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Title: Griffiths of Deganwy
Post by: vivienpinewood on Friday 13 October 06 20:14 BST (UK)
I am looking for my grandmothers cousins who were the Griffiths family, living in Machno House, Deganwy. David Griffiths (1870) and his wife Jane had 3 boys, Robert Glynn 1898, Edward Idwal 1899, and David Penri 1902. Any information would be welcomed.
Title: Re: Griffiths of Deganwy
Post by: Quarryman on Saturday 14 October 06 14:50 BST (UK)
Hi,

Had a look at the 1871 census for Deganwy, and cannot find any Griffiths or a Machno House.

Any other details, or leads.

Regards

Quarryman
Title: Re: Griffiths of Deganwy
Post by: vivienpinewood on Saturday 14 October 06 16:37 BST (UK)
Hi,

David Griffiths was born in 1870 in Penmachno, and Machno House, Deganwy was known to be his residence when his children were small. I have a letter addressed there dated 1915. So it therefore dates after the last census.

Many thanks for your interest, any other help gratefully received.
Vivien.
Title: Re: Griffiths of Deganwy
Post by: WelshGen on Monday 16 October 06 02:58 BST (UK)
Found a David Griffiths in 1881 living at 6 Arthur Terrace, Penmachno aged 11 with his mother Catherine Griffiths aged 44 and 2 brothers and three sisters.
Can post the rest when I get time if this is the family.
Title: Re: Griffiths of Deganwy
Post by: vivienpinewood on Monday 16 October 06 10:19 BST (UK)
Hi,

Yes I believe this to be the same family, its the post census years that are making it difficult!
I do have these details, but many thanks for taking the time to help.
Kind regards,
Vivien.
Title: Re: Griffiths of Deganwy
Post by: kimhughes on Thursday 19 October 06 10:26 BST (UK)
I found them on the 1901 living at 2 Victoria Buildings in Deganwy.

David Griffith  31
Jane Griffith   31
Robert G Griffith 3
Edward J    2
Mary Ainsworth (visitor)
Ellen Jones (servant)
RG13/5289

I live near Deganwy if I can be of any help.

Title: Re: Griffiths of Deganwy
Post by: vivienpinewood on Thursday 19 October 06 22:21 BST (UK)
This must be the right family, but perhaps as you are local I could enlist your help to explain why on the 1901 they are in Eglwys Rhos, with no mention of Deganwy apart from in some of the house or street names. Was Deganwy part of somewhere else at that time? I had thought it was a sizeable town which would be named independantly in the census. And Llanrhos..how does that fit in?
Title: Re: Griffiths of Deganwy
Post by: WelshGen on Friday 20 October 06 00:36 BST (UK)
Deganwy and Llanrhos are quite close together
http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?G2M?X=278500&Y=379500&A=Y&Z=3
I'm not sure about Eglwys Rhos unless it is the name for the parish which covers part of both the forementioned. I'm near Bangor so Kim may be able to help you further
Title: Re: Griffiths of Deganwy
Post by: D ap D on Friday 20 October 06 10:20 BST (UK)
the genuki site helps with this question:

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/CAE/EglwysRhos/index.html

The names of Eglwysrhos and Llanrhos are interchangeable. In Welsh, Eglwys is Chuch, whereas Llan usually means parish, but can also mean church. (http://www.geiriadur.net/)

Victoria Buildings are directly opposite where the railway station used to be, and are still standing.

I'm there in a couple of weeks, and will take a photo.

D
Title: Re: Griffiths of Deganwy
Post by: vivienpinewood on Friday 20 October 06 12:28 BST (UK)
How fantastic..would love a photo!
Many thanks,
Vivien.
Title: Re: Griffiths of Deganwy
Post by: kimhughes on Sunday 22 October 06 15:36 BST (UK)
You can find old photos of deganwy at:-

www.anglesey.info/Deganwy_Photograph_Archive.htm

Kim
Title: Re: Griffiths of Deganwy
Post by: cathgriff on Sunday 14 November 10 13:08 GMT (UK)
edward idwal griffith was my grandfather and i have other info about him and his family. found this link when researching him and his brother's involvement in the first world war for my son's homework
Title: Re: Griffiths of Deganwy
Post by: vivienpinewood on Sunday 14 November 10 14:41 GMT (UK)
Thank you so much for getting in touch. Since the original post on this site, I have been fortunate enough to be in contact with Geraint Griffith and he supplied me with more recent details of the family. I would be very interested to exchange information as my grandmother was very close to those in Deganwy where she often stayed, and left me  photographs which you might like to see, also a Christmas card from the front in 1918  sent to her from Glynn, which might be of interest to your son.
Are you the daughter of David Griffith by any chance? I don't have a lot of information about your grandfather and his immediate family, so just a guess.

Title: Re: Griffiths of Deganwy
Post by: cathgriff on Sunday 14 November 10 20:23 GMT (UK)
Yes I am David Griffith's daughter. I have 3 children; Huw b.1997, Henry b.1999, Rachel b.2004. I have researched quite a lot of the family history back to the Griffith and the Vaughan family at Penmachno but would be so interested to learn more and also share info / photos with you. Geraint is my father's first cousin and I know he saw him recently and discussed some family history.What is your connection? Is it through Sera and her brothers?
Title: Re: Griffiths of Deganwy
Post by: vivienpinewood on Monday 15 November 10 09:55 GMT (UK)
David Griffith's wife, Jane Evans (1870-1922)  had a brother named John, and he was my grandmothers father. There were 9 Evans siblings in all.
Which meant that my grandmother Elizabeth was 1st cousin to the 3 Griffith sons, and as she was born around the same time as them in 1898 they saw quite a lot of each other, Deganwy being a lovely place for a holiday!
Which translated back means we share gt gt grandparents!
Title: Re: Griffiths of Deganwy
Post by: cathgriff on Monday 15 November 10 23:39 GMT (UK)
really interesting as I have no information or very little about that side of the family. I only know that Jane, or Jennie, as she was known, came from Bwlch Gwyn near Wrexham. My Dad seemed to think that her parents may have both been married before and so there were half brothers and sisters. Was there a brother, Jimmie who was killed in the Senghenydd pit disaster? I also have a wonderful wedding photograph of David and Jennie with David's brother and I think, Lizzie, Jennie's sister who must be your ancestor? Perhaps you have the same picture but if not you might like a copy. I am based near Welshpool so am not far away from Wrexham. My brother and I have the same names as our great great grand parents; Catherine ( nee Vaughan) and Edward Griffith.