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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Ross & Cromarty => Topic started by: donaldsonjc on Wednesday 27 September 06 19:23 BST (UK)
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The Register for Marriages in Fodderty shows George Dingwall married Mary Cameron on 19 June 1840. Her residence is shown as "Hts of Dochcarty".
His place of residence is hard to read - the handwriting is a bit faded. It looks like "Dochpollo" but I can't locate a place with this name. George was born in Lemlair in 1819 and his father, John, was born in Heights of Dochairty about 1788, so I assume it is near Dingwall.
The letter p may be incorrect. Does anyone know where Dochpollo or Doch_ollo is?
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I cannot find such a name either - could the D perhaps be an L - names starting with Loch seem more likely. Genuki gives the following on R & C
Loch Duich
Lochalsh
Lochbroom
Lochcarron
Lochs
Could it have been the name of a property, rather than a parish?
Trish
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I live up here and can't think of anything it could be except a farmstead.
Nearest I can think of is Ullapool but that's a distance from Dingwall and travel over what we call 'The Jeerie' -(Dirrie Mor) the mountain route from East to West R & C - in those days would have been very difficult. It was a droving route.
Is it possible to put up an image of the writing?
Gadget
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Many thanks for your replies.
I have attempted to attach a scanned image of the entry.
Hope it is legible.
John
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Hi John
It looks like Dochpolls to me, which is most likely a farmstead. I've had a little look around the Dingwall area on the old maps site but I think it might take quite a while to locate.
If you go to http://www.old-maps.co.uk/ and put in Dingwall and get the map enlarged so that you can read the small print, you might find it by looking around the area, using the various direction arrows to move about the map.
Gadget
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Ohhhh, didn't know you were so near to my old stompin' ground, (Drumnadrochit) Gadget. No wonder you know about the West Highland Midge ::)
I'm like you, been doing my best, but can't find anything other than Fodderty.
Nearest I can get is Dochgarroch, but that's a couple of Firths away.
It's got to be a house or farmstead.
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Hi there
In the book "Place names of Ross and Cromarty" by Watson, in the Parish of Fodderty section Dochcarty is mentioned and an entry on the same page is for a location"DAVOCHPOLLO", form the Gaelic for "Davach of the pool". Could this be the Dochpollo you're looking for?
I've found with this book that the locations listed next to one another are also close together on the map.
Hope this helps!
Lynn
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That looks pretty good to me Lynn :) :) :)
pol is usually the word used in my neck of the woods - pool or hollow. Also there's pollaidh meaning boggy/swamp.
Thanks for the reference to the book - looks very useful.
Gadget
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Thanks for the clue that Dochpollo is derived from Davochpollo.
Used "mamma metasearch" to find Davochpollo in the History of the Mackenzies by Alexander Mackenzie.
He tells us that his ancestor, Alexander Mackenzie of Hilton inherited the Davochmaluag estate in 1776. The adjoining properties of Davochpollo and Davochcairn were previously acquired by his father, John Mackenzie, second of Brea. Alexander combined the three properties into one, and gave it the name of Brea, after the former estate of the family in Ferintosh.
I see the Heights of Brae is near Fodderty. Is there a Brea in the neighbourhood? Or has Mackenzie's Brea become Heights of Brae over time?
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Hi there
In the Place Names of Ross and Cromarty book, unfortunately there is no separate entry for Brae or Brea. However, under the entry for Davochmaluag it says:
"These three (i.e. Davochcarn, Davochpollo and Davochmaluag) were included in the farm of Brae, 1777."
This seems to tally with your info, unfortunately Watson doesn't expand any further.
I also checked the parishes of Urquhart and Resolis (as Watson doesn't list Ferintosh as a separate parish at this time). There weren't any entries for Brae in Urquhart however, there was one in Resolis, somewhere around Braelangwell.
I have found a Brae near Fodderty on a copy of a Victorian Ordnance Survey map - it's halfway between Fodderty and Lower Dochcarty and close to the Highland Railway line to Skye.
Hope some of this is of help!
Lynn
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Much later...
I have just got to the bottom of my 3x gt grandmother's maiden name. After much searching I have found her on the same census sheet as her future husband! ::) ;D
The relevance of this is that she is living at (and born at) Dochpollo and the census shows the household to be adjacent to others in Brae in Fodderty.
I hope this helps.
(Incidentally surnames BETHUNE, CAMERON are the ones I was after on this occasion - 1841 census)
kind regards, Arranroots ;)
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Hi :)
I am new to this sight and just seen this post.
I have ancestors who lived at Dochpollo on the Hights between Strathpeffer and Dingwall in the late 1700's. Their name is Wemyss. I think this name was discarded when Brae was taken up. Although in the parish records the name was still being used in 1800.
Scraggi
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Hi Scraggi
Welcome to Rootschat! :)
Looks like our ancestors were neighbours!
I hope you enjoy Rootschat and find lots to help you here.
kind regards, Arranroots ;)
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Hi Arranroots :)
I see that you are interested in the Bethune/Beaton line on the Heights. My Gt x 4 grandfather James Wemyss (1777-c.1854) married Helen Bethune (a.k.a. Alice/Elsie Beaton) (1788-c.1850). Any connection to you?
Regards
Scraggi
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Here's another reference - from a recent post on the Rootsweb ROSSGEN-L.
"I believe the name is Dochpollo. It is in Fodderty parrish and is
called thus because a davoch was an 8 acre parcel and pollo being pool so
dochpollo this from a great little book "The Strath" about the area between
Dingwall and Strathpeffer. There is also Dochcarty, Dochcairn
,Dochmalaug.all in the heights above Fodderty and east."
Also, there are some references to Davochpollo at:
http://www.schulers.com/books/al/h/History_Of_The_Mackenzies/History_Of_The_Mackenzies72.htm
and
http://www.schulers.com/books/al/h/History_Of_The_Mackenzies/History_Of_The_Mackenzies76.htm
To get completely confused about 'davoch' try:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daugh
or a lookup in the Dictionary of the Scots Language at:
http://www.dsl.ac.uk/getent4.php?plen=2521&startset=8510777&dtext=snd&query=DAVACH
Ah, one is always learning, learning from RootsChat ;)
JAP
PS: Gadget, I remember driving from Strathpeffer to Ullapool a few years back (only time I've been in the north of Scotland). Seem to remember a vegetarian pie-cart near a suspension bridge ...
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Gadget, I remember driving from Strathpeffer to Ullapool a few years back (only time I've been in the north of Scotland). Seem to remember a vegetarian pie-cart near a suspension bridge ...
Um - I don't think there are any suspension bridges between Strathpeffer and Ullapool. Would you be thinking of the Kessock Bridge - A9 north from Inverness. There are pull in places on the North side (Black Isle) of the Bridge.
Alternatively there is the bridge just before the Dingwall/Strathpeffer turn near Contin.
Gadget
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Hi Gadget,
It was over 10 years ago - so I can't guarantee the engineering of the bridge. Sorry if I misled you :'(
I had checked back in an old photo album and found photos of Strathpeffer (the last being of the Eagle Stone), followed by a gloomy landscape photo (it was a beautiful drive but not a beautiful day), then the vego pie-cart, then a photo of some falls, then next were distant views of Ullapool.
I'd recalled that, as I strode out on to the bridge (yes it rocked) and a stunning view, my passenger refused to come - wouldn't have a bar of the bridge!!
Anyway, I've now Googled and find that I must have been referring to the Falls of Measach (I'll label the photos properly now - not just "Falls"!). And that my photo must have been taken from the 2-person viewing platform.
If one looks at:
http://www.haun-online.de/Scotland/Scotland2k/HTML/e_sco2k24.html
and the next two photos, and scrolls down to the descriptions, perhaps I was the foolhardy one 8)
JAP
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Your description made me say 'Corrieshalloch Gorge' before I got to the end ;D ;D ;D
I was thinking of a suspension bridge which the main road crossed rather than down in the valley section. The parking place is to the North of the road and above the road slightly. Everyone then has to cross the busy road to get down to the footpath that leads to the Falls. They are currently revamping things and the main entrance will then be from the other, Gairloch, road. It's about 10 miles from Ullapool.
Weather is gorgeous here at the moment. A High over Scandinavia always brings us fair weather. Bear that in mind for your next trip.
Regards
Gadget
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Corrieshalloch....oh do stop, Gadget, you're making me feel homesick....
Those years in the Highlands were the best years of my life.
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Gadget, I can't remember exactly where the parking spot and vegetarian pie van were. But if they were on the other side of the road, no doubt traffic was lighter then (I've checked - it was May 1993).
PaulaToo, If that's the effect of two words resulting from my description, I do wonder what effect the photos on the link I posted have on you :o
JAP
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My goodness, I can almost smell the peat from here.
Lovely memories come flooding back, not only of Corrieshalloch, but Applecross, and Inverewe, created by Sir Osgood Mackenzie.
And of course, 'that castle' dinky little Eilean Donan, which is just exactly what a Highland castle should look like.
A lovely site, with lovely memories.
Oh yes, and no midges.....
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I see that you are interested in the Bethune/Beaton line on the Heights. My Gt x 4 grandfather James Wemyss (1777-c.1854) married Helen Bethune (a.k.a. Alice/Elsie Beaton) (1788-c.1850). Any connection to you?
Regards
Scraggi
I'm coming a little late to this party but just found the reference to Wemyss/Bethune after a Google search! My Wemyss line comes from Fodderty and although I cannot at present prove a direct link to your 4xggrandfather, Scraggi, all the Wemysses in that area seem to me to be related to each other, including the ones who like mine strayed over the parish line into Dingwall. Having been there once or twice myself it looks relatively easy to do!
I'd be happy to compare notes with you.
Alison
near Glasgow
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Glen Dochcarty is in the west, Docharty itself is immediately north of Dingwall and Pollo is a property on the Cromarty Firth, east of Invergordon. This would have been Davochpollo, a davoch being a piece of land.
Skoosh.
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I found Brea on a map it adjacent to Davochmalaug (Dochmaloug) to the east. If Brea was once Davochpollo then it is here https://maps.nls.uk/view/228780196. Look for the village of Fodderty, then Dochmalaug is just to the north east. Hope This helps!