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I have 2 death certs for 1927 & 1938 given the address as 76 Eridge Road, although the deceased lived elsewhere in Croydon.
In the current A-Z Eridge Rd is not listed in Croydon.
Does anyone know where this road was?
Or maybe know if it was some kind of
hospital maybe.
Thanks for any help
Sue
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On the historical directories http://www.historicaldirectories.org/ website. Eridge Road is appearing on a Kelly's directory of 1913 as being in Thornton Heath part of Croydon.
Hope this helps
Carol
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Ahhhh I've just googled it and found that the road that is now Meadow View Road used to be called Eridge Road till about 1939.
Carol
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http://www.streetmap.co.uk and enter Meadow View Road.
I think the Mayday Hospital is the answer you need ;D
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It appears to have been an infirmary for the Croydon Union Workhouse until c1930
http://users.ox.ac.uk/~peter/workhouse/
Casalguidi
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Many thanks Carol & Casalguidi
That mystery solved ;D
Sue
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Hi,
I was doing a search on "76 Eridge Road" - re I just received my Grandfathers Birth Certificate and
76 Eridge Road he was born at and lived at 1913.... I was a little shocked when my search actually
can up with something. I'm unsure when they no longer lived at this address, there name was
"MEDLOCK". What did your search come up with ??
My grandfathers birth certificate said 76 Eridge Road , Thornton Heath.
?? Deaths ??
Looking forward to your response/
Duckie ??? :o
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Hi Duckie
Eridge Road used to run along side of the
Croydon Union Infirmary, now named
Mayday Hospital.
Sue
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Hi Sue. I have just been trying to find any links to Eridge Road Croydon and saw your entry regarding No. 76 Eridge Road. I have a photograph of my Mother and Grandmother at the gate of their home (where I was born) and on the back it says:-
1931 86 Woodcroft Road, Formerley 31 Eridge Road Thornton Heath.
Woodcroft Road runs adjacent to the old entrance of Mayday Hospital (by the Chapel of Rest). I have been trying to find out why the Eridge Road name changed to Woodcroft Road, but have been unsuccessful thus far.
I hope that this helps you.
Regards, Ron
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Hello Ron,
I was in London last weekend, & happened to drive pass the hospital.
(I see there's been some changes to the front of the hospital)
I wonder why they wrote on death certs the address & not the actual name of the hospital!
Thanks for your feed-back.
Sue
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Hi Sue
This was common practise in the latter years of the workhouse system ie. the Elham Union at Lyminge in Kent was latterly known as Hill House, Lyminge. To try and lessen the stigma of the workhouse I suppose.
Casalguidi
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Sue, I have found out a little more.
76 Eridge Road was the Workhouse Infirmary and the address was changed to No. 39 Woodcroft Road in November 1939 (there's an entry in the Council minutes in September of the previous year apparently). Eridge Road was renamed Woodcroft/Frant Roads in 1939 (exist today) and the houses were renumbered at the same time.
No definitive answer yet as to why the change of name to Mayday Hospital and I need to find out if this also occured in 1939 (I expect this is the case, Mayday, Mayday...., Also.... start of the 2nd World War 1939, - No. 39 Eridge.... coincidence or planning?).
With respect to the name change to Eridge Road, there is some suggestion that it could have been to avoid confusion with Edridge Road which is also in the Croydon area (near the flyover and The Town Hall !) - I must admit that I wondered this as I knew of Edridge Road before I saw my family photo mentioning 31 Eridge Road / 86 Woodcroft Road.
Well that's it for now - I wonder if you drove past the old entrance in Woodcroft Road, opposite Jamaica Road - the old building is quite distinctive.
Regards, Ron
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To add to previous replies,I quote from 2 publications.
London Metropolitan Archives.Information leaflet No.26.
Poor Law records in London and Middlesex.Register of Births.
"After 1904 a birth certificate should not state that a birth took place in a workhouse giving instead the street and number as the place of birth,for instance,4 Kings Road,St.Pancras,instead of St.Pancras Workhouse.Alternatively a euphemistic name might be used such as Twyford Lodge for Willesden Workhouse Infirmary or The Lodge,Bancroft Road,for Mile End Workhouse."
This certainly also covered deaths within the workhouse,and other institutions.
From "Old & New Croydon Illustrated,May 1894".
Croydon Union Workhouse & Infirmary.
"In 1727 the first Union Workhouse,with Infirmary attached,was erected in Croydon.The building was situated on Duppas Hill,and provided accommodation for 200 persons.The present commodious buildings in Queen's Road,near the Cemetery,were opened in October,1865,and the inmates removed from the Duppas Hill institution,the whole of the premises being utilised as an infirmary until May,1885,when the new Infirmary in the Mayday Road,close to the new Union Workhouse,was opened by the Archbishop of Canterbury."
This article indicates that Mayday Road pre-dates the naming of the Hospital.
Hope this helps.
Dave.
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Some interesting information coming out folks.
I've received some more information on the infirmary/Mayday Hospital. This came from the Croydon Local Studies, Library & Archives Service, Central Library, Katharine Street, Croydon CR9 1ET. Some of this we've already identifield. Information follows:-
"In reply to your enquiry, the new infirmary in Mayday Road opened in 1885, with 325 beds. The Infirmary was renamed Mayday Road Hospital in 1923 but soon afterwards became known as Mayday Hospital. This was before the dissolution of the Board of Guardians in 1930.
On maps of 1851 Mayday appears as a short footpath of that name but there is no evidence of a Maypole having been in the vicinity."
So, it's amazing what has developed from the original enquiry - please add this to all the other facts.
Regards, Ron
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Hello,
This is very interesting as this address has cropped up in my research and Iam hoping someone may be able to help me.
I have the address 76 Eridge road on a birth certificate from 1928 but a different address for where they lived. Would the mother have been in the workhouse long or could she have come here just to have the baby?
Thank you.
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It's the Croydon Union Workhouse. They may still have admission records for you to view,
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That's fab, I will investigate further. :)
Thank you.
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Hi mrstar
For Croydon workhouse records you need to contact Croydon local studies library.
http://www.croydononline.org/history/places/lslibrary.asp
You can also find information on Croydon workhouse on this website
http://www.workhouses.org.uk/
Regards
Valda
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Just got my Ggggg Grandfathers death certificate through today, same address, so thank you from another happy researcher ;D
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I also have an ancestor Edward Green who died here in 1929 aged 90 years old... I was googling his death address, as I also had two addressess on the death certificate..
Couldn't believe my luck when this post came up.....
Thank you to everyone who was contributed with information here.....
dottie
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I too have the same address on a birth certificate received today for a birth in 1908.
The birth address is 76 Eridge Road, and the mother is shown as a domestic servant at 9 Naseby Road, Upper Norwood. No father's name appears for the baby though.
Does anyone know when official adoptions came into being in the uk at all? This child travelled to Australia in 1912 by a different surname, and she has been my brick wall for a number of years!
Thanks everyone for answers to questions, and I too found this site from a Google for 76 Eridge Road, so feel very lucky that others were also looking for it. Thanks again and kind regards to all from Carley
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Hi Carley
Official adoptions began in 1927
Regards
Valda
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Thank you Valda, very much appreciated. Regards from Carley
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I have received a birth cert for a lady born at 60 Eridge road, and her mother a dom sev elsewhere. Can I assume that 60 was part of the same row of buildings?
The informant though was Reginald W Wilson, who I have found to be the Infirmaries Superintendant.
Why would this be, 4 weeks after the birth? Would the mother have been ill? She too was a lone parent and in 1911 they were living with someone else and the child took his name.
I want to know why she had not registered her herself? could she have been too ill and if so will there be records?
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Hi everyone! Googled, as you do, 76 Eridge Road, Croydon looking for my mother's birthplace, (5th June 1934) but it seems this was a euphemism for the workhouse infirmary - is this true? And if it is, does that mean my grandmother, Mary Anne O'regan (or Parsons, or even maiden name Johnson) would have been a resident, or was this used as a hospital for locals? And if she was, are their any records still held? Actually, I'm trying to trace my mother's real father, given as John Parsons, according to her birth certificate who worked at the Omnibus Garage and lived at 34 Fairholme Rd, Croydon. I don't think they were actually married though...can anyone help me through the mire?! Thanks, Dom.
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Hi yaska
Welcome to Rootschat
Like many workhouse union infirmaries
'The hospital joined the National Health Service in 1948, and now operates as the Mayday Hospital. Many of the original infirmary structures survive.'
http://www.workhouses.org.uk/
Mayday Hospital is the main hospital in Croydon.
See my previous post for the link to Croydon local studies library where Croydon workhouse and infirmary records are held.
Regards
Valda
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Thanks for that Valda. My mother was born in 1934. Would her mother had to have been living there in the workhouse? I'll follow up the links you suggested. Many thanks!!!! Dom
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Hi yaska
'The hospital joined the National Health Service in 1948, and now operates as the Mayday Hospital. Many of the original infirmary structures survive.'
i.e. Croydon union workhouse infirmary was the then main 'hospital' for everyone in Croydon. That was the situation far fewer hospitals (and mostly in the main cities) and many many more local workhouse infirmaries. With the coming of The National Health service many of those workhouse infirmaries were just renamed hospitals because that was what they actually were anyway
http://www.nhshistory.net/poor_law_infirmaries.htm
'The infirmary should be separated from the rest of the workhouse and under independent management, and that the treatment of sick paupers should be carried out under different principles from those to which the able-bodied were subject'.
The able bodied in the worhouse that is. Being treated in the infirmary does not presume someone was in the workhouse. If you think of the cost of medical treatment then most ordinary working people when in need of more specialised medical treatment would go to the nearest hospital or workhouse infirmary - in Croydon that was the workhouse infirmary.
'The development of the infirmaries into true hospitals was taken a step further in 1886 when their superintendents met at the Lambeth hospital. They petitioned the guardians and drew attention to the increasing degree of specialisation in medicine. They recommended the appointment of ‘specialists of eminence’ as honorary consultants to the infirmaries.” Slowly and patchily the infirmaries were developing into true hospitals.'
Regards
Valda
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Thanks for that Valda. Incidentally, I'm a bit new t al this, but I'm trying to trace my mother's father. I have an address where they were living in Croydon, but I'm not sure if they were married. There was a correction made to my mother's birth certificate (1947, she was born in 1934) in which his name was supposedly omitted - that's how she found out who her real father was, (which was a shock) but not his background or whereabouts, and I know she'd love to know!
Are there professional researchers who can undertake this work for me? I've tried Ancestry but all I've managed to get are entires in the Birth registers. I'm sure there's more info on there, but it seems to be a bit of a minefield... can you (or anyone reading this) suggest any help?
Cheers,
Dom
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Hi Dom
Welcome to Rootschat - there is bound to be someone on here who can help or at least point you in the right direction. Everyone is very helpful and friendly. Post everything you know about your mother's parents and people will try to help, but dont put the name's of any living people.
Good luck
Jan
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Thanks for that Jan. Here goes:
So I'm trying to find details of my mothers father, whose name was John Parsons, and according to a copy of my mother's birth certificate, was a mechanic at the Omnibus Garage in Croydon, at least in 1934. My mother was born in 76 Eridge road, and was living with my grandmother, Mary Anne, O'regan (formerly Johnson b24/6/1092 d 5/11/1984) at 36 Fairholme Road in Croydon. All I have is my mother's birth certificate, although I do know a few more details about Mary Anne - the names of her sisters and siblings etc, but that's about all. If anyone can help please give me some pointers! I really don't know where to begin.....
Cheers,
Dom
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Thanks People!
I received my Uncles birth certificate today, and was wondering where 76 Eridge Road was.
Thanks heaps for the info!
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It's the Croydon Union Workhouse. They may still have admission records for you to view,
hello pauline,i am trying to trace my g/g mothers movements,her name was susan mills,i know she had my grandfather in 1903 ,his b/cert states croydon union infirmary,on 1911 census she is listed as still in the infirmary,any ideas as to how i can find her release ,ive found her death in wimbledon 1940,s
many thanks steve
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Like many workhouse union infirmaries
'The hospital joined the National Health Service in 1948, and now operates as the Mayday Hospital. Many of the original infirmary structures survive.'
http://www.workhouses.org.uk/
Mayday Hospital is the main hospital in Croydon.
See my previous post for the link to Croydon local studies library where Croydon workhouse and infirmary records are held.
Regards
Valda
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Thanks for the link pauline
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Hi,
looking into my family tree, I notice a thread tittled death at 76 eridge rd.
My nan was born at this address, her name was Monica Vera Rutland (Barnes) born 1915.
Reading the threads, I take it this address was for single mums??
can anyone help please
Jeff