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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Hampshire & Isle of Wight => Topic started by: cduc on Tuesday 26 September 06 19:37 BST (UK)
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Seeking info on marriage and birth dates/ancestors of James Harris and Caroline Colbourne who lived in Holdenhurst, Hampshire. On the Census he gave his place of birth as Christchurch c.1826-31, she gave hers as Alderholt/Fordingbridge c.1827. They had the following children: Martha Maria, Margaret Lavinia, Esther, and perhaps a Caroline...they also had a youth Jesse Harris living with them, who could have been a son. They were also raising a grandson named Frank Fred Harris.
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:) Hi Cduc..... because your going with the Christchurch and Fordingbridge info i presumed you hadnt followed up the other census's. Couldnt find a marriage but then on finding the spelling of Carolines name in the 41 census will try again in a minute. Anyway James seems to change his age between census's and birth places for them both change as well. Could'nt find a daughter Caroline.Not sure how much of this you have so will post anyway....
1841....Wimbourne and Cranborne HO107/287/10
John Coulbourne 55 Ag Lab b in county
Martha Coulbourne 45 not born in county
Caroline '' 15 b in county
Eliza '' 12 ''
George '' 7 ''
Louisa '' 9 ''
John '' 3 ''
Jessy '' 19 months ''
HO 107 1667 `1851
James Harris 28 head M b Sopley hants
Caroline Harris 24 b Cranbourne Dorset
Maria 1 b Sopley Hants
RG 9/667 1861
James Harris H 34 b Christchurch Hants
Caroline Harris Wife 33 b '' ''
Maria Harris dau 12 b Haven
Fanney Harris dau 10 b Haven
? Harris dau 7 b Haven
Both Fanney and ? Harris transcribed as boys names but entered as daughters with ages in girls columns
1871 RG10 1178
James Harris H 48 Ag Lab B Bransgore Hants
Caroline Harris W 44 b Alderholt Dorset
Margaret Harris dau 9 b Bournemouth Dorset
Jesse harris son 5 b Bournemouth Dorset
John Joy 25 Painter and Dec b Holt Dorset
RG11/1194 1881
James Harris Head 50 b Christchurch
Caroline Harris Wife 54 b Fordingbridge
Margaret Hallett dau 19 ( def entered as Hallet)
Jesse Harris boarder 15 (def son from 1871 census)
Fred Harris grandson ( maybe one of the earlier daughters son)
Living in Gladstone Road which is the road my sister lives in now....I will have a look and see if No 1 Elysium Villas still exists.
I will have a look now to see if i can pick a marriage up
best wishes Cheryle.f ;D
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:) Heres birth of first daughter Maria.....
Maria Harris Jul Aug Sep 1849 V111 160
regards cheryle
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;D ;D And....
James Harris married Caroline Colbourn
Apr May June 1846 Wimbourne and Co 8 273
In the 41 James Harris age 20 is not living with his parents but living in the house of John and Mary Burt and their children in White Hall Christchurch H0 107/397/3. So maybe someone with the Christchurch parish records can help you with the parents names.
enjoy ....cheryle
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This is interesting!
Caroline Colbourn baptised 26 Feb 1826 in Damerham, which at that point (according to a book I have) was in Wiltshire! It is not far from Fordingbridge and Alderholt (check it out streetmap or multimap). Parents were John and Martha.
Siblings:
Maria bapt 8 Sep 1822
Willliam bapt 29 Feb 1824
Eliza bapt 28 Sep 1828
Louisa bapt 4 Sep 1831
John Thomas bapt 22 Oct 1837
Jessie bapt 23 Aug 1840
James is much harder because he is so inconsistent with his age!
I have found these baptisms:
James bapt 15 Oct 1820 Christchurch, parents Robert & Sarah
James bapt 21 Jun 1824 Bransgore (chapelry of Christchurch at this date) parents Anthony & Elizabeth
James bapt 9 Nov 1832 Fordingbridge parents James & Fanny ( but this would not fit the possible James in 1841 in Christchurch :-\ )
There are many other possibles, but not fitting the rough area where he says he was born. Until you have his father's name - from the marriage certificate - he's going to be difficult to pin down.
Nell
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Looks as if Caroline has moved in with her daughter in Boscombe by 1891:
1891 Census RG12/903 Boscombe
Palmerston Rd
11 (house name??)
James Hallett Head 33 Fishmonger & poulterer
Margaret " Wife 29
Jesse " D 6
Carrie ? " D 4
Margaret " D 2
Caroline Harris Mother-in-law Widow 64 born Alderholt
Best wishes
Pete
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That's them! Thanks so much! Carrie