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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Midlothian => Topic started by: sam-ann on Thursday 12 October 06 11:54 BST (UK)
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Hi,
hope i am at the right place for Edinburgh! I am trying to trace the birth/bap for John Dobbie born 1836 Edinburgh.John married Jane McIndoe 18 Aug 1854 Barony Glasgow, but i know from other records he was born Edinburgh, but don't have his parents sadly..
any Dobbies in Edinburgh would be a start i think...
Many thanks
Sam-Ann
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Not sure if we have done this before the only one that fits http://www.familysearch.org Birth John Dobbie 16 April 1836 Glasgow Lanark parents William Dobbie and Agnes Wilson? Thinking about marriage Barony Glasgow?
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thank you for your help, i have looked for John and his family in Glasgow but until yesterday i i was aware that John was born theer until i read one of his childrens birth certs which gives his place of birth as Edinburgh...and i didn't actully find a birth for John in Glasgow either so now you have given me something to think about with the birth entry you have found for him at glasgow! Phew...
thanks
Sam-ann
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Scotland has been my torment also I have even been to the Mitchel Glasgow and couldn't find my birth sooooo frustrating. >:(
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you don't know how good that makes me feel, i thought it was just me... ;D
Scotland is very frustrating and thank god for this website or i'd be lost!
cheers
Sam-Ann
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John Dobbie and Jane Mcindoe are my GGP's, contact me
Arthur Dobbie
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Hi,
John Dobbie 25 b 1836 Edinburgh (Tinsmith) was at 48 Stockwell Street Glasgow in 1861 census with wife Jane aged 23 born Glasgow, children John 5 and Helen 2 both born Glasgow.
Tom
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Tom, thanks for your reply I do have that census detail. I have a son John born to John and Jane Sept 1856 at 36 Bothwell St Anderson Glasgow and wondered if the Census should read Bothwell St. I was told Stockwell St was in the business area and I think my family are more likely to be in a poorer area.
Arthur
Liverpool
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If you can find John's death certificate (and it's in Scotland) then both his parents (including his mother's maiden name) should be named on it. But there are occasions when someone doesn't know them!
Nell
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Nell, thanks for your reply but John died in Liverpool and his parents are not on his death certificate
Arthur
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Hi Arthur,
Bothwell Street is very much in business area also. However checked up for other family,
Children of John Dobbie and Jane McIndoe were: -
Helen Dobbie b 27 Jun 1855 Anderston, Glasgow (extracted record)
John Dobbie b 27 Aug 1856 Anderston, Glasgow (extracted record)
Helen Greenhill Dobbie 05 Aug 1859 Anderston, Glasgow (extracted record)
Margaret McBeth Dobbie 17 Jan 1862 Barony, Glasgow (extracted record)
Robert McIndoe Dobbie 15 Feb 1864 Barony, Glasgow (extracted record)
William McBeth Dobbie17 Feb 1866 Barony, Glasgow (extracted record)
So it looks like they moved from Bothwell St, Anderston to Stockwell St, Barony district after 1859 and before 1861 census.
Tom
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Tom, thanks again for replying and the other info, I spent 2 years trawling through the Glasgow 1861 Census before I found my family I am now trying to find John on the 1851 Census for Glasgow and Edinburgh as Edinburgh was given as his place of birth on one of his childrens birth certificates but I don't fancy spending another couple of years doing that.
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Hi Arthur,
I have found a 6 yo John Dobie (1 x B) staying in the Wirral, Cheshire to parents John and Isabella, who were all born in Scotland in the 1841 England census.
I cannot find him in the 1851 English or Scottish census, although there was a 16 yo lodger, but could not prove it was him.
We already posted 1861 Scotland census, now we find him again as John Dobbie (2 x B) in the 1871 English census in Liverpool as a 35 yo Tinsmith with 33 yo wife Jane, son John 13 is a Tinsmith, Helen (Ellen) is 11 Margaret 8, Robert6 all born in Scotland plus Anne 1 born in Liverpool.
They are in Toxteth Park in the 1881 census, and in 18 White St, Liverpool in the 1891 where Jane the wife states that she was born in Liverpool where previously it has stated Scotland.
Perhaps with wife Jane a Liverpool lass, maybe that is why they moved back. I think John's parents maybe John and Isabella from 1841 census.
Tom
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Tom, many thanks once again for your reply I have the Census 1861 Glasgow and 1871 to 1901 Liverpool for my family. I'm not sure if Jane was a Liverpool lass as other relatives said she had a strong Scottish accent. I will follow up the Wirral link as there is another rootswebber researching this family and we are going to exchange info. I did find a marriage in Cannongate Edinburgh 4 May 1818 of Richard Dobie and Margaret McBeth (one of John's children was called Margaret McBeth Dobbie) but could not prove these were John's parents.
Arthur