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Title: Byrne Settlers
Post by: pcoups on Wednesday 27 September 06 08:20 BST (UK)
Can anyone help me with info regarding the Byrne settlers. I'm hoping that perhaps somewhere there would be letters of application to join the settlers or something like that.
How did people qualify to join the Byrne settlers?
I have WOOD family aboard the King William that landed in Port Natal 1850 and would like more info on them.
Any help would be much appreciated.
Regards
Lynn
Title: Re: Byrne Settlers
Post by: rutti tutti on Wednesday 27 September 06 08:37 BST (UK)
In the meantime read this:
http://www.shelaghspencer.co.za/settlers/byrne_settlers.htm

Ruth
Title: Re: Byrne Settlers
Post by: pcoups on Wednesday 27 September 06 08:56 BST (UK)
Done.
And also checked her names of folks she is still compiling biography's on. I think she's published till H  .... seven volumes of her work are published.
Long way to W. The names I'm looking at are on her to do list.
What I was hoping for are perhaps like ...can't think now.....letters as those being transcribed now that the possible 1820 settlers wrote when applying.
Surely folks had to send the names, ages, qualifications etc to some-one who then decided who went who stayed.
Regards
Lynn
Title: Re: Byrne Settlers
Post by: Patkzn on Friday 29 September 06 15:08 BST (UK)
Hello Lynn,

The settlers who arrived on the Haidee in 1850 had to complete emigration forms which were counter-signed by, say, the local minister.  The forms were submitted to the Land Commission who then approved (or not) the application.  I know that the Haidee Settler emigration forms are lodged with the Deeds Office in Pietermaritzburg.  As I recall, tracking down the forms was not an easy task (i.e. not solved by sending an email to the Deeds Office).  I recommend you contact Shelagh O'Byrne Spencer and ask her whether your Wood family completed such a form.  If so, then you would need to engage the services of a researcher and ask them to visit the Deeds Office.

Regards,

Pat
Title: Re: Byrne Settlers
Post by: izabel on Friday 29 September 06 22:12 BST (UK)
This site might help you

http://www.genealogyworld.net/rose/byrne.html
Title: Re: Byrne Settlers
Post by: pcoups on Friday 29 September 06 22:42 BST (UK)
Izabel.................Thank you very much.

Pat...............Thank you too. 
I think you and I are on the same page. This is the sort of info I'm wanting. The Names are on Shelagh's  'to do' as I've said so she definitely has something on them but what I don't know. I also haven't a contact address for her. I've checked her site backwards, forewards. up and down and can't find contact details. Would you by any chance have it?
The deed office ...... would they perhaps be in the UK archives?
Regards
Lynn
Title: Re: Byrne Settlers
Post by: Patkzn on Saturday 30 September 06 10:24 BST (UK)
Hello Lynn,

I spoke with Shelagh this morning and have sent you an e-mail "off list".

The Deeds Office records will be in Pietermaritzburg.  I found references on the Net to John Medley Wood at http://www.durban.gov.za/eThekwini/Services/parks/dbn_botanic_gardens/History

Regards,

Pat
Title: Re: Byrne Settlers
Post by: African Immigrant on Wednesday 08 June 16 09:38 BST (UK)
Sorry to revive this old topic but I've recently realised that my ancester who arrived in 1849 to Durban was likely to be a Byrne Settler so hoping to find out if this is correct. Does anyone know if Shelagh Spencer has a list of settlers?

Thanks
Title: Re: Byrne Settlers
Post by: Patkzn on Wednesday 08 June 16 11:53 BST (UK)
I have a list of Byrne Settlers.  Let me know who you are looking for and I will check the list.

Kind regards,

Pat
Title: Re: Byrne Settlers
Post by: 3sillydogs on Wednesday 08 June 16 12:32 BST (UK)
Mole's Genealogy Blog is a good place for Natal research here a link, just scroll down until you find the settlers to Natal

http://molegenealogy.blogspot.co.za/search?q=byrne+settlers

http://molegenealogy.blogspot.co.za/search/label/Natal%20Passenger%20Lists

If you post more info on the Woods you are looking for perhaps they can be tracked down for you.. ;)
Title: Re: Byrne Settlers
Post by: African Immigrant on Wednesday 08 June 16 12:38 BST (UK)
Howzit, that is good news, Looking for William Henry Savory - arrived Durban 1849.
Title: Re: Byrne Settlers
Post by: 3sillydogs on Wednesday 08 June 16 12:49 BST (UK)

Possibly your guy  William Henry marriage to Jane Elinor

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KDCK-6B4

there are also births for children.  Just type his name into the search Family Search and limit the search to South Africa
Title: Re: Byrne Settlers
Post by: African Immigrant on Wednesday 08 June 16 12:56 BST (UK)
Thanks 3sillydogs, we know he married Jane Elinor Heslington and had 3 sons and a daughter. We can trace him back to 1725. It is just the reason for emigrating and possible link to the Byrne group that we want to establish.
Title: Re: Byrne Settlers
Post by: 3sillydogs on Wednesday 08 June 16 12:58 BST (UK)
Ok, just in case you don't have his Estate File here is the link

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-99LS-RTRC?i=294&cat=229462

Title: Re: Byrne Settlers
Post by: African Immigrant on Wednesday 08 June 16 13:12 BST (UK)
Did not have that - thank you.
Title: Re: Byrne Settlers
Post by: Patkzn on Wednesday 08 June 16 13:26 BST (UK)
William Henry Savory is not listed on the Byrne Settlers lists.  He is listed on the British Settlers in Natal list by Shelagh O'Byrne Spencer but the name of the ship on which he travelled is, unfortunately, not mentioned.   

Kind regards,

Pat
Title: Re: Byrne Settlers
Post by: African Immigrant on Wednesday 08 June 16 13:37 BST (UK)
Thank you very much for your effort - appreciated.
Title: Re: Byrne Settlers
Post by: 3sillydogs on Wednesday 08 June 16 15:19 BST (UK)
Not sure if you have this either,

Obit for William's son Samuel

http://www.eggsa.org/newspapers/index.php/south-african-magazine/312-south-africa-1899-2-april-june


Marriage announcement for Samuel Henry

http://www.eggsa.org/newspapers/index.php/south-african-magazine/291-domestic-announcements-1891-1-january-march
Just scroll down the page until you find Savory....
Title: Re: Byrne Settlers
Post by: African Immigrant on Wednesday 08 June 16 15:40 BST (UK)
Thanks. Much appreciated.
Title: Re: Byrne Settlers
Post by: BumbleB on Wednesday 08 June 16 16:28 BST (UK)
If you want to have a good idea of the hardships, etc. of the Byrne Settlers, then get hold of a copy of Dear Louisa - letters between sister's, one a Byrne settler, the other in London.  It is a wonderful insight into early Settler life.  I visited Byrne in February, and saw Ellen McLeod's grave.



Title: Re: Byrne Settlers
Post by: pampoen on Thursday 09 June 16 12:54 BST (UK)
A lot of Byrne settlers lived in York Natal. I took video footage of what is left of the town and the cemetery in December. This can be seen on the Natal Midlands group on FB. My Smith family came from Bedale in England on the Haidee.