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Title: Searching for Ellen Pike
Post by: AllieCarr-Russo on Monday 16 October 06 02:58 BST (UK)
Hello i am looking for a lady who was married to a Robert Hayward back the dec quarter of 1874.  here is ellen pike background so far that i have.

in1871 her family was in andover, hampshire. her father was named Benjamin Pike 60 yrs old at the time and his job then was a carpenter and a primitive methodist preacher.  her mother was maryann , 56, brother joshua, 23,  he ws a carpenter as well ellen, 14, dressmaker apprentice, elfrida, 12, and staying with the family was a Bethsheba Pike,66. i would like to fid out more on the family and if the line goes to any duke or lady cause i was just told that ellen pike was Lady Ellen Pike when she married robert . i would appreciate any info on this side of my husbands family thank you.
Title: Re: Searching for Ellen Pike
Post by: AMBLY on Monday 16 October 06 04:13 BST (UK)
Hi STAR...

This is the 1861:

1861: Andover Hampshire
REF: RG9 - 715 / F137 / Pg: 52
ADDRESS: (None Specific)
Head:  Benjamin PIKE 52, Carpenter, b Leckford Hants
Wife: Mary A PIKE 46, b Newtown Dorset
Son: Rueben PIKE 17, Currier's Ap. b Leckford Hants
Son: Joshua PIKE 13, Scholar, b Lecford Hants
Son: Peter PIKE 11, Scholar, b Andover Hants
Dau: Mary A PIKE 10,Scholar, b Andover Hants
Dau: Lonanna PIKE 8, Scholar, b Andover Hants
Dau: Ellen PIKE 5, Scholar, b Andover Hants
Dau: Elfrida PIKE 2, b Andover Hants

Looks like Benjamin PIKE was married twice and Mary Ann was his 2nd wife
IGI:
Benjamin PIKE b 1809 Lockford Hampshire
Married: 23 Aug 1831 Lockford Hampshire to:
Lonona MERSH b 1807, died 1 April 1846

and: the same Lonona MERSH of Lockford Hampshire
Parents: Jacob MERSH and Elizabeth BLAKE

Also in 1861:

1861: Islington West, St John,  Middlesex
REF: RG9 - 136 / F103 / Pg 4
ADDRESS: 11 Walters Buildings
Servant: Bathsheba PIKE 56, female, unm, House Servant, b Leckford Hampshire
in the household, with one other servant, of  Charles WILLIAMS 68, Soap Manufacturer and wife/family.

Cheers
AMBLY

Title: Re: Searching for Ellen Pike
Post by: AllieCarr-Russo on Monday 16 October 06 04:16 BST (UK)
ambly thank you for the info do you think we can go further back?
Title: Re: Searching for Ellen Pike
Post by: AMBLY on Monday 16 October 06 04:31 BST (UK)
Hi STAR...

1851: Andover Hampshire
REF: HO107 -  1683 / F472 / Pg: 14
ADDRESS: Charlton
Head: Benjamin PIKE 42, Carpenter & Shope Keeper, b Leckford Hants
Wife: Mary Ann PIKE 36, b Newtown Dorset
Son: Josiah PIKE 11, Scholar, b Leckford Hants
Son: Rueben PIKE 9, Scholar, b Leckford Hants
Son: Joshua PIKE 3, Scholar, b Leckford Hants
Son: Peter PIKE 1, b Charlton Hants
Dau: Mary Ann PIKE 1 mth, b Charlton Hants
Lodger: Elizabeth ALLEN 61, Nurse, b Charlton Hants

(No Marital status listed for Elizabeth ALLEN)

Am now looking for Bathheba 1851, and all of them in 1841......

Cheers
AMBLY
Title: Re: Searching for Ellen Pike
Post by: AMBLY on Monday 16 October 06 05:02 BST (UK)
1841: Leckford Hampshire
Hundred:Thorngate (Upper Half)
RD: Stockbridge, REF: :HO107/384/15 / F5 / Pg5
ADDRESS: Leckford
Benjamin PIKE 30, I - Y
Louanna PIKE 30 - Y
Walter PIKE 8 - Y
Jacob PIKE 5 - Y
Janan?  PIKE 3 (male) - Y
Josiah PIKE 9 mths - Y
Laura  or Louisa  TURNER 15, F S - Y

Ages rounded down in 1841.
I think Benjamin's occupation (which was altered and the initial 4 or 5 letter word erased) is I = Ind = Independant, or it could be a "T" not an "I" in which case I have no idea what "T:" would mean.

Hampshire DEATH: Mar Qtr 1846, Stockbridge
Louanna PIKE

Hampshire  MARRIAGE: Sep Qtr 1846, New Forest
Benjamin PIKE and one of the brides was: Mary Ann WURDER or WARDER

The second Marriage (which maybe that one in New Forest) would give you Benjamin's father's name - since that marriage occurred after the beginning of English Civil Registration (whereas the one to Louanna would be an OPR and very possibly not have any information regarding parentage).

Can't find Bathsheba in 1841 or 1851 ........still looking

Cheers
AMBLY
Title: Re: Searching for Ellen Pike
Post by: AMBLY on Monday 16 October 06 06:33 BST (UK)
Found Bathesheba in 1851 - in Islington, and with the same family she was with in 1861 - her age has clearly been incorrectly enumerated as 27 - she would be abt 46 then:

1851: Islington West St John, Middlesex
REF: HO107 - 1500 / F593 / Pg22
ADDRESS: 11 Walters BUILDINGS
Servant: Bathsheba PIKE 27, House Servant, b Hants
In House of Charles Williams 58, Soap Manufactuer & his wife/family

And here:
1881: Islington West London
REF: RG11 - 244 / F92 / Pg41
ADDRESS: 2 Grove Street
Boarder: Bathsheba PIKE, 75, unm, female, Formerly Gen'l Servant, b Lecford Hants

The other people at Nr 2, listed after her are: Head: Francis MAWLAN, wife & Family.
Before her at Nr 1: are: Head: William WRIGHT , wife/dau, And Head: Frederick CHARLES/wife

Bathesba may actually be at Nr 1 or Nr 2, - could be the enumerator has erred & written the Nr 2 address on Bathesba's line, instead of on MAWLAN's line

London DEATH: Mar Qtr 1882, Bathsheba PIKE age 77

Cheers
AMBLY
Title: Re: Searching for Ellen Pike
Post by: AMBLY on Monday 16 October 06 08:08 BST (UK)
This may be Bathsheba in 1841 - bady enumerated as "Ann  born in Middlesex". Ages were rounded down in 1841.

1841: Islington West St Mary, Middlesex
REF: HO107/665/14 / F10 / Pg 14
ADDRESS: Walters Buildings
Ann PIKE 30, FS - Y
She is servant in the household of the same Charles PIKE for whom a Bathsheba was working for in 1851 & 1861.

http://www.railwayancestors.fsnet.co.uk/ra-p.html
Someone registered oin this site is interested in PIKEs from Leckford Hampshire.

Cheers
AMBLY
Title: Re: Searching for Ellen Pike
Post by: Geoff E on Monday 16 October 06 08:32 BST (UK)
Louana's bap is in the IGI

Louana MERSH, 31 May 1807 at Broughton Hants, dau of Jacob and Elizabeth.

Also a submitted entry for the marriage
23 Aug 1831 at "Lockford" (her name "Lonona")
Title: Re: Searching for Ellen Pike
Post by: AllieCarr-Russo on Monday 16 October 06 12:49 BST (UK)
everyone, thank you so much for the info so far. now here is my new question was this line of pike come from noblity or royality cause i do know that there was a thomas pike who was a duke of something but i don't know if there is a connection in anyway?
Title: Re: Searching for Ellen Pike
Post by: AllieCarr-Russo on Wednesday 18 October 06 12:45 BST (UK)
who was henry churchill's father? and who did his sister's marry? also when henry got married a second time did he have anymore childern or was annie his only duaghter? and then who did annie marry ?
Title: Re: Searching for Ellen Pike
Post by: Geoff E on Wednesday 18 October 06 15:43 BST (UK)
Who's Henry CHURCHILL ???
Title: Re: Searching for Ellen Pike
Post by: AllieCarr-Russo on Wednesday 18 October 06 15:46 BST (UK)
sorry i put it on the wrong board but henry churchill was annie churchill's father she was born in 1856, england.  but what i meant was who was benjamin's pike 's parents and the same question for her mom.... sorry for the mix up  :(
Title: Re: Searching for Ellen Pike
Post by: AllieCarr-Russo on Monday 23 October 06 21:45 BST (UK)
can we find any else on her or her silbelingss like who they married and their kids try to go back further
Title: Re: Searching for Ellen Pike
Post by: AllieCarr-Russo on Tuesday 05 December 06 15:37 GMT (UK)
can some help me find benjamin pike's parents and or brother and sister?

benjamin was b. 1809 in leckford/lockford, hampshire. i would love to find his background with his parents?

thanks

allie
Title: Re: Searching for Ellen Pike
Post by: AllieCarr-Russo on Thursday 07 December 06 19:02 GMT (UK)
ok i have benjamin's father and then his grandfater but i need too fill in the blanks.

John pike married a lady by the name of elizabeth ( don't know last name)they had tree kids Peter, Isaac, Jacob & moses. John died in 1824 i believe in Leckford, Hampshire. Elizabeth in 1814. peter was born in leckford but i don'e were his brothers were born or his parents also got to finsd out when they were married
Title: Re: Searching for Ellen Pike
Post by: allense64 on Sunday 07 November 10 23:04 GMT (UK)
Hi
 I have just been reading your thread and as it was a while ago I wondered if you were still looking ?? Benjamin Pike of leckford was a great great great grandad of mine , my great great grandad was his son jacob from his marriage to mary anne.
My records found Benjamin dad as Peter pike and ann moor , peter pike had siblings Moses, ann , isaac which you had in your thread but with different parents??? as I have their parents as Robert Pike and deborah spicer who were married in leckford in 1757. Roberts father and mother were also a Robert pike and Elizabeth .
If you can add or change any of this I would be grateful and happy to hear from you .
By the way Bethsheba was a sister of Benjamin pike who never married.
Kind Regards
Sharon Allen
Title: Re: Searching for Ellen Pike
Post by: AllieCarr-Russo on Wednesday 11 May 11 17:32 BST (UK)
hello Sharon Allen,

i am sorry i am getting back to you so very late. yes that is the same been in my tree i will have to double check his parents for it as been very long since i worked on that side of the family. but i will get back to you when i can

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