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Title: Wealthy Orphans? Allan Family of Maryhill/Milton
Post by: andrew shanks on Thursday 12 October 06 19:13 BST (UK)
I am trying to find out what happened to the orphaned children of Thomas Allan who owned the Springbank iron foundry at Garscube Road in Milton/Maryhill.

Known children by Thomas' first wife, Elisabeth Campbell, were:

Jane Laird Allan b1868 at Garscube Cottage, Maryhill; and
Elly Marie Allan b1870 at Milton.

Elisabeth Campbell died in 1870 and Thomas later married Isabella Forbes.  Known child of Thomas Allan & Isabella Forbes was:

Isa Forbes Allan b1873 at 'The House', Springbank Iron Works, Milton.

I believe that Thomas' wife, Isabella Forbes, died in Sept 1884 in Argyllshire and that Thomas Allan died in Nov 1884 at Kelvinside.

This would have left at least 3 (presumably wealthy) children.  What became of them? 

I would be grateful for any assistance with this.

 :)

Title: Re: Wealthy Orphans? Allan Family of Maryhill/Milton
Post by: atherleigh on Tuesday 13 February 07 08:56 GMT (UK)
Hi,
In regards to Elisabeth Campbell, do you any more details about her? ie parents, birth date, place?
I have a few Elisabeth Campbells from the Bishopbriggs/Cadder area in my family tree, which isn't far from Maryhill.

Regards,
Cheryl
Title: Re: Wealthy Orphans? Allan Family of Maryhill/Milton
Post by: JustJean on Tuesday 13 February 07 11:53 GMT (UK)
HEre is the family in 1881......there is also a Jane Allan in a boarding School in Edinburgh that looks likely

Kincaid Mansion House, Campsie, Stirling, Scotland
GROS Vol. 475, ED 11, Pg 8
   
Thomas ALLAN, Married, age 38, Male, b. Maryhill, Lanark, Scotland, Head, Occupation: Iron Founder Master employing 500 Men 150 Boys
Isabella ALLAN, Married, age 28, Female, b.Kincardine O'Neil, Aberdeen, Scotland, Wife
Elly M. ALLAN, age 10, Female, b. Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland, Daughter, Scholar
Isa F. ALLAN, age 7, Female, b.Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland, Daughter, Scholar
Thomas G.B. ALLAN, age 5, Male, b. Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland, Son, Scholar
George M. MATHER, Unmarried, age 37, Male, b. Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland, Visitor, Wine Merchant
Mary SINCLAIR, Unmarried age 34, Female, b. St Ola, Orkney, Scotland, Housemaid Domestic Servant
Isabella GEDDES, Unmarried age 22, Female, b. Longside, Aberdeen, Scotland, Cook Domestic Servant
Hannah BUCHANAN, Unmarried, age 28, Female, b. Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland, Nurse Domestic Servant
Katherina MONTEITH, Unmarried, age 23, Female, B. Kippen, Stirling, Scotland, Tablemaid Domestic Servant
Mary BRISBANE, Unmarried, age 26, Female, b.Kirkoswald, Ayr, Scotland, Laundryymaid Domestic Servant


Best wishes
Jean
Title: Re: Wealthy Orphans? Allan Family of Maryhill/Milton
Post by: JustJean on Tuesday 13 February 07 12:18 GMT (UK)
In 1891 you'll find Janey(23) and Elly(20) boarding in Partick with a Georgiana Stevenson (widow) age 33.  THere is one house servant and no one has an occupation.  Georgiana is listed as born Kinross....Janey Maryhill and Elly Glasgow.  The 1891 census can be veiewed on ScotlandsPeople (646/03 045/03 003).

Best wishes
Jean
Title: Re: Wealthy Orphans? Allan Family of Maryhill/Milton
Post by: andrew shanks on Tuesday 13 February 07 18:11 GMT (UK)
JustJean

Thank you very much for this information.  I have no idea who Georgina Stevenson might be - yet another mystery........................

Cheryl

Elisabeth Campbell was born 28 May 1848 at Lochwinnoch.  Her parents were Robert Campbell & Jane Laird.  Unfortunately I do not have their birth dates/locations etc.

 :)
Title: Re: Wealthy Orphans? Allan Family of Maryhill/Milton
Post by: tidybooks on Tuesday 13 February 07 22:51 GMT (UK)
On Sctland People website , you can download the Will and Testament of Thomas Allan.

""Ironfounder, Glasgow, sometime residing at Kincaid House, Milton of Campsie, afterwards at 2 Beauly Terrace, Kelvinside, Glasgow, d. 17/11/1884 at Glasgow, testate""

Cost you £5 for each,  the Will is 7 pages and Testament 9 pages.

Tom
Title: Re: Wealthy Orphans? Allan Family of Maryhill/Milton
Post by: runningbear on Tuesday 13 February 07 23:49 GMT (UK)
1861 census; west burnthills, lochwinnoch

robert...head...age 51...farmer of 20 acres
janet...wife...age 49
james...son...age 22...app joiner
william...son...age 19...works on farm
robert...son...age 15...works on farm
elizabeth...dau...age 12
john...son...age 9

all born lochwinnoch

1851 census; burnthills

robert...head...age 42...farmer of 20 acres
jean...wife...age 38
jessie...dau...age 14
james...son...age 12
margaret...dau...age 10
william...son...age 7
robert...son...age 5
eliza...dau...age 2


the 1851 census sends out a strong message here because robert married jane laird on the 9th july 1847, a wee looksee at the igi's suggest robert married to janet robinson


1841 census; burnthills

robert...age 30...farmer
janet...age 25
janet...age 4
james...age 2
margaret...age 2 months
hugh...age 20...ag labourer
agnes barbour...age 25...female servant

all born renfrewshire


Joe
Title: Re: Wealthy Orphans? Allan Family of Maryhill/Milton
Post by: tidybooks on Wednesday 14 February 07 00:24 GMT (UK)
i have got a Georgina (no surname)( married Peter Stevenson 1881 at Blythswood, Glasgow. I have him dying by 1886.

Joebhoy,

Can you find Peter or Georgina in the 1881 census


Tom
Title: Re: Wealthy Orphans? Allan Family of Maryhill/Milton
Post by: JustJean on Wednesday 14 February 07 00:52 GMT (UK)
Since Georgiana stated a birthplace of Kinross on the later census I'd have to put my money on this being the right couple in 1881:

16 Kew Terrace, Govan, Lanark, Scotland
GROS Reference, Vol 646-2, ED 34A, Pg 8
   
Wm. STEVENSON, Married, age 40, Male, b. Campsie, Stirling, Scotland, Head, Solicitor and Member Of Faculty Og Procurators
Georgiana STEVENSON, Married, age 23, Female, b.Kinross, Kinross, Scotland, Wife
Elizabeth DALLAS, Unmarried, age 28, Female, b. Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland, Cook Domestic Servant
Jessie MC MURTRIE   Unmarried, age 26, Female, b.Dumfermline, Fife, Scotland, Housemaid Domestic Servant
Title: Re: Wealthy Orphans? Allan Family of Maryhill/Milton
Post by: tidybooks on Wednesday 14 February 07 09:44 GMT (UK)
Yes, Jean,that looks good. Wonder what the maiden surname was, maybe related to the girls, Janey and Elly, and aunt, perhaps?

Tom
Title: Re: Wealthy Orphans? Allan Family of Maryhill/Milton
Post by: tidybooks on Wednesday 14 February 07 10:01 GMT (UK)
Found the marriage on SP, William Stevenson married Georgi*na Barnet at Kinross in 1879, Georgiana was born in Kinross 8th Mar 1858 to parents George Barnet and Elizabeth Guthrie.

Now is there any relationship?

Tom

Title: Re: Wealthy Orphans? Allan Family of Maryhill/Milton
Post by: tidybooks on Wednesday 14 February 07 10:20 GMT (UK)
William Stevenson born 1841 dies 1884 aged 44 at Partick in Glasgow, that is where Georgiana was in 1891 census. Could be correct?

The funny thing is, if he was a Solicitor you think he would have had a will, searched on SP, and none.

Tom