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Title: sargeant family colchester
Post by: tarina on Friday 20 October 06 17:26 BST (UK)
Hi ..Thomas Henry Sargeant born 1877/80 Colchester. He joined the Royal Engineers, dont know when, but he married an Irish girl when he was serving at the Curragh Camp Kildare in 1906. His Family came from Ardleigh and Colchester. He was baptised at Colchester Barracks in the 1920s. His fathers name was also Thomas Henry born Ardleigh, mothers name Sarah Ward. Cannot find any wedding registration for his parents. His father was a coach builder in Colchester.   I have been trying a long time to find information about the Sargeant family, but have come up with nothing.  If anyone can help me, i would be truly grateful.  Tarina
Title: Re: sargeant family colchester
Post by: lizdb on Friday 20 October 06 17:33 BST (UK)
Can you just clarify  - do you mean he was born in 1877/80 and that he was baptised in 1920's , i.e in his 50's?


Have you looked for his birth in the birth indexes, currently free to search on ancestry?
http://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/rectype/vital/freebmd/bmd.aspx
Title: Re: sargeant family colchester
Post by: Necromancer on Friday 20 October 06 17:33 BST (UK)
have you got them on the (1881) census - or are you just focussing on finding a marriage ?


Thos Snr is widowered in 1881 - 'Gentleman, formerly Coach Builder'

In 1871, in Colchester, theres just him 'Living on Property' and wife Mary Ann, born 1833, Nayland.
Title: Re: sargeant family colchester
Post by: Tati on Friday 20 October 06 17:38 BST (UK)
And little Thomas' name is WARD
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=uki1881&indiv=try&h=5154729

Birth:
Thomas Henry S Ward
June 1877
Colchester 4a 353
Title: Re: sargeant family colchester
Post by: Necromancer on Friday 20 October 06 17:43 BST (UK)
which will probably explain the lack of a Marriage Regn - as Ms Ward - his housekeeper in 1881 is shown as single ...
Title: Re: sargeant family colchester
Post by: Tati on Friday 20 October 06 17:53 BST (UK)
She seems to die a Sargeant (if she's the one) in Colchester but I agree I'm not 100% sure we will find an actual marriage   :-\
Title: Re: sargeant family colchester
Post by: Necromancer on Friday 20 October 06 17:56 BST (UK)
Must confess I didnt look for them after 1881 - but even if the census showed her as wife - it proves nowt   :-\
Title: Re: sargeant family colchester
Post by: tarina on Friday 20 October 06 17:59 BST (UK)
Can you just clarify  - do you mean he was born in 1877/80 and that he was baptised in 1920's , i.e in his 50's?


Have you looked for his birth in the birth indexes, currently free to search on ancestry?
http://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/rectype/vital/freebmd/bmd.aspx
Hi ..the only info I have got is that he married in 1906 aged 25, he was baptised before 1927, I have found a Thomas Henry on the 1881 census, but the dates dont coincide, thats why I am not sure if it is him. thanks
Title: Re: sargeant family colchester
Post by: Necromancer on Friday 20 October 06 18:02 BST (UK)
Did you not see the other posts by Tati and myself ?

Its clearly your man - ex-coachbuilder, born Ardleigh .....   Son Thomas Henry Sargent Ward born 1877.... in Colchester
Title: Re: sargeant family colchester
Post by: tarina on Friday 20 October 06 18:03 BST (UK)
have you got them on the (1881) census - or are you just focussing on finding a marriage ?


Thos Snr is widowered in 1881 - 'Gentleman, formerly Coach Builder'

In 1871, in Colchester, theres just him 'Living on Property' and wife Mary Ann, born 1833, Nayland.
 Hi ScRoppers..  I am trying to find a marriage,, just cant seem to find one.  Thanks for your help ,,Tarina
Title: Re: sargeant family colchester
Post by: tarina on Friday 20 October 06 18:07 BST (UK)
Thanks Tati ,,,I will look into that... tarina
Title: Re: sargeant family colchester
Post by: Tati on Friday 20 October 06 18:37 BST (UK)
The marriage is not on FreeBMD. Marriages on Freebmd are nearly complete for the time frame 1881 (when we know they weren't married) - 1909. 

The only years that are not complete are 1886, 1887, and 1888

You can view these years quarter by quarter here (shouldn't take too long):
http://content.ancestry.co.uk/iexec/?htx=List&dbid=8965&offerid=0%3a7858%3a0

Tanja  :)

Here are the 1881 details in case you didn't follow my above link:
RG11/1791 52 1
Colchester St Martinb
George Street

Thomas Sargent, head, wid, 44, Gentleman formerly Coach Builder, b. Ardleigh
Sarah Ward, Housekeeper, unm, 26, Formerly Tailoress, b. Colchester
Emily Eliza Ward, dau, 6, scholar, b. do.
Thos Hy Sargent Ward, son, 3, b. Colchester
Title: Re: sargeant family colchester
Post by: Arquebus on Friday 20 October 06 19:28 BST (UK)
Have you been to this site?

All about Ardleigh, with Census details from 1796 to 1901......

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~melanie/

Al.
Title: Re: sargeant family colchester
Post by: tarina on Friday 20 October 06 20:36 BST (UK)
Hi........ thanks to everyone for there help  :) As Thomas Henry Snr. was a coach builder would his name be in any directory....  Tarina  :)
Title: Re: sargeant family colchester
Post by: dob on Saturday 18 October 08 20:18 BST (UK)
Hello Tarina I am searching Sargeant in Essex .Colin