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Title: MARTIN Family
Post by: pacificmudman on Saturday 30 September 06 23:46 BST (UK)
Charles Martin married Elizabeth Seamor in abt 1827. Their children were  Charles born abt 1832, Julius born abt 1834, Robert born abt 1837 and William born abt 1842. Elizabeth died in abt 1844. Charles remarried Phoebe. Julius Martin was my gg grandfather and emigrated to Australia in 1856.
How can I find out if Julius's brothers were married and if they had families?
Title: Re: Martin
Post by: PaulineJ on Sunday 01 October 06 00:14 BST (UK)

You'll have to try and track then through census (assuming they did not emigrate too).

What towns/villages did these events take place in?

Pauline
Title: Re: Martin
Post by: welsh lady on Sunday 01 October 06 00:26 BST (UK)
Heres the family in 1841 and 1851.
1841 Stretham,Thetford,Isle of Ely,Cambs HO107/83/12.

Charles Martin,35,Ag Lab,Y.
Elizabeth Martin,30,Y.
Henry Martin,12,Y.
Edward Martin,11,Y.
Charles Martin,9,Y.
Julius Martin,6.Y
Robert Martin,4.Y.

1851 Fen,Swaffham Prior ,Cambs.
HO107 Piece 1762 Folio 241 Page 1.

Charles Martin,Head,49,Ag Lab,Barway? Cambs.
Phoebe Martin,Wife,44,Over Cambs.
Charles Martin,Son,19,Ag Lab,Isle of Ely,Thetford.Cambs
Julius Martin,Son,17,Ag Lab,Isle of Ely,Thetford.
Robert Martin,Son,14,Ag Lab,Isle of Ely,Thetford
William Martin,Son,9,Isle of Ely,Thetford.

Best Wishes Welsh Lady
Title: Re: Martin
Post by: welsh lady on Sunday 01 October 06 00:46 BST (UK)
Heres 2 of Julius brothers in 1861 .

Gedney,Gedney Drove End,Lincolnshire.
RG9 Piece 2328 Folio 40 Page 1.

Henry Martin,Head,31,Ag Lab,Thetford,Cambs.
Ann Martin,Wife,26,Bedford.
Charles Martin,Son,6,Gedney Marsh,Lincolnshire.
Hannah Martin,Dau,5,Gedney Marsh.
Julius Martin,Son,3,Gedney Marsh.
George Martin,Son,1,Gedney Marsh.
Emma Martin,Dau,1m,Gedney Marsh.
William Martin,Brother,19,Ag LabThetford,Cambs.

Best Wishes Welsh Lady

Title: Re: Martin
Post by: Cas (stallc) on Sunday 01 October 06 01:29 BST (UK)
This is a good poss for Edward.

1861 - RG9 Piece 1036 Folio 59 Page 12
  ??? farm, Soham Cambridgeshire 

 
Edward Martin 29 hd, m, ag lab, Isle of Ely, Thetford
Alice Martin 24 Isle of Ely, hardystill/nardystill?
John Charles Martin 3  Isle of Ely, hardystill

Cas
Title: Re: Martin
Post by: pacificmudman on Sunday 01 October 06 13:16 BST (UK)
Well this is fantastic - taking me a while to take it all in.

So for a start - you've found 2 more elder brothers - Henry and Edward!

And a family for Henry and his wife Ann - 5 children. Henry's youngest brother William making the journey North to Gedney Drove End and living with them.

A marriage for Edward  to Alice and a son.

a few questions - How long did the Census records continue?
                          - How can we verify records like Edward and Alice and son       John?

Thank you for going to the trouble of giving me this information - it seems with all these Martins we may have some other Martin rellies after all.

Mark
Title: Re: Martin
Post by: Cas (stallc) on Sunday 01 October 06 13:34 BST (UK)
Hi,

At present the census to date goes to 1901, you can search the 1881 census free on
http://www.familysearch.org/ you could also look for births/marriages/deaths there, but info needs to be verifyied as it is not always accurate by people who have submitted info.

To verify you can check http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ this will give you BMD info but some coverage is not complete yet. 

For marriages click on page number, and it will give you a list of poss spouses.  It will also give you the reference number to order the certificate from http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/home.asp if you want/ need it to verify parents/father etc. (This hobby can be expensive)

If you want to try trace the brothers in other census I would put up a request for each individually, with as much detail as poss. It can be confusing looking for a lot of separate peeps in same census years. 

Hope this helps

Cas
Title: Re: Martin
Post by: pacificmudman on Sunday 01 October 06 14:23 BST (UK)
Thanks for that - have started checking 1881 census and the info is there!
Seems I can start teasing out this tree.

Have been at this family tree thing for years now - from the Australian end with moderate success - yet to connect with any living Martin rellies but feel it is only a matter of tome - just realised that typo  but it sort of fits - the file is already several inches thick!

Thanks again Cas
Title: Re: Martin
Post by: Cas (stallc) on Sunday 01 October 06 14:31 BST (UK)
Hi Mark,

Just checked GenesReunited.co.uk and there seems to be a person call Patrica who has some of the Martin brothers in her tree.

I think you will have to join to see her tree and send a message.  I searched under 'Martin' born Thetford.

Could not remember all birth dates but Charles, Henry, Robert Julius and William are there. born 1820-40's

Worth checking

Good luck

Cas

Title: Re: Martin
Post by: pacificmudman on Sunday 01 October 06 14:45 BST (UK)
Hi Cas,

will check out GenesReunited.co.uk - hope it's not too expensive to join.

Is there a way to put out information (safely) - family tree etc. to elicit information. Others may have done a whole lot of work already. We could pool information /resources towards a common goal.

Make sense?

regards

Mark
Title: Re: Martin
Post by: Cas (stallc) on Sunday 01 October 06 14:48 BST (UK)
Genes have that.  I think it is between £7.50 - 10.00 to join there is also Ancestry world tree and another Tribalpages?, perhaps someone else will come up with others.

Cas  :)
Title: Re: Martin
Post by: Cas (stallc) on Sunday 01 October 06 15:00 BST (UK)
You may also find this useful in searching nearby places from Thetford.

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/CAM/

Cas
Title: Re: Martin
Post by: pacificmudman on Sunday 01 October 06 15:08 BST (UK)
tried genesunited ended up at ancestry.com who wanted lots of money.

will try for genesunited again tomorrow - bedtime here now

Thanks again

regards

mark
Title: Re: Martin
Post by: Cas (stallc) on Sunday 01 October 06 15:11 BST (UK)
Just to confirm it is genes re united.co.uk  All one word.

Cas
Title: Re: Martin
Post by: pacificmudman on Sunday 01 October 06 15:12 BST (UK)
Just saw your last post - you're great.

I can see lots of work in front of me.

It's all so tantalizing - I'm sure it's addictive.

regards

Mark
Title: Re: Martin
Post by: pacificmudman on Sunday 01 October 06 15:17 BST (UK)
HaHa -  genes united almost sounds like a football club. I was rushing as usual.

GenesReunited.com.uk - thanks
 
Mark
Title: Re: Martin
Post by: Cas (stallc) on Sunday 01 October 06 15:21 BST (UK)
Not com.uk

co.uk.  Here is the link

http://www.GenesReunited.co.uk/

I think your a lost cause like most of us FH addicts here...there is no escape, so run before your hooked... ::) opps see it already got ya!

Nite

Cas

Title: Re: Martin
Post by: pacificmudman on Monday 02 October 06 12:06 BST (UK)
checked out GenesReunited

seems their might be someone else with Julius martin in their family tree

Have coughed up my money and sent an email - now all I can do is wait - hope theirs is not too old a posting

Mark
Title: Re: Martin
Post by: Cas (stallc) on Tuesday 03 October 06 20:13 BST (UK)
Hope you get lucky with your family contacts, but they do not always reply  :(

Have you tried 'google'  with 'Martin family Cambridge', Andrew Martin from Cambridge has his tree online. 

Do not know if there is a connection, but worth a go, as he must have some research possibly on all Martin families there

good luck in your searches

Cas
Title: Re: Martin
Post by: pacificmudman on Tuesday 03 October 06 20:30 BST (UK)
Have googled Martin Family History Cambs. and have seen Andrew Martin's site- thanks

Have not had any response from GenesReunited connection.

regards

Mark
Title: Re: Martin
Post by: pacificmudman on Friday 06 October 06 07:38 BST (UK)
At last some success at GenesReunited although some replies are coming back blank - hope they can sort it out.

Made my first positive connection for Julius Martin of Thetford, Cambs.

Hope to make many more to fill out this tree.

Still haven't put my family tree on Genesunited - for some reason I'm somewhat hesitant in putting all this information out - thinking maybe just my direct line to Julius.

Is the information in the larger tree really mine to give out?


Mark Martin
Title: Re: Martin
Post by: bedfordshire boy on Friday 06 October 06 08:04 BST (UK)
Yes, the information in your larger tree is yours to give out, unless you have detail which could be regarded as subject to copyright - but basic details of BMDs which are in the public domain are OK. However I would NEVER include/give out details of living people, even to a close relative. But be prepared to see your tree "lifted" and added to other peoples trees. If that doesn't bother you, so well and good.

Andrew Martin is a contributor on this board

Regards

David
Title: Re: Martin
Post by: pacificmudman on Saturday 07 October 06 23:20 BST (UK)
Thanks for that David. Wise advice.

I'm just taking things cautiuosly for the moment.

And with a common surname like Martin one wonders whether there will ever be a 'genuine' connection made. Often end up with US information thrown up after entering a search - like 158 Julius Martins!! - it's a real head spin that one.

The good news is I've made two real connections for my Julius Martin now. One in England and one in Australia. The tree is filling out.

much patience needed

regards

Mark Martin
Title: Re: Martin
Post by: pacificmudman on Sunday 08 October 06 04:33 BST (UK)
Seems my Martin family were leaving Cambridgeshire in droves (poss. exaggeration) in the middle and late 1800s - any clues as to why this was the case?

regards

Mark Martin
Title: Re: Martin
Post by: AndrewMartin on Thursday 12 October 06 13:03 BST (UK)
Have googled Martin Family History Cambs. and have seen Andrew Martin's site- thanks

Have not had any response from GenesReunited connection.

regards

Mark

~cue Andrew~

hello, i've just stumbled across this thread. very interesting indeed.

Here's a baptism that may help - as yet, i havent found a Little Thetford connection to my Little Downham/CoveneyMartin branch (although a few of my maternal families lived in that village).

Stretham Burials:
20th February 1841: William MARTIN (1yrs, from Lt Thetford)

regards
Title: Re: MARTIN Family
Post by: pacificmudman on Friday 13 October 06 12:31 BST (UK)
Well hello Andrew,

Did look at your (impressive) site and concluded no connection so did not bother you with my Martins of Cambridgeshire.

Even so you have now certainly raised my eyebrows with your tantalizing morsel!

This may be evidence of a child of my 3g grandparents Charles and Elizabeth Martin. And perhaps what makes this even more likely is that there is another child of Charles and Elizabeth born 1842 named William. He is the youngest sibling of my aforementioned gg grandfather Julius Martin who emigrated to Australia in 1856.

Thank you for that.

A few questions for you Andrew.

Where did you find this info?

Do you think it would be possible to obtain a death certificate for this young child?

Why where people leaving Cambridgeshire at this time?

You live in Cambs?

Had great success these last few days linking several parts of my Martin tree - from Patricia in England and Wes and Lynne in Sydney Australia.

It's all marvellous stuff.

Cheers

Mark Martin
Title: Re: MARTIN Family
Post by: AndrewMartin on Friday 13 October 06 16:13 BST (UK)
Well hello Andrew,

hello :)

Did look at your (impressive) site and concluded no connection so did not bother you with my Martins of Cambridgeshire.

Thanks. I admit that i have yet to find a crossover between my Martins and the Little Thetford lot despite them being only a few miles from eachother.

Even so you have now certainly raised my eyebrows with your tantalizing morsel!

This may be evidence of a child of my 3g grandparents Charles and Elizabeth Martin. And perhaps what makes this even more likely is that there is another child of Charles and Elizabeth born 1842 named William. He is the youngest sibling of my aforementioned gg grandfather Julius Martin who emigrated to Australia in 1856.

Thank you for that.

no worries. When a child died, their next child (sometimes already in production) would just take the same name if it was of the same sex.

A few questions for you Andrew.

Where did you find this info?

Do you think it would be possible to obtain a death certificate for this young child?

Why where people leaving Cambridgeshire at this time?

You live in Cambs?

I found the info in the Stretham Parish Register for Burials which is available in the Cambridgeshire General Records Office at Shire Hall, Cambridge. They are exceptionally helpful and knowledgeable there and i really do recommend emailing or writing to them if you're unable to visit.

There were many people leaving the country during the mid 1800s and a lot of these were to the new 'promise land' of Australia. A number of my CROSS family members emigrated in the 1850s to Australia where they bought land, built houses and ended up with areas named after them. Bear in mind too though, that criminals were also sent off to Australia (and America) from this country. However, im sure that passenger records of ships leaving the UK would provide you with a lot of interesting information.. including whether any were born/married or died in transit.

Yes, i am from Cambridgeshire and up until 3 weeks ago i lived right near the records office. I am currently on the Cambridgeshire/Suffolk border near Newmarket.
Title: Re: MARTIN Family
Post by: AndrewMartin on Friday 13 October 06 16:30 BST (UK)
Charles Martin married Elizabeth Seamor in abt 1827.

This is correct. I dont have the exact date for some reason in my notes but i do have their marriage at Little Thetford in 1827.

Our genealogy friends at www.familysearch.org (http://www.familysearch.org) shows that they married in 1827 and again, no exact date, perhaps this wasnt recorded in the register (it seems funny to me that both I and them have no exact date listed but reassures me that it wasnt just me with dodgy research note taking). It goes on to note that Charles was born in about 1802 and that Elizabeth was born in about 1806, BOTH in Little Thetford.

Hope this helps.
Title: Re: MARTIN Family
Post by: pacificmudman on Saturday 14 October 06 07:57 BST (UK)
Hi Andrew,

Thanks for that.

You're right, Julius Martin emigrated to Australia on an assisted passage - 1 pound .Julius was illiterate and cited his religion as Church of England. Julius made his way to Wollongong just south of Sydney.  Wollongong must have been a most beautiful place at that time - coastal with good rainfall and a temperate climate.
Julius continued his life as an agricultural labourer and married Sarah McKenzie (the daughter of Scottish immigrants) in 1859. They lived on a farm at American Creek and farmed the rich alluvial soils there.

Back to young William Martin - you mentioned a burial register - are there cemetries in Cambs. with burials of Martins dating back to 1840s and before ? and where would they be if the burial register is in Stretham Parish?

thanks

Mark Martin



Title: Re: MARTIN Family
Post by: AndrewMartin on Saturday 14 October 06 10:09 BST (UK)
Hi Andrew,

Back to young William Martin - you mentioned a burial register - are there cemetries in Cambs. with burials of Martins dating back to 1840s and before ? and where would they be if the burial register is in Stretham Parish?

Back to young William Martin - you mentioned a burial register - are there cemetries in Cambs. with burials of Martins dating back to 1840s and before ? and where would they be if the burial register is in Stretham Parish?

Yes there are a number of cemeteries in Cambridgeshire, used when the parish churchyards have filled up. The Stretham churchyard is packed with headstones although it is unlikely that young William would have been given such a grand (and expensive) memorial as that. The oldest headstones i've spotted have been the mid to late 1700s but they are far and few between and most of the really old ones can be quite weathered and hard to read.

As for Stretham, the parish register of burials (as well as ones for christenings, baptisms and marriages) from around this time will be kept at the Cambridge based County Records Office at Shire Hall in Cambridge. Below is a link that explains what they do and also contact details - they are very helpful :)

http://www.cambridgeshire.gov.uk/leisure/archives/visiting/crocambridge.htm

Title: Re: MARTIN Family
Post by: pacificmudman on Saturday 14 October 06 22:24 BST (UK)
Thanks for that Andrew.

Checked out the link - The archives contain 20 million items!

Not quite sure where to start - might see if I can access early (1800-1850) maps of the area.

cheers

Mark Martin
Title: Re: MARTIN Family
Post by: Hunnyb22 on Friday 27 October 06 01:40 BST (UK)
Hi Mark...I hope this doesn't confuse you but there were a lot of Martins in the Isle of Ely, my paternal family were Martins from the Wardy Hill, Coveney area. And yes, my great grandfather was also called Charles Martin (b.1825).

1871
RG10/1603 folio 75B
Wardyhill, Coveney
Charles Martin head marr 45 ag lab
Elizabeth Martin (nee Houghton) wife 43
Mary Martin dau unmarr 21 ag lab
Elizabeth Martin dau 15 ag lab
Charles Martin son 13 ag lab
Emma Martin dau 11 scholar
James Martin son 9 ag lab
Benjamin Martin son 7 scholar
Joseph Martin (my grandfather) son 5 scholar
Eliza Jane Martin dau 3
Sarah Martin dau 11 mths
All born Wardyhill

I'm not saying there's a connection to your family, but you never know. If there is a connection, I've traced my Martin family back to 1694, I have a lot of information if you need it.

Hunnyb22
Title: Re: MARTIN Family
Post by: pacificmudman on Friday 27 October 06 06:17 BST (UK)
Hi Hunny,

Thanks for that

Yes - I'm easily confused ! - it is quite possible that our Martins are connected - Wardy Hill and Little Thetford being not too far apart (approx. 6 - 7 kms ?) -  how do we find out?

My 3g grandfather Charles Martin I believe was born in Barway which is quite close to Little Thetford. Ring any bells for you?

regards

Mark Martin
Title: Re: MARTIN Family
Post by: AndrewMartin on Friday 27 October 06 08:41 BST (UK)
There's also quite a few Martins in Soham, which is much closer to Barway than Wardy Hill is.

The Martins that Hunny has just listed are part of my Martin family

http://www.familytreeuk.co.uk/Martin
Title: Re: MARTIN Family
Post by: pacificmudman on Friday 27 October 06 12:01 BST (UK)
Thanks Andrew

Mark
Title: Re: MARTIN Family
Post by: Hunnyb22 on Friday 27 October 06 13:27 BST (UK)
Hi Again Andrew, Chris here...It could be that Mark is related to us as our great, great grandparents were James Martin (1784- 1856) and Mary Waters (1785-1869) and together they had twelve known children. With your help, I was able to go back to 1694, but would love to go back even further.

If Mark is related, I would be happy to give more information into the Martin family as I have built a whole database on them. I still haven't finished building my webpage yet though.

Kind regards
Chris.

Title: Re: MARTIN Family
Post by: pacificmudman on Friday 27 October 06 21:17 BST (UK)
Hi Hunny,

My 3g grandfather was Charles Martin born about 1805 - is Charles a son of your James Martin and Mary Waters ?

regards

Mark Martin
Title: Re: MARTIN Family
Post by: pacificmudman on Friday 27 October 06 21:26 BST (UK)
I've just answered my own question by checking Andrew Martin's tree.
It appears from Andrews' tree Charles is not the son of James and Mary.

Mark Martin
Title: Re: MARTIN Family
Post by: Hunnyb22 on Friday 27 October 06 23:17 BST (UK)
Hi Mark...Oh well, it was worth a try. As Martin is such a common name we can't all expect to be related can we?

Good luck with your search.

Kind regards
Hunnyb22
Title: Re: MARTIN Family
Post by: pacificmudman on Friday 27 October 06 23:50 BST (UK)
Hi again Hunny,

There may well be a connection - but further back !

regards

Mark Martin
Title: Re: MARTIN Family
Post by: jeffpmartin on Tuesday 02 January 07 22:02 GMT (UK)
Hi everyone,

Just thought I'd say hello, and to ask if any of you have any know connections to the Martin family from Ashen. I am trying to find out where my branch originally came from, but as yet I havn't made it to the records office.

My GGG Grandfather was John Martin (!) born c 1803. I have no sibling info, and I would love to know more.

Regards

Jeff
Title: Re: MARTIN Family
Post by: Hunnyb22 on Tuesday 02 January 07 23:38 GMT (UK)
Hi everyone,

Just thought I'd say hello, and to ask if any of you have any know connections to the Martin family from Ashen. I am trying to find out where my branch originally came from, but as yet I havn't made it to the records office.

My GGG Grandfather was John Martin (!) born c 1803. I have no sibling info, and I would love to know more.

Regards

Jeff

Hi Jeff...I have a John Martin in my family tree born 1806 in Ely, Cambridgeshire. His family details are as follows:

James Martin 1784-1856
Mary Martin (nee Waters) 1785-1869
Mary Martin 1805
John Martin 1806
Ann Martin 1807
James Martin 1809
Elizabeth Martin 1811
James Martin 1814-1868
Martha Martin 1816
Robert Martin 1818
William Martin 1820
Jane Martin 1823
Charles Martin 1825-1900 (my great grandfather)
Thomas Martin 1828

Please note that the first James would have died in infancy or quite young and they would want a son to carry the father's name.

Hope this is of some use to you and you find a connection, if not, happy searching.

Kind regards
Hunnyb22

Title: Re: MARTIN Family
Post by: jeffpmartin on Wednesday 03 January 07 12:40 GMT (UK)
Hmm impossible to know unfortunately.

I believe his mother's surname was Mayes, as this (apparently) was his middle name.
I will keep looking!

Thanks

Jeff
Title: Re: MARTIN Family
Post by: Llewella on Saturday 04 October 08 12:05 BST (UK)
Hi There, I have just found this sight and I am related to your Martins. Mine start with Henry and Ann with the siblings starting with charles 1854 through to Mary 1877. Would love to hear from you.  Llew.
Title: Re: MARTIN Family
Post by: pacificmudman on Saturday 04 October 08 13:01 BST (UK)
Hi Llew,

You can email me at (*)

look forward to hearing from you - the Martin connections continue to grow

cheers

Mark Martin



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Title: Re: MARTIN Family
Post by: AndrewMartin on Friday 16 January 09 13:12 GMT (UK)
I ended up diverting my Martin branch when i went back through my notes and compared it with some 'new' records. Whilst the Martin people that I had taken as my own ancestors, turn out NOT to be the right people; the correct ancestors are related to them anyway!  :-[

My 'surrogate' ancestors being James Martin and his wife Mary Waters are now replaced with Robert Martin and Avis Tall.

Go back about 2 generations on both James and Robert's ancestors, and it appears to link them together with James Martyn and Jane Hescue (his second wife i believe).

Fortunately the CFHS www.cfhs.org.uk (http://www.cfhs.org.uk) has just released a CDrom of the Coveney parish registers, which should hold the answer to the puzzle. Even though i've looked through the register a few times at the Cambridge archives, i'll be able to be more thorough in my peruse through the cdrom.

Title: Re: MARTIN Family
Post by: pacificmudman on Friday 16 January 09 21:33 GMT (UK)
Great to hear from you Andrew.

The twists and turns of genealogy !

Have made several Martin connections over the past couple of years. It seems the Cambridgeshire Martins and their descendants moved to many parts of England and two (at least ) branches moved to Australia.

Good luck with the further refinement of your tree. Keep me posted.

Very frustrating this Martin name at times - Why couldn't we have something a little less common like, say  Nitram !

cheers

Mark Martin
Pacific Palms
Australia
Title: Re: MARTIN Family
Post by: Hunnyb22 on Friday 16 January 09 23:20 GMT (UK)
Hi Mark...I'm also a descendant of the Cambridgeshire Martins, loosely related to Andrew going back to James Martin (b.1694) and Jane Hescue (b.1698). If you don't mind me asking, what connection do you have to the Martin family tree?

Yes, Martin is a very common name isn't it, no wonder we hit a brick wall from time to time.

Look forward to hearing from you.

Kind regards
Chris Butler (nee Martin)
Title: Re: MARTIN Family
Post by: Nick29 on Sunday 18 January 09 17:35 GMT (UK)
Most of us Martins (I'm one too !) hail from the Norman Invasion.  Martin is the most common name in France.  The closer you go to Dover, the more numerous they become, although you find them all over.  I'm a Cambridgeshire Martin, but I come from London.

Title: Re: MARTIN Family
Post by: Hunnyb22 on Sunday 18 January 09 19:44 GMT (UK)
Hi Nick...So, what branch of the Martin tree are you from? My family go back to James Martin (1694) and Jane Hescue (1698).
my gr grandparents were Charles Martin (1826-1900) and Elizabeth Houghton (1869-1883)

I'm from Hull but dad's (1907-1974) family came here from Coveney, Cambs around 1870 as grandad's (1866-1933)younger siblings were born here.

Since starting this family tree I've discovered Martins I never knew existed. My brother is also doing a family tree and we've swapped information.

Kind regards
Chris Butler (nee Martin)
Title: Re: MARTIN Family
Post by: Nick29 on Sunday 18 January 09 22:06 GMT (UK)
I'm not entirely sure - I'm stuck at my g.g. grandfather William Martin b. abt 1805 in "Middlesex, London".  Most of my Martins seem to be bricklayers  :)
Title: Re: MARTIN Family
Post by: akka on Sunday 18 January 09 22:21 GMT (UK)
My dads name was James Andrew Martin his father was Thomas  ?  Martin I have just started the journey we are in Australia so there is a lot of searching to do I am sure they came from England but I dont know when or where
Title: Re: MARTIN Family
Post by: Nick29 on Monday 19 January 09 09:38 GMT (UK)
I culled this from the internet......

Rankings of the surname Martin

France: 1st most popular
Canada: 4th most popular
Australia: 9th most popular
Spain: 9th most popular
United States: 16th most popular
Argentina: 26th most popular
England & Wales: 28th most popular
Belgium: 31st most popular
Scotland: 37th most popular


Title: Re: MARTIN Family
Post by: akka on Monday 19 January 09 09:52 GMT (UK)
any Smiths in France looks like a lot of detective work ahead
Title: Re: MARTIN Family
Post by: Nick29 on Monday 19 January 09 09:58 GMT (UK)
I read somewhere that the French Martins are all descended from Saint Martin.  A large proportion of French villages have "St. Martin" at the end of their name.

I always wondered where my halo came from !   ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: MARTIN Family
Post by: Hunnyb22 on Monday 19 January 09 13:46 GMT (UK)
Hi...Wouldn't it be great to be related to royalty? As long as they don't have a reputation like Attilla the Hun but someone like King Arthur? Maybe we do but haven't researched back far enough?


Here is a list of the families connected to my Martin branch:
Martin
Hescue
Morlin
Waters
Houghton (different families, different generations)
Knott
Walker
Egan
Jackson
Dennison
Clark
Dunne
Dukes
Butler


 
Title: Re: MARTIN Family
Post by: Nick29 on Monday 19 January 09 16:43 GMT (UK)
Hi...Wouldn't it be great to be related to royalty?

Well, for a couple of days last year I thought I was.  I got two couples with identical names and birth dates and living only 20 miles apart mixed up, and bingo! I was related to all the royals, Will Shakespeare, Adam & Eve, you name them, I was related to them.  Then a fellow Roots Chat member brought me back to earth with a thud, when he pointed out the error.  Fortunately by then I had not ordered the ermine robes  ;D

It taught me a valuable lesson - don't believe what you'd like to believe, always check and double check.  Still, I am related to a few famous Americans, but only by marriage, which I have checked out.

Title: Re: MARTIN Family
Post by: aekent on Sunday 26 February 12 05:55 GMT (UK)
It seems that everybody is stuck at James Martin and Jane Hescue, right? 

James Martin (1665 - 1749) is my 7th great grandfather

Philip Martin (1727 - ) Son of James

John Martin (1754 - ) Son of Philip

James Martin (1785 - 1856) Son of John

Mary Martin (1805 - 1861) Daughter of James

William Kent (1841 - 1927) Son of Mary

Fred Ray Kent (1887 - 1925) Son of William

Raymond Edward Kent (1911 - 1977) Son of Fred Ray

* (1947 - ) Son of Raymond Edward

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Title: Re: MARTIN Family
Post by: Nick29 on Sunday 26 February 12 10:27 GMT (UK)
It seems that everybody is stuck at James Martin and Jane Hescue, right? 



Err, no ?   ???
Title: Re: MARTIN Family
Post by: GKMart on Monday 17 February 14 23:44 GMT (UK)
17 Feb 2014

Mark,
I am very pleased to find your Martin Family blog on RootsChat.  You and I are related.  I'm sure my gg Grandfather Henry is your gg Grandfather Julius' brother.  All the dates and locations fit perfectly. 

My lineage is... gg Grandfather - Henry (dob 1 Aug 1829), g grandfather - Harry (dob 11 Apr 1865), grandfather - Cladus, father - Ked. 

I also see you live in Australia.  My sister, who is the real family genealogist will be in Brisbane in early March.  I am hoping you can help her extend our family tree to Julius' lineage.

All we know about Julius comes from my grandfather Cladus' oral history.  I've typed an excerpt below.

I hope you get this fairly soon, but I see you haven't posted to RootsChat in several years.

Best Wishes,
GKMart
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The Martin Family
Henry Martin was born in Gedney, Lincolnshire, England on 1 August, 1829.  Henry was a superintendent of royal estates on the east coast of England and supervised the farming population.  Half of the house was set up as a commissary.  One of his jobs was to go into the commissary and get one gallon of beer for the family's every meal.  Henry's brothers did not stay in England.  One [Julius?] went to Australia, making his fortune raising sheep.  He later had a catle ranch in Alberta, Canada.  Charles and William came to Michigan around the Civil War.  [and so on...]

Title: Re: MARTIN Family
Post by: GKMart on Tuesday 18 February 14 17:02 GMT (UK)
I'm looking for any information on the branch of this Lincolnshire branch of the Martin family.

(1)Charles Martin married (2)Elizabeth Seamor in abt 1827. Their children were (3)Henry born on 1 Aug 1829, (4)Charles born abt 1832, (5)Julius born abt 1834, (6)Robert born abt 1837 and (7)William born abt 1842.  I also believe there is a son (8)George.

I am related to (3)Henry, who lived in Gedney, Lincolnshire, and was married to (9)Sarah (Ann?) Burton.  They had 12 children: (10)William-1854, (11)Hannah-1856, (12)Julius-1857, (13)George-1859, (14)Emma-1861, (15)Harry-1865, (16)Minnie-1867, (17)Flora-1870, (18)James-1871, (19)Tom-1872, (20)Edward-1875, and (21)Mary-1877.

Of the (1)Charles' children (5)Julius went to Australia in 1856, while (4)Charles and (7)William came to Michigan around the Civil War.  (8)George came to Michigan later.

I am related to (1)Charles' grandchild (15)Harry, (3)Henry's son, who came to America in 1885 to Richland, Michigan, where he first worked for his Uncle (7)William, then his Uncle (8)Charles.  (14)Emma, (11)Hannah, (21)Mary and (16)Minnie also "came over". 

My gg Grandfather (15)Harry died in Galesburg, Michigan, May 1948, age 78 years.

Thanks for any help you may give to extend this family tree.

Title: Re: MARTIN Family
Post by: pacificmudman on Saturday 26 April 14 00:50 BST (UK)
Hi GKMart,

With your information it appears my suspicions regarding Martin connections making their way to the US were not unfounded.

I recently received my DNA results which indicated Martin relatives in the US.

The descendants of Julius Martin now number several hundred in Australia.

I have a Martin Family Australia website under construction.

Would be happy to share info.

regards

Mark Martin

Title: Re: MARTIN Family
Post by: pacificmudman on Saturday 26 April 14 00:52 BST (UK)
If any Martin connections would like more information on the Martin family in Australia please personal message me.

Mark Martin