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Title: Beard and Scrivens Worcestershire
Post by: Emjaybee on Sunday 07 November 04 12:07 GMT (UK)
Surely I'm not the only member of my family tracing Beards and Scrivens in Worcestershire. I did find one lady who listed my father in her family tree, BUT when I e-mailed her I got a reply from her husband saying she died 3 months before (I felt awfull) and he had no knowledge.

Do you know anyone with links to Scrivens, Kings Heath, Beards in West Bromwich, Beard in Worcestershire?

I feel so lonely   ???

Mike


Title: Re: Beard and Scrivens Worcestershire
Post by: lindagene on Sunday 07 November 04 13:34 GMT (UK)
  Mike I know just how you feel, I have been looking for Snowdons forever, some days I think that I am the only person in the world who is,    when I check out all the available sites I do sometimes see others, but never in the regions that I am interested in.   Some day - maybe- I just keep on hoping.   Hang on in there, it will come eventually    Lindy ::)
Title: Re: Beard and Scrivens Worcestershire
Post by: Darcy on Sunday 07 November 04 14:01 GMT (UK)

You are definitely not alone Mike  ;D

I am always amazed when others find  enormous branches of their tree on the net. :o
 
I have never found the remotest connection with anyone else. Nobody is interested in my lot except me  :'(

Darcy
Title: Re: Beard and Scrivens Worcestershire
Post by: honeybun on Monday 08 November 04 14:55 GMT (UK)
I'm glad to find others in the same boat.

I'm amazed at others who find loads of people in their family on the net (although I would be a bit suspicious if I did find something quite so good ...)
I have had one reply from RootsChat from someone who is a distant cousin and with whom I share the family back from around 1820, but apart from that nothing!

Any Wooltons out there?

Honeybun
Title: Re: Beard and Scrivens Worcestershire
Post by: Jaybeebuzz on Thursday 26 May 05 18:57 BST (UK)
Mike

If it helps you feel less lonely, my gt grandmother came to live in Wyre Piddle, Worcs after she was married. Her name was Elizabeth Mary Scrivens and she married Richard Pinchin, but my Scrivens all come from Gloucestershire originally! (like you, until recently I was the only one researching my particular Scrivens line, even though there are lots of researchers of the Scrivens of Glos. It just seemed that no one was interested in my particular  lot!)

Julie

RESEARCHING TINSON & BALLARD, WORCESTERSHIRE
SCRIVENS & PINCHIN GLOUCESTERSHIRE
Title: Re: Beard and Scrivens Worcestershire
Post by: Willow 4873 on Thursday 14 July 05 11:03 BST (UK)
I've already spoken to Mike as I am researching the name Beard too but we have established that they are from different parts of Worcestershire and I can't find any further info on them either

GGGRRRRRR!! (chewing carpet in frustration)

And as for Hiltons in Wolverhampton not even a nibble from a relly

Willow x
Title: Re: Beard and Scrivens Worcestershire
Post by: alveleyhistorian on Monday 25 July 05 12:13 BST (UK)
Have you tried putting a letter in the Black Country Bugle ?? It might help - loads of people from all over the place read that.
Good Luck
alveleyhistorian
Title: Re: Beard and Scrivens Worcestershire
Post by: jacquelineve on Tuesday 26 July 05 16:12 BST (UK)
Mike

 I know exactly how you feel.

I'm researching Whitehouse from Tipton Staffs,there are said to be trillions of them in the Blackcountry,but can I find one
connected to mine.
           There's a Beard somewhere in my family(Kenneth)
unsure as to whether 1st.or 2nd.cousin to my mom.
probably born 1930's Dudley area.(great?)
               Anyway "plod on"

                         Jacquelineve.
Title: Re: Beard and Scrivens Worcestershire
Post by: Dahlia on Saturday 13 August 05 16:12 BST (UK)
Don't give up - I am fresh back from my holidays - some of which was spent in Kent RO, looking up a link I have been digging around for 12 years in London.  At last I have found the family before they got to London, but that is another story!  Perseverance is the name of the game! 

I do have lots of Scrivenses on my tree, but they come from Gloucestershire originally.  I don't have any links to Worcestershire on that side I'm afraid. I did check out a group in Colwall/Hollybush/Bromsberrow area, but I don't know if they moved further north.  I'll keep my eyes open as the name leaps out of a page at me sometimes.

If you want to mail me some details I'll try to look out anything useful.

Regards

Dahlia
Title: Re: Beard and Scrivens Worcestershire
Post by: scriv2 on Monday 22 August 05 15:18 BST (UK)
Hi Mike...I am on the Scriven hunt too, but I don't think I can help you. I don't know any Beards in my tree.

My Scrivens come from Alveley....
Title: Re: Beard and Scrivens Worcestershire
Post by: alveleyhistorian on Friday 26 August 05 13:37 BST (UK)
Surely I'm not the only member of my family tracing Beards and Scrivens in Worcestershire. I did find one lady who listed my father in her family tree, BUT when I e-mailed her I got a reply from her husband saying she died 3 months before (I felt awfull) and he had no knowledge.

Do you know anyone with links to Scrivens, Kings Heath, Beards in West Bromwich, Beard in Worcestershire?

I feel so lonely   ???

Mike




Hi mike,
While browsing through some scriven paperwork I found the following - hope it helps -

Florence E Scriven born 1920 -registered Wolverhampton  mothers maiden name Beard
Sarah E Scriven born 1921 - registered wolverhampton.
mothers maiden name Beards
Eliza Scriven born 1924- registered wolverhampton
mothers maiden name Beards
Emma Scriven born 1925 - registered Wolverhmapton
mothers maiden name Beard
William Scriven born 1927 - registered Wolverhampton
motehrs maiden name Beards
Beatrice Scriven born 1933- registered wolverhmapton
mothers maiden name Beard

Hope it helps in some small way
alveleyhistorian



Title: Re: Beard and Scrivens Worcestershire
Post by: scriv2 on Friday 26 August 05 14:09 BST (UK)
Hi...anyone know what became of Wiliam James Scriven b. Alveley ca. 1874?

Last 'seen' on the 1901 census aged 27, single and a police constable, living at Dudley police station

Is he likely to be connected to this lot?
Title: Re: Beard and Scrivens Worcestershire
Post by: Dahlia on Thursday 01 September 05 00:39 BST (UK)
HI Mike,

While in Birmingham Library I found this in the index to burials in Lodge Hill Cemetery:

Mary Scrivens, buried March 9th 1913, no. 845 in register, 674 C8 (not sure if that's the plot number).

Any help?

Dahlia
Title: Re: Beard and Scrivens Worcestershire
Post by: scriv2 on Thursday 01 September 05 22:04 BST (UK)
Hi Diane

I think your msg was for Mike not for me....  Best wishes, Barbara



HI Mike,

While in Birmingham Library I found this in the index to burials in Lodge Hill Cemetery:

Mary Scrivens, buried March 9th 1913, no. 845 in register, 674 C8 (not sure if that's the plot number).

Any help?

Diane Scrivens
Title: Re: Beard and Scrivens Worcestershire
Post by: scriv2 on Thursday 01 September 05 22:05 BST (UK)
Sorry about the above  - I am so dense tonight! ::) I thought this had been a private msg. Duh!

Goodnight all!!
Title: Re: Beard and Scrivens Worcestershire
Post by: jadedoz on Saturday 01 October 05 05:18 BST (UK)
I have James Lacon Beard in my family tree. He was born in about 1840 in Old Swinfors Worcestershire. Although James' parents James Lacon Beard and Mary Salt had originally come from St Leonards, Shropshire. I have only ever found one other person searching my line of the Beard's.
Title: Re: Beard and Scrivens Worcestershire
Post by: Emjaybee on Saturday 01 October 05 07:43 BST (UK)
I found the name  .xxxx Lacon Beard in Powick, Worcs. I'll look out my notes and post them for you.


Modified:  OOOOPS this was Loggon Beard -  sorry

Our Beards are all in Worcesershire.

Mike
Title: Re: Beard and Scrivens Worcestershire
Post by: pearls on Wednesday 30 November 05 09:30 GMT (UK)
Hello Mike,
    I am seeking information on the Beard/Scrivens line.I understand that Rosina Scrivens married George Beard in about 1887. Their son Alfred was born on 19.11.1887;later married twice. His first wife and he produced several children;
   1.  Alfred James Thomas born 31.7.1920-20.6.1995
   2.  Rose
   3.  Eva Beatrice
   4.  Alice
   5.  Landon Donald,at whose birth both mother and baby died.
  Alfred (1) then remarried Lillian Maud Taylor
          Does this sound like your family?
   I would very much like to hear from you .
           Yours sincerely, Judith Wakefield.
Title: Re: Beard and Scrivens Worcestershire
Post by: Emjaybee on Thursday 16 February 06 14:39 GMT (UK)
Rosina Scrivens and George Beard are my Grandparents!!!!

I have census info for Rosinas family.
Title: Re: Beard and Scrivens Worcestershire
Post by: Jaybeebuzz on Wednesday 22 February 06 16:35 GMT (UK)
Hi Mike

Thanks for your interest. My Gt Grandmother was Elizabeth Mary Scrivens, b. 14 Sep 1850, Eastington, Glos. She was the daughter of Elizabeth Scrivens (b.abt 1816) & Richard Scrivens (b.abt 1811) who were possibly cousins given that they both had the surname Scrivens before marriage. Elizabeth Mary married Richard Pinchin and moved to Worcestershire sometime around 1882. They had 12 children, Richard, Willm, Sarah Ann, Fanny, Agnes, Charles, Elizabeth, Kate, John, Gertrude, Albert & Sydney. Does this ring any bells?

Julie
Title: Re: Beard and Scrivens Worcestershire
Post by: Emjaybee on Thursday 23 February 06 12:09 GMT (UK)
Oh dear, I'm sorry, I have lots of Scrivens listed but not one that ties in with your group. I trust you wont mind if I add these to my book in the hope that we might find a link at some time.

Mike
Title: Re: Beard and Scrivens Worcestershire
Post by: Jaybeebuzz on Thursday 23 February 06 16:43 GMT (UK)
Mike

You probably have the Scrivens Gedcom file that I already have then (from Scrivens 1580 and Joane Green?),  it's been doing the rounds. I've a strong feeling that my Scrivens do tie into it, it's just that no one has found the link yet. I've gone as far back as Richard Scrivens, b. abt 1770 who married Jane --?--, possibly Northleach area.  A trip to the GLS records office might fill in the blanks when I can find the time.

Julie
Title: Re: Beard and Scrivens Worcestershire
Post by: Emjaybee on Thursday 23 February 06 19:01 GMT (UK)
No I dont have that one, can you e-mail it to me, I will then send you the 14 page pdf.
Title: Re: Beard and Scrivens Worcestershire
Post by: Jaybeebuzz on Saturday 25 February 06 19:14 GMT (UK)
Mike

The Scrivens gedcom file I have  is online at http://genforum.genealogy.com/cgi-bin/pageload.cgi?Richard,SCrivens::scriven::152.html
I've a feeling there are one or two errors though.

Julie
Title: Re: Beard and Scrivens Worcestershire
Post by: Beardie on Monday 10 July 06 00:14 BST (UK)
hello mike,
have you any information on 9291 pte herbert thomas beard of the 1st worcestershire regiment killed in action 16/3/15. i have a copy of his service papers from the national archive. he came from the barbourne area

beardie
Title: Re: Beard and Scrivens Worcestershire
Post by: Emjaybee on Monday 10 July 06 21:53 BST (UK)
Sorry, not one of ours!
Title: Re: Beard and Scrivens Worcestershire
Post by: Emjaybee on Tuesday 01 August 06 15:37 BST (UK)
Update:       VERY LARGE PDF file of Scrivens family tree now available at

Due to hosting problems this file is no longer on line - please e-mail me.

this includes many side branched not just the Beard and Scrivens direct line.

Please let me know if you find a link.

Mike
Title: Re: Beard and Scrivens Worcestershire
Post by: nelle on Friday 08 September 06 12:07 BST (UK)
I have an Ann Beard married to a Richard Cooper in 1813 in Birmingham.  Ann was from Wolverhampton.  From over here in OZ I am not sure if this is close to your area?

I have no other info about the Beard family, but quite a bit about the Coopers

Nelle
Title: Re: Beard and Scrivens Worcestershire
Post by: Emjaybee on Friday 27 March 09 08:54 GMT (UK)
Any updates on this old string folks?

Mike
Title: Re: Beard and Scrivens Worcestershire
Post by: Beardie on Friday 27 March 09 08:59 GMT (UK)
morning mike  ;D

not a lot to add from me! my beard lot came to oldbury in the 1830s from the stoke prior area!
Title: Re: Beard and Scrivens Worcestershire
Post by: Willow 4873 on Friday 27 March 09 10:57 GMT (UK)
Hiya all

Just to let you know I have now pushed my Beard family back a couple of generations

Ann Beard b 1832 Cookley father John Beard b 1799 Monmouth father John b c1774 died 1823 Redbrook Gloucs - unfortunately now stuck again

If you end up researching Gloucestershire dont forget the brilliant Forest of Dean site where they are transcribing all the parish records http://www.forest-of-dean.net/ - you have to register but it is free and they also cover some parts of Herefordshire

If you are researching Wolverhampton try the Wolverhampton Archive site http://www.wolverhamptonhistory.org.uk/resources/familyhistory

Or FreeREG http://freereg.rootsweb.com/cgi/Search.pl which has a lot of Wolverhampton records on it

Willow x
Title: Re: Beard and Scrivens Worcestershire
Post by: Emjaybee on Friday 27 March 09 13:37 GMT (UK)
I finally found the answer to my  family mystery.

GtGtGt Grandad Joseph Watkins was transported to Australia in 1852 for stealing sheep.
Title: Re: Beard and Scrivens Worcestershire
Post by: Willow 4873 on Friday 27 March 09 18:05 GMT (UK)
Well done

See the truth information is out there

Its just wading through everything else to find it  ::)

Willow x
Title: Re: Beard and Scrivens Worcestershire
Post by: Jaybeebuzz on Wednesday 10 June 09 19:34 BST (UK)
I seem to have come to a bit of a full stop with my Scrivens lot. I really need to go to Gloucestershire RO to get any further. I have 2 separate Scrivens lines (yes, I have a male Scrivens marrying a female Scrivens in my tree, they may have been cousins but no link as yet) but neither line seems to tie into anyone else's tree!!  :-[


Julie
Title: Re: Beard and Scrivens Worcestershire
Post by: scriv2 on Tuesday 16 June 09 09:55 BST (UK)
Hi jaybeebuzz...

Do your Scriven lines ever mingle with mine?......mainly in Alveley, Bewley,Kidderminster and also Stourbridge around 1911?

Title: Re: Beard and Scrivens Worcestershire
Post by: Jaybeebuzz on Tuesday 16 June 09 14:28 BST (UK)
Not that I know of Scriv2. I've not checked the 1911 census for my Scrivens lot yet but up to 1901, at any rate, they stayed put in Gloucestershire. The only one who moved to Worcestershire was my gt grandmother Elizabeth Mary Scrivens, b. 1850 Eastington, Gls, daughter of Richard & Elizabeth Scrivens (nee Scrivens!). She and her husband, Richard Pinchin,  moved to Croome D'Abitot, WOR  sometime between 1881 and 1891 and later settled in Eckington.

Julie
Title: Re: Beard and Scrivens Worcestershire
Post by: Maggie_R on Monday 29 June 09 14:52 BST (UK)
I have Scriven's in my tree in Shropshire & Worcestershire.

Shropshire 1724-1774 and Worcestershire 1556-1679

Any likelyhood of a connection?

Maggie
Title: Re: Beard and Scrivens Worcestershire
Post by: Maggie_R on Monday 29 June 09 14:53 BST (UK)
Should have said ...... My Scriven's are in Hanley Castle c1600

M
Title: Re: Beard and Scrivens Worcestershire
Post by: Jaybeebuzz on Monday 29 June 09 15:33 BST (UK)
Hi Maggie

Unfortunately I've not got anywhere near that far back with mine so I don't know!

Julie
Title: Re: Beard and Scrivens Worcestershire
Post by: Emjaybee on Monday 29 June 09 19:18 BST (UK)
Maggie-R

My lot are around Hanley Castle, I wonder if we have a link.

Mike
Title: Re: Beard and Scrivens Worcestershire
Post by: Maggie_R on Monday 29 June 09 23:10 BST (UK)
Mike

I think there is a good chance that we are connected as I notice there is a Beard in my tree (level with my grandparents generation) and some other people from Hanley (is this the same place as Hanley Castle?) in that bit of the tree in the 19th C.

I've sent you an email.

Maggie
Title: Re: Beard and Scrivens Worcestershire
Post by: Emjaybee on Tuesday 30 June 09 09:07 BST (UK)
As they say at 20-20 cricket Yahoooooooo.

My lot are Beards, we are related (mind you you might not be pleased about that ;D)

Cant wait for your PDF, I'm sure we will have lots to share. Hanley Castle is often just called Hanley, but there is Hanley Swan as well.

Once more RC comes good, may thanks to all admin, techies and mods. And its freeeee!

Mike
Title: Re: Beard and Scrivens Worcestershire
Post by: Willow 4873 on Tuesday 30 June 09 10:38 BST (UK)
Brilliant!

I have now pretty much established the my Beard Family came from Framilode Glos and moved to Redbrook Glos before some of them moved over to Cookley Worcs

Willow x
Title: Re: Beard and Scrivens Worcestershire
Post by: Emjaybee on Wednesday 01 July 09 12:51 BST (UK)
Oh dear, no link.

I did have some info relating to the PDF tree from another three independent sources that might help.

Mike
Title: Re: Beard and Scrivens Worcestershire
Post by: jackfieldlass on Friday 31 July 15 23:37 BST (UK)
In the book Broseley and its surrounds by john randall,it mentions The Old Hall an old house at Coalford Jackfield Shropshire that was owned by a Lacon Beard,in a diary of Lacon Beard it says on the 10th of march 1832 the house was pulled down by Lord Foresters men after being in the  family since 25th March 1595,the Lacon family were the original owners of the property and connected to the Beards.
in 1657 a James Lacon and his wife Dorothy of the West Coppice leased the Old Hall to Phillips Reynolds,James and Dorothy Lacon had a son called John.
I have the Beard on my family tree, the Beards inter married with the Potts family many times over the generations,my grt grand parents x 4 were William Potts and Drucilla Lloyd both decended from members of the Beard family.The Beard family vaults were at the Red Church Jackfield,grave stones for Beards are also in St Leonards Church Broseley Shropshire and a cast iron grave stone for a Eustace Beard is in Benthall Church.Extracts of wills for some Beards can be found in the book miners and mariners of the severn gorge.
Title: Re: Beard and Scrivens Worcestershire
Post by: philheeks on Saturday 01 August 15 11:14 BST (UK)
Hi Mike

The name Scriven is being researched by a member of GOONS so you cn bet that they are researching all variants - I don't know what part of the country this member is researching but why not have a look at the site as it may be WOR

All the very best

Phil
Weston-super-Mare
born Worcester City