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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Lancashire => England => Lancashire Lookup Requests => Topic started by: claudia99 on Monday 08 November 04 11:32 GMT (UK)
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Would someone please be able to check the 1861 census for Manchester to see who was living at 10 Comet St, Manchester.
Surnames I am interested in are Speakman and Holliday/Halliday.
This address was given on a marriage certificate for both parties.
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couldn't find those names in Comet St. What forenames are you looking for?
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I have Speakman ancestors living in Manchester. I believe that they may have been publicans. If this information would be of assistance - let me know.
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Cragrat,
I don't have any Speakmans who were publicans - mine all seemed to be cabinet makers.
Mine also seemdd to stay around the Salford area.
I fany of this looks like what you have, let me know.
Molar,
Names I have are James Speakman, Caroline Holliday
Claudia
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Would you like me to check Salford 1861 surname indexes for these people?
There are about a dozen SPEAKMANs and probably more HOLLIDAYs
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Hi SKB
That would be great if you could please!
My Speakman people are all cabinet makers so any who are cabinet makers are likely to be mine.
Thanks again
Claudia
More details
Henry Speakman, wife Caroline, son James (b1848)
Also Robert Jones, wife Mary Ann and daughter Eliza (b 1848) - they could also have been at 10 Comet St
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Salford SPEAKMANs
Couldn't find any cabinet makers. Did find a carpenter
RG9/2915/60/14
2 Richmond Hill (Parish of St Matthias)
William SPEAKMAN,head,m,48,Carpenter,Rochdale
Elizabeth ,wife,m,47,Salmesbury
Sarah ,dau,u,21,Dress & Mantle Maker, Blackburn
Richard ,son,u,15,Joiner(app),Blackburn
Elizabeth A ,dau,u,8,Blackburn
and someone with illegible occupation
RG9/2909/10/144
Bury New Road (No number given, but next to Police Station)
James SPEAKMAN,head,m,50,? Journeyman,Atherton
Margaret ,wife,m,42,Manchester
Thomas ,son,u,19, ditto pupil,Manchester
Edward ,son,u,9,B roughton
Bessie ,dau,u,7,Broughton
Arthur ,son,u,1, Broughton
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I have an Edwin Speakman who was born c. 1868 in Manchester who was a wood turner. This is quoted both as his occupation on the 1901 census and again on his son's marriage certificate in 1920. I haven't followed Edwin's line yet.............I will do and if I find any further cabinet maker/wood turner/carpenter Speakman relations I'll let you know.
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Thanks SKB - will crossreference this to what I have.
Cragrat - Not sure what relation this Edwin Speakman is to you but I have one born 15 Jun 1867 at 10 Comet Street, Manchester. He was my 2nd great grand uncle (!) - that's what the relationship calculator on my database tells me anyway!
Please let me know how you are related to him - I have a lot of Speakman info to share with you! Much of it came from a distant cousin who is actually descended from this Edwin - I am descended from his older brother James.
Claudia
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Hi!
I believe that Edwin was my great great granddad. I originally found his name on my great grandparent's 1920 marriage certificate. I made a mistake on my previous post - it is actually on his daughter's marriage certificate and not his sons. At that point the family home appears to be in Brick Street, Ardwick.
In 1901 he is living with his mother-in-law at Fortune Street in Manchester and his wife Ellen Ann. He is 33 yrs old. They have 6 named children - John, Lister, Ellis, Catherine, Caroline & Alice. In c.1902 my great grandmother Annie was born.
On both the 1901 census and the marriage certificate he is recorded as being a wood turner.
Annie - my great grandmother was tragically killed in 1940 during the Manchester blitz. I have more information regarding Annie and her family if either yourself, or our other distant 'Speakman cousin' would be interested.
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Hi Cragrat,
I've sent you a PM.
Looks like you are my 4th cousin!
Also, whichever of your parents is descended from Edwin is also the 3rd cousin of another family member I am in contact with on family tree issues - I got in contact with him through GenesReunited.
Claudia