Rob
My Great-grandma was Ethel Emily Quarm, and she was descended from John Quarm 1746-1801 of Plymouth and Sarah Murch.
How far back have you managed to get on your line? Do you know who James Henry's parents were? I found his birth reg on the index, but couldn't find him as a child. Also I have a Henry Quarm on my tree, for who I cannot find a birth, or a death, and who disappears from the census when James Henry appears. I was going to get James and Emily's marriage cert to see if they were one and the same, but you may be able to save me £7!
I hadn't realised that Maud was James Henry's daughter, as she wasn't on the census returns I had looked at.
You can have a look at my family tree. Click on the little globe thingy. I will send you a PM with the password.
Julie
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Julie,
I only began my research at the start of the year so I can't really tell you much at this stage.
Maud's age on the marriage certificate is 21, indicating that she should be on the 1881 and 1891 census returns. I've found James, Emily and family in 1881 in Stafford but Maud is not listed. I suspect that age on the marriage certifcate is incorrect. I was told that Maud was born in the workhouse in Stafford but haven't proved this (yet). I was also told that Maud's mother was called Minnie Saunders and that she was born in Dodbrook. There was a Emily Minnie Quarm who died in 1908 in Plymouth, so there looks like some truth in this.
At present all I have linking Maud to James Henry is his name on the marraige certificate.
I'll keep you upto date as I find out more.
Rob
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Hi Julie,
Just received marriage cert for James and Emily.
23rd Feb 1867 at the Parish Church Biggleswade.
James Quarm / full age / bachelor / occupation = cooper / residence quoted as Biggleswade (nothing else) / Father = James Quarm who was a carpenter.
Emily Sanders / full age / spinster / occupation = <blank> / residence Biggleswade / Father = Owen Sanders who was a horse dealer
Still no closer to finding James in 1891/1901!
Rob
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James Henry Quarm died 25/06/1903 at 85 South Milton St. Age was given as 59 years and occupation as Cooper. Informant was Louisa Rankin (daughter) also of the same address. This would suggest that the "Charles" Quarm on the 1901 census is actually James Henry.
As Maud Louise is calling herself Louisa, I am wondering if she could be the Louisa at 77 Clare Buildings in 1891.
Rob
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Have looked at that 1891 census return. How bizarre! It must be them. They have the right children living at home, although Caroline seems to have turned into Catherine, and James is this time called William! Perhaps the problem was Emily's Bedfordshire accent.
Given this family's habit of adopting middle names and dropping first names willy-nilly, I'm even more inclined to think that James Henry, is Henry son of James and Catherine Judith.
It's always possible that James Henry lied about his father's proffession when he got married, and mentioned the trade practised by his grandfather and uncles instead. Perhaps the in-laws wouldn't have approved of a 'beer- seller'.
We know James Henry's father was James, and I haven't found any other suitable James Quarms in Devon..
Some proof would be nice!
Julie