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Title: JOHN JOHNS and Martha Newport Pembrokeshire
Post by: Prue on Wednesday 27 September 06 22:13 BST (UK)


John JOHNS born about 1793  died 1883 . He married Martha ? (maybe George) born about 1793 died 1869. I am searching for Martha's maiden name and date of marriage.
They had 5 children, David b.1824. Jamesb.1830. Morris b 1833.Ann b.1837.
and Eleanor. The address on the census was Allt Cydach Newport.
Any help would be appreciated.

Prue
Title: Re: JOHN JOHNS and Martha Newport Pembrokeshire
Post by: welsh lady on Wednesday 27 September 06 22:30 BST (UK)
Theres quite a few marriages of a John John to a Martha around 1824.Where were John and Martha born?What do the censuses say might be able to narrow it down then.Best Wishes Welsh Lady
Title: Re: JOHN JOHNS and Martha Newport Pembrokeshire
Post by: Prue on Thursday 28 September 06 09:02 BST (UK)

 In 1851 Census at Ty  newydd John Johns place of birth is Cardigan  ( in 1871 it is stated Verwig) Martha was born Pembroke. The children were born in Newport, The 1861 census is missing and Martha had died in 1869.
Thanks for helping.
Prue.
Title: Re: JOHN JOHNS and Martha Newport Pembrokeshire
Post by: welsh lady on Thursday 28 September 06 14:42 BST (UK)
Here are the three I have found .

11/08/1818 John John (Labourer Landeloy) to Martha
Williams in Parish Brawdy,Pembs.

17/04/1821 John John (Nevern) to Martha Morgan in Parish Llys Y Fran Pembs.

12/10/1822 John John to Martha Beddoe ,Parish Nevern ,Pembs.

According to Genuki Nevern is 2miles from Newport.

Best Wishes Welsh Lady



Title: Re: JOHN JOHNS and Martha Newport Pembrokeshire
Post by: Prue on Thursday 28 September 06 15:27 BST (UK)
Here are the three I have found .

11/08/1818 John John (Labourer Landeloy) to Martha
Williams in Parish Brawdy,Pembs.

17/04/1821 John John (Nevern) to Martha Morgan in Parish Llys Y Fran Pembs.

12/10/1822 John John to Martha Beddoe ,Parish Nevern ,Pembs.

According to Genuki Nevern is 2miles from Newport.

Best Wishes Welsh Lady

Hi ,

Thank you for these.  Although Martha Beddoe seemed the most likely I should have said that I had ruled her out  because on the parish register John John had signed his name.On Martha's death certificate husband John John  was only able to make his mark.
I shall have to check out the other entries. I was hoping to come across the surname 'George'  for Martha because of a reference in a family letter. I would have obtained Eleanor's birth certificate and found Martha's maiden name. but the Haverfordwest Registrars have no record of her birth so the date on the census may be wrong.
Regards,

Prue

Title: Re: JOHN JOHNS and Martha Newport Pembrokeshire
Post by: Edgar Johns on Wednesday 03 August 16 00:20 BST (UK)
Hello. My Surname is Johns (the s in the name was added by ancestor about 1780). 3x Gr. Grandfather Gelly Johns born Pembroke or Tenby about 1800 Father Frank or Mark a son of Pembroke Blacksmith. Mother was Lucy Lang of Woodhouse near Fishguard. A sister of Lucy,s married a Phillips a son of that union was a Captain in Royal Navy.
Title: Re: JOHN JOHNS and Martha Newport Pembrokeshire
Post by: Penholder on Monday 14 November 16 17:35 GMT (UK)
Hi Prue

Just wondering if you ever found out Martha's surname?   If not then why not try the new search on the official GRO website, which will show the mother's maiden name.   I have tried looking for you but I don't know what the registration district would be so the following is just one of many possibilities:

Eleanor JOHN, (mother GEORGE), March quarter 1840, Lllanelly Union, Vol 26 p 551.

Diana