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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Sussex => England => Sussex Lookup Requests => Topic started by: dawnwas on Saturday 30 September 06 13:41 BST (UK)
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Any help with tracking down James Atterall's birthdate and parentage please.He was sentenced to transportation from Lewes assizes 1834 JAN and he was 17 then,a baker and son of a baker.
many thank's dawn
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Dawn, you don't seem to be having much luck with this :( Try Historical Directories http://www.historicaldirectories.org/ to see if you can find a baker in the area who might be James's father.
jane
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Hi Jane.
yes it is a bit frustrating :(
The James Atterall I am trying to find out about,we think is linked to the Arthrell line UK.I am having trouble pinpointing exactly where and when he was born,and thus cannot try to link the two spellings together.I will try the link you suggested ::)Fingers crossed.
My Grandad who died in 1965 aged 85,used to say that there was a "wrong-un" in the family who was hanged in australia....I just wish someone had questioned him further!!!!!!!
Cheers dawn
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Ideally you might find detailed information about his offence in a newspaper of that time, but I know that's difficult for you. Did you quiz Chris 1066land and/or Amy on this?
jane
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Hi Dawn,
Slight problem with this - he was sentenced at the Lewes Quarter Sessions and listed as a resident there, but he may not have been a native of Lewes. :( I've looked in an 1823 directory and one dated 1832-4 and there are no bakers listed with the name Atterall or similar. However, that does not mean that his father was not a baker there, just did not run his own business or submit an entry into the directory.
At the moment I can't find a James Atterall baptised around 1817 - there is one in 1820 but that seems a bit too far out and it was in Brighton.
Nell
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Dear Nell...thankyou for your help and for looking into the directories for me. I have had trouble finding mention of the Atterall name other than finding a George aged 78 who was charged at tonbridge petty sessions court 1882 for attempted suicide!bit frustrating not being able to find a start point....but then that's what family research is all about isn't it ::)
Jane masri suggested that I ask for help from Chris 1066land..so that will be my next move 8)
Thankyou again
dawn
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P.S. Nel...me again ;)
When you said there was a James Atterall Brigton,would that still be Sussex...and would a baptism of 1820 possibly fit if he was not baptised as a young baby but a toddler?...I know...clutching at straws :P
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Hi there
Have as yet not been able to find any info on your James Atterall, but did come aceoss this
Sussex Marriage :
Location: Lewes All Saints, East Sussex, Date: 4 Jan 1818:
Groom: John ATTRILL, of All Saints
Bride: Sarah LEOCK, of All Saints
Married by Bnns.
Keep it on the back burner, it could be his parents
Chris in 1066
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Hi Dawn,
Well you never know when a straw may just be of use!
This is the baptism - it is the only one on Sussex that I have found at the moment (but there may be others)
James Attrill baptised 3 Sep 1820 Brighton, parents James and Anne Attrill
There are a large number of Attrills on the Isle of Wight.
Nell
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Wow what a team...and yes , I will never look at straws in the same light again! ;D
thankyou chris 1066 and little Nell for the help....better to have a few possible links than none at all.I now live in Australia ( for the past 16 years) but loved to visit Brighton and even managed a trip to lewes...all so far away now...so many thank's again for your help and interest ,thus far :)
Dawn
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Hi Dawn
I was just wandering in the sussex page and your query sparked my interest for the mention of Lewes. (4xgr/grandad) I don't know where in Australia you are, but if you're in Nsw, you could look up the shipping and bdm indexes. I found a Henry Athrell died 1881 Sydney, numerous Attrills (mostly girls!) b. in NSW and a John Attrell arrived 1842 on the Samuel Boddngton (reel 2144 p 192)
I got my best clues for my lot through the shipping records of assisted immigrants because they show parents names (if they were alive!).
You may be well ahead of me here, but if not, I hope this can help
Laele
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I assume you have seen the detailed account of his second trial in Tasmania? It is reported under "Decisions of the Nineteenth Century Tasmanian Superior Courts (Published by the Division of Law, Macquarie University and the School of History and Classics, University of Tasmania) and can be accessed at:
http://www.law.mq.edu.au/sctas/html/1838cases/RvRegan,1838.htm
Kind regards
Philip Candy
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Dear Candy and laele and anyone that has helped and not been thanked! ( trouble with a new computer :(,so have been away from the site for ages)
Philcandy...I will see if your info tells me anything new..many thanks :D
Iaele....now I have to see how these individuals fit into what I have already got...thank goodness for xmas holidays eh? :D
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Hi,
My cousin Lyn went to Oz recently and came back with a whole load of documents relating to James's transportation and execution which I can dig out and send if you want. Hard to find him in Lewes, but I've got bits on that too... somewhere...
Also last week, in the rain, but before our heavy snow, I drove the 10 miles from here to Fletching to see my direct gt.gt.gt. grandfather Daniel Hattrell's grave; he fought at Waterloo and I've got quite a bit on him now since discovering the link a fortnight ago.
..Attrell..Hattrell..Atherall, etc seem to be the variants these poor illiterates (Daniel was) used to go by. My side of the family (i was born in Brighton & mum was an Attrell) seem to spring from Isfield/Fletching/Lewes.. all close to me now.
John Richardson