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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Durham => Topic started by: marie1983 on Sunday 01 October 06 16:48 BST (UK)
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If anyone's doing a family tree or starts one, which involves families from Weardale, give me a shout, we may be able to compare notes.
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Hi Marie
I have an interest in Weardale, particularly Crawleyside, Wolsingham and Stanhope.
My gg grandmother was called Margaret Amelia Rose and she lived at Crawleyside. Her eldest three children were Jane (1858), George William (1861) and John Alfred (1862) (my g grandfather). All three were called Rose.
Margaret Amelia then married a Thomas Moore in 1863 but he swiflty disappeared and she went on to have Frederick (1867), John Joseph (1871), Elizabeth (1876), Mary Annie (1880), Violet Ethel, (1883), Alice Amelia (1886) and Peter Smith (1888). All of these children had the surname Moore.
None of the children had a father registered on their birth certificates but at least the last four belonged to John George Smith who Margaret Amelia lived with between at least 1880 and his death in 1901. These four children were also known as Smith rather than their registered name of Moore.
Margaret Amelia's mother Ann moved to Wolsingham with her husband John Bewley in the late 1840's and ran the Phoenix Inn in Stanhope for some time. Margaret Amelia lived with her aunt Margaret Willey and her husband William who also had a pub in Stanhope after they moved there in the late 1840's.
Alice Amelia Moore married a John Watson Henderson and she died in 1951 at the Campbell Arms in Crawleyside.
Peter Smith Moore died in 1962 at Kell Cottage Crawleyside.
Apart from my direct ancestors I have been unable to trace any of my great grandfather's siblings and I would be grateful if you could help in any way.
Best Wishes
Andrea
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Hi Maria and Andrea........the names that crop up in my Weardale Tree are,
Laidler, Peart, Ellwood, Kidd, Elliott, Lowe and Smith
Either of you researching any of these names?
Jean
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Hi Jean
Although none of mine were legally called Smith they were known as Smith and I think that they may have continued to use the Smith name.
Many thanks
Andrea
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Sorry Marie and Andrea, I can't be of any help on this post whatsoever,
but I just spotted Darlingtonian :)
Jean - a very warm welcome to RootsChat, if there is anything you need don't hesitate to shout! :D
Pels :)
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Hello Andrea. Don't know if you have the family in the 1861 census. Here it is in case
you do not have it.
RG9 3726, folio 11, schedule 90, Wallbuts Inn, Frosterley.
BEWLEY John, head, married, age 45, inn keeper and farmer of 80 acres, born Couldbeck, Cumberland.
BEWLEY Ann, wife, age 39, born Thirsk, Yorkshire.
BEWLEY John, son, age 12, born Stanhope.
BEWLEY George, son, age 11, born Stanhope.
BEWLEY Matthew, son, age 8, born Stanhope.
BEWLEY Margaret, daughter, age 6, born Stanhope.
Adamand
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I have JONATHAN WALTON FORSTER who was born in Weardale in 1812. His father was RALPH but I don't have any information on his mother. Chances are her maiden name was Walton though! :) I would very much appreciate any further information.
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Thanks Pels..........will do :)
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5 Sep 1789 Ralph Forster = Mary Rutter
marriage in stanhope.. not sure if this is your ralph.probably not, i think its too early.
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Thanks Adamand, I can trace them back to the 1830's to Thirsk which is where Ann originally cam from. She was the daughter of a publican too and I think Bewley came to work there and they married and then moved to Stanhope at the same time as her sister.
What I have been unable to do is trace the family down the generations, particularly the other descendents of Margaret Amelia. I know where they all were at the turn of the century and a little later but then I become stuck. I have even put an appeal into the Weardale Gazette in the hope that someone may recognise themselves as a descendent of any of the family but no luck so far. Of course, there is a good chance that they all moved away so I may be looking in the wrong place.
Many thanks for your help
Andrea
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5 Sep 1789 Ralph Forster = Mary Rutter
marriage in stanhope.. not sure if this is your ralph.probably not, i think its too early.
Could be, although it would have been 23 years later when they had Jonathan!
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HI there
I have Weardale ancestors. My ggg grandfather was Albany Forster, later known as Obadiah Forster, born in St Johns Chapel in 1828. His parents were John Forster and Mary Sproat or Sprout. Like many people in that part of the world, they were lead miners. At some point in the 1830s they moved to Kenton near Newcastle (now a suburb of Newcastle) and appear on the 1841 census as coal miners.
I haven't been able to get any further back with certainty. There are various John Forsters who could be my ancestor, but I don't know which one.
If you have any more info, I would be grateful.
Thanks
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Hello Marie,
I am trying to trace two families in Weardale. The descendants of Thomas Armstrong b1841 married to Mary Ann Heatherington b 1842 Burnfoot, St Johns Chapel and the descendants of Ralph Philipson b1839 Stanhope and his wife Elizabeth Hodgson b 1841 Stanhope. They are my grandfathers grandparents. His mother was Jane Philipson b 1870 and his father was one of Thomas Armstrong's sons (but we don't know which one as he is not named on the birth certificate) My grandfather, Fred b1896, was raised by his paternal grandparents(and took the name Armstrong) and his sister (b 1895 Elizabeth Grace Philipson) was raised by their shared maternal grandparents at East Blackdene. I have created a huge family tree for both families going back to 1770 but I can not find out what happened to those ancestors named above. They worked in St Johns Chapel - Thomas's Drapers store is now the Co-op. I would love to find out what happened to Jane and to my great aunt Grace but keep coming up against a brick wall. Any help would be appreciated.
regards
Yvonne.
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Hello,
I have ancestors in Weardale too. Mainly Stanhope and St John's Chapel though they moved to Durham in the 1830s. The certain names in my tree are Hodgson and Thompson and (more tentatively) Featherstone, Vipond/Vipont and Craggell.
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Roobarb,
Just in case Ralph Forster and Mary Rutter are yours:
Baptism St John's Chapel
Betty Foster, born 14 Mr 1801, baptised 12 Apr 1801, 2nd daur of Ralph Foster, of Huntshieldford, miner, native of this parish by his wife Mary Rutter, native of this parish
Thomas Forster, born 26 May 1802, baptised 27 Nov 1802 5th son of Ralph Forster, of Huntshieldford, miner, native of this parish by his wife Mary Rutter, Native of this parish
There are quite a few others. I don't have baptisms for St. John's Chapel after 1812. If Mary married when she was 18 she would only be 43 in 1812. My great grandmother was 50 when she had her last one!!!!
Janis
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The bishop's transcripts on familysearch have St John's chapel up until 1840. If you look under Durham/Stanhope there are 3 series. One for Stanhope itself with some St John's mixed in and two for St John's. Of course they are not indexed or searchable but they might be useful for any post 1812 information.
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Hi, I also have ancestors from Weardale: John Mason (1786 -after 1851) who married Phillis Watson. They had among others Ralph Mason, b. in 1821 in Weardale, d. 1866 in Hetton le Hole, Durham.
Linda Merle
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Roobarb,
Just in case Ralph Forster and Mary Rutter are yours:
Baptism St John's Chapel
Betty Foster, born 14 Mr 1801, baptised 12 Apr 1801, 2nd daur of Ralph Foster, of Huntshieldford, miner, native of this parish by his wife Mary Rutter, native of this parish
Thomas Forster, born 26 May 1802, baptised 27 Nov 1802 5th son of Ralph Forster, of Huntshieldford, miner, native of this parish by his wife Mary Rutter, Native of this parish
There are quite a few others. I don't have baptisms for St. John's Chapel after 1812. If Mary married when she was 18 she would only be 43 in 1812. My great grandmother was 50 when she had her last one!!!!
Janis
Apologies Janis, for some reason I've missed your reply on this. Thank you for the information, it may well be what I'm looking for as I did pin the family down to Huntshieldford. I can get back to this branch now!
Thank you! ;D ;D ;D
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I have a family interest in Stanhope. My great grandfather, Inspector Andrew Stark, was transferred from West Stanley Police, on his appointment as Superintendent, to Stanhope in 1913.
A house in the village was pointed out to me, as being where he and the family had once lived, which is now a B & B. I have since found that the family were living in 'Conaty House', Stanhope in 1916, which casts doubt on the B & B as being the same place, as that has a totally different name.
So.... if anyone can please help, I'm trying to find if 'Conaty House' still exists and if so, where in the village it is.
justmej
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Hello,
I have ancestors from Weardale, they married here in the Parish Church of Wolsingham in 1854, there names were William Appleby and Eleanor Whitfield. Eleanor and her family lived in Wolsingham. William's was residence when he married was Stanhope and Eleanor's was Bishopley or Bishopry.
William's daughter Eve Appleby was born in Stanhope, and she married Charles Hudson I think in 1895. William in 1901 lived with his daughter, who was living with her husband. They are living at Vulcan Street, Witton Park. William's wife died in 1894.
Do you have any Applebys, Whitfields or Hudsons from Weardale.
Thanks,
Best Wishes,
Ryan
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Hi Ryan,
Do you know the names of Eleanor's parents? Did she have any siblings?
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Yes, her parents were John Whitfield and Sarah (Balmer). Her siblings were Ann, John, Elizabeth and Joshua. I have only found the census for 1851 for them. Maybe you could help find the others, John and Sarah may ahve died there in Wolsingham I don't know, wish I did.
Thanks,
Regards,
Ryan
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Ryan,
The place is swarming with Whitfields you know. ;D
It would help if you could give some approximate years of birth specially for Eleanor and her parents. Any other info you have about the family would be great too. - You obviously know Eleanor's parents are John and Sarah Balmer ... do you have a source for this info?
I have Whitfields in the area too. There are several families of them around Durham/Northumberland, and some are fairly well documented. It's just a matter of working out which lot yours fit into. The names Eleanor Whitfield and William Appleby rang a bell (but I might just be imagining it) which is why I asked who her parents were.
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Ryan,
Found a couple of things for you:
1861
Rodymoor
Crook and Billy Row
RG9/3714/33/18
John Whitfield head widr quarryman Yks Swaledale
John son 16 quarryman Westmorland Brough
Ann daur 10 Durham Frocterly (?)
Mary daur 4 Durham Frocterly (?)
[So Sarah died between the 1851 and 1861 censuses ;)]
Now I have no proof but I have a suspicion that these might be John's parents and siblings:
1841
Tin Bridge
Brough
Westmorland
HO107/1156/16/2
John Whitfield 75 lead miner
Eleanor 60
Joshua 20
Matthew 15
Mary 15
[None of the family is born in Westmorland]
From the IGI:
Eleanor Whitfield
chr 31 Mar 1833
Arkengarthdale (?)
Yorkshire
father John
mother Sarah
Joshua Whitfield
chr 26 Jul 1835
Edmondbyers (?)
Durham
father John
mother Sarah
John Whitfield = Sarah Balmer
16 Sept 1832 Kirkby Stephen, Westmorland
Doesn't look like our Whitfields have a connection as none of these families are familiar to me.
PS. If you have any specific requests or lookups for your family, it might be an idea to start a new thread on the appropriate board. I think I've already hi-jacked this thread too much, sorry marie and others. ;D
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Hi,
My ggmother was a Jane A. Williams b. Crawleyside circa 1850. She married William J. Wilson b. Coxhoe circa 1847. Their son John J. born Tow Law 1876
and my gmother, Ann Ellen b. Blaydon 1880.
Any info would be welcome.
Alan
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Tynedale,
You might want to make this inquiry as a new topic rather than attached to this unrelated one.
Janis
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Hi,
All my descendants were from the Weardale area:-
Bell and Forrest(Allendale/Stanhope),Pattinson, Winter, Price (Rookton/Stanhope),Martindale and a few Coulthards................
Max
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William Thompson born Aug 1799 in Lanchester Married Jane Allison born 1802 in Wolsingham. They lived at Broadwood Farm as Servant in Husbandary.
William's Father was Robert Thompson Mother Ann Dyson born Tanfield married 1796 in Tanfield
Jane's Father was John Allison I believe he was a Miller in Wolsingham.
Children.
M: Thomas Thompson 1827 in Wolsingham
M: Allison Thompson 1929 in Stanhope
M: John Thompson 1832 in Stanhope, Broadwood Farm (My GGGrandfather)
F: Mary Thompson 1834 in Wolsingham
F: Hannah Thompson 1835 in Stanhope
F: (Mary) Ann Thompson 1840 in Houghton, Newbottle
M: Robert Thompson 1843 in Houghton
F: Jane Thompson 1845 in Durham
It would appear William left farming and took up coal mining before the last 3 children were born.
John
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Hi Marie!
Just a newbie, i noticed that my ancestors are from Weardale too, Stanhope, Blackcleugh areas
back as far as 1570
Nattrass is the main name obvious various spellings but connected to this family are
Rippon
Pert (Peart)
Emerson
Bowman
Walton
Do you have any of these names
Look forward to your reply
Kind regards
Murray ::)
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Hi all,
Just come across this thread. I am descended from Stephensons, Emersons and Rutherfords up the dale.
Have a lot to do, following up on my mothers research.
Stanhope and Westgate areas as far as l can see.
Anyone else with these names, give me a shout. 😊