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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Worcestershire => Topic started by: Emjaybee on Sunday 07 November 04 12:07 GMT (UK)
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Surely I'm not the only member of my family tracing Beards and Scrivens in Worcestershire. I did find one lady who listed my father in her family tree, BUT when I e-mailed her I got a reply from her husband saying she died 3 months before (I felt awfull) and he had no knowledge.
Do you know anyone with links to Scrivens, Kings Heath, Beards in West Bromwich, Beard in Worcestershire?
I feel so lonely ???
Mike
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Mike I know just how you feel, I have been looking for Snowdons forever, some days I think that I am the only person in the world who is, when I check out all the available sites I do sometimes see others, but never in the regions that I am interested in. Some day - maybe- I just keep on hoping. Hang on in there, it will come eventually Lindy ::)
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You are definitely not alone Mike ;D
I am always amazed when others find enormous branches of their tree on the net. :o
I have never found the remotest connection with anyone else. Nobody is interested in my lot except me :'(
Darcy
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I'm glad to find others in the same boat.
I'm amazed at others who find loads of people in their family on the net (although I would be a bit suspicious if I did find something quite so good ...)
I have had one reply from RootsChat from someone who is a distant cousin and with whom I share the family back from around 1820, but apart from that nothing!
Any Wooltons out there?
Honeybun
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Mike
If it helps you feel less lonely, my gt grandmother came to live in Wyre Piddle, Worcs after she was married. Her name was Elizabeth Mary Scrivens and she married Richard Pinchin, but my Scrivens all come from Gloucestershire originally! (like you, until recently I was the only one researching my particular Scrivens line, even though there are lots of researchers of the Scrivens of Glos. It just seemed that no one was interested in my particular lot!)
Julie
RESEARCHING TINSON & BALLARD, WORCESTERSHIRE
SCRIVENS & PINCHIN GLOUCESTERSHIRE
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I've already spoken to Mike as I am researching the name Beard too but we have established that they are from different parts of Worcestershire and I can't find any further info on them either
GGGRRRRRR!! (chewing carpet in frustration)
And as for Hiltons in Wolverhampton not even a nibble from a relly
Willow x
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Have you tried putting a letter in the Black Country Bugle ?? It might help - loads of people from all over the place read that.
Good Luck
alveleyhistorian
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Mike
I know exactly how you feel.
I'm researching Whitehouse from Tipton Staffs,there are said to be trillions of them in the Blackcountry,but can I find one
connected to mine.
There's a Beard somewhere in my family(Kenneth)
unsure as to whether 1st.or 2nd.cousin to my mom.
probably born 1930's Dudley area.(great?)
Anyway "plod on"
Jacquelineve.
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Don't give up - I am fresh back from my holidays - some of which was spent in Kent RO, looking up a link I have been digging around for 12 years in London. At last I have found the family before they got to London, but that is another story! Perseverance is the name of the game!
I do have lots of Scrivenses on my tree, but they come from Gloucestershire originally. I don't have any links to Worcestershire on that side I'm afraid. I did check out a group in Colwall/Hollybush/Bromsberrow area, but I don't know if they moved further north. I'll keep my eyes open as the name leaps out of a page at me sometimes.
If you want to mail me some details I'll try to look out anything useful.
Regards
Dahlia
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Hi Mike...I am on the Scriven hunt too, but I don't think I can help you. I don't know any Beards in my tree.
My Scrivens come from Alveley....
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Surely I'm not the only member of my family tracing Beards and Scrivens in Worcestershire. I did find one lady who listed my father in her family tree, BUT when I e-mailed her I got a reply from her husband saying she died 3 months before (I felt awfull) and he had no knowledge.
Do you know anyone with links to Scrivens, Kings Heath, Beards in West Bromwich, Beard in Worcestershire?
I feel so lonely ???
Mike
Hi mike,
While browsing through some scriven paperwork I found the following - hope it helps -
Florence E Scriven born 1920 -registered Wolverhampton mothers maiden name Beard
Sarah E Scriven born 1921 - registered wolverhampton.
mothers maiden name Beards
Eliza Scriven born 1924- registered wolverhampton
mothers maiden name Beards
Emma Scriven born 1925 - registered Wolverhmapton
mothers maiden name Beard
William Scriven born 1927 - registered Wolverhampton
motehrs maiden name Beards
Beatrice Scriven born 1933- registered wolverhmapton
mothers maiden name Beard
Hope it helps in some small way
alveleyhistorian
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Hi...anyone know what became of Wiliam James Scriven b. Alveley ca. 1874?
Last 'seen' on the 1901 census aged 27, single and a police constable, living at Dudley police station
Is he likely to be connected to this lot?
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HI Mike,
While in Birmingham Library I found this in the index to burials in Lodge Hill Cemetery:
Mary Scrivens, buried March 9th 1913, no. 845 in register, 674 C8 (not sure if that's the plot number).
Any help?
Dahlia
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Hi Diane
I think your msg was for Mike not for me.... Best wishes, Barbara
HI Mike,
While in Birmingham Library I found this in the index to burials in Lodge Hill Cemetery:
Mary Scrivens, buried March 9th 1913, no. 845 in register, 674 C8 (not sure if that's the plot number).
Any help?
Diane Scrivens
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Sorry about the above - I am so dense tonight! ::) I thought this had been a private msg. Duh!
Goodnight all!!
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I have James Lacon Beard in my family tree. He was born in about 1840 in Old Swinfors Worcestershire. Although James' parents James Lacon Beard and Mary Salt had originally come from St Leonards, Shropshire. I have only ever found one other person searching my line of the Beard's.
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I found the name .xxxx Lacon Beard in Powick, Worcs. I'll look out my notes and post them for you.
Modified: OOOOPS this was Loggon Beard - sorry
Our Beards are all in Worcesershire.
Mike
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Hello Mike,
I am seeking information on the Beard/Scrivens line.I understand that Rosina Scrivens married George Beard in about 1887. Their son Alfred was born on 19.11.1887;later married twice. His first wife and he produced several children;
1. Alfred James Thomas born 31.7.1920-20.6.1995
2. Rose
3. Eva Beatrice
4. Alice
5. Landon Donald,at whose birth both mother and baby died.
Alfred (1) then remarried Lillian Maud Taylor
Does this sound like your family?
I would very much like to hear from you .
Yours sincerely, Judith Wakefield.
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Rosina Scrivens and George Beard are my Grandparents!!!!
I have census info for Rosinas family.
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Hi Mike
Thanks for your interest. My Gt Grandmother was Elizabeth Mary Scrivens, b. 14 Sep 1850, Eastington, Glos. She was the daughter of Elizabeth Scrivens (b.abt 1816) & Richard Scrivens (b.abt 1811) who were possibly cousins given that they both had the surname Scrivens before marriage. Elizabeth Mary married Richard Pinchin and moved to Worcestershire sometime around 1882. They had 12 children, Richard, Willm, Sarah Ann, Fanny, Agnes, Charles, Elizabeth, Kate, John, Gertrude, Albert & Sydney. Does this ring any bells?
Julie
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Oh dear, I'm sorry, I have lots of Scrivens listed but not one that ties in with your group. I trust you wont mind if I add these to my book in the hope that we might find a link at some time.
Mike
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Mike
You probably have the Scrivens Gedcom file that I already have then (from Scrivens 1580 and Joane Green?), it's been doing the rounds. I've a strong feeling that my Scrivens do tie into it, it's just that no one has found the link yet. I've gone as far back as Richard Scrivens, b. abt 1770 who married Jane --?--, possibly Northleach area. A trip to the GLS records office might fill in the blanks when I can find the time.
Julie
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No I dont have that one, can you e-mail it to me, I will then send you the 14 page pdf.
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Mike
The Scrivens gedcom file I have is online at http://genforum.genealogy.com/cgi-bin/pageload.cgi?Richard,SCrivens::scriven::152.html
I've a feeling there are one or two errors though.
Julie
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hello mike,
have you any information on 9291 pte herbert thomas beard of the 1st worcestershire regiment killed in action 16/3/15. i have a copy of his service papers from the national archive. he came from the barbourne area
beardie
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Sorry, not one of ours!
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Update: VERY LARGE PDF file of Scrivens family tree now available at
Due to hosting problems this file is no longer on line - please e-mail me.
this includes many side branched not just the Beard and Scrivens direct line.
Please let me know if you find a link.
Mike
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I have an Ann Beard married to a Richard Cooper in 1813 in Birmingham. Ann was from Wolverhampton. From over here in OZ I am not sure if this is close to your area?
I have no other info about the Beard family, but quite a bit about the Coopers
Nelle
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Any updates on this old string folks?
Mike
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morning mike ;D
not a lot to add from me! my beard lot came to oldbury in the 1830s from the stoke prior area!
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Hiya all
Just to let you know I have now pushed my Beard family back a couple of generations
Ann Beard b 1832 Cookley father John Beard b 1799 Monmouth father John b c1774 died 1823 Redbrook Gloucs - unfortunately now stuck again
If you end up researching Gloucestershire dont forget the brilliant Forest of Dean site where they are transcribing all the parish records http://www.forest-of-dean.net/ - you have to register but it is free and they also cover some parts of Herefordshire
If you are researching Wolverhampton try the Wolverhampton Archive site http://www.wolverhamptonhistory.org.uk/resources/familyhistory
Or FreeREG http://freereg.rootsweb.com/cgi/Search.pl which has a lot of Wolverhampton records on it
Willow x
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I finally found the answer to my family mystery.
GtGtGt Grandad Joseph Watkins was transported to Australia in 1852 for stealing sheep.
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Well done
See the truth information is out there
Its just wading through everything else to find it ::)
Willow x
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I seem to have come to a bit of a full stop with my Scrivens lot. I really need to go to Gloucestershire RO to get any further. I have 2 separate Scrivens lines (yes, I have a male Scrivens marrying a female Scrivens in my tree, they may have been cousins but no link as yet) but neither line seems to tie into anyone else's tree!! :-[
Julie
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Hi jaybeebuzz...
Do your Scriven lines ever mingle with mine?......mainly in Alveley, Bewley,Kidderminster and also Stourbridge around 1911?
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Not that I know of Scriv2. I've not checked the 1911 census for my Scrivens lot yet but up to 1901, at any rate, they stayed put in Gloucestershire. The only one who moved to Worcestershire was my gt grandmother Elizabeth Mary Scrivens, b. 1850 Eastington, Gls, daughter of Richard & Elizabeth Scrivens (nee Scrivens!). She and her husband, Richard Pinchin, moved to Croome D'Abitot, WOR sometime between 1881 and 1891 and later settled in Eckington.
Julie
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I have Scriven's in my tree in Shropshire & Worcestershire.
Shropshire 1724-1774 and Worcestershire 1556-1679
Any likelyhood of a connection?
Maggie
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Should have said ...... My Scriven's are in Hanley Castle c1600
M
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Hi Maggie
Unfortunately I've not got anywhere near that far back with mine so I don't know!
Julie
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Maggie-R
My lot are around Hanley Castle, I wonder if we have a link.
Mike
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Mike
I think there is a good chance that we are connected as I notice there is a Beard in my tree (level with my grandparents generation) and some other people from Hanley (is this the same place as Hanley Castle?) in that bit of the tree in the 19th C.
I've sent you an email.
Maggie
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As they say at 20-20 cricket Yahoooooooo.
My lot are Beards, we are related (mind you you might not be pleased about that ;D)
Cant wait for your PDF, I'm sure we will have lots to share. Hanley Castle is often just called Hanley, but there is Hanley Swan as well.
Once more RC comes good, may thanks to all admin, techies and mods. And its freeeee!
Mike
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Brilliant!
I have now pretty much established the my Beard Family came from Framilode Glos and moved to Redbrook Glos before some of them moved over to Cookley Worcs
Willow x
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Oh dear, no link.
I did have some info relating to the PDF tree from another three independent sources that might help.
Mike
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In the book Broseley and its surrounds by john randall,it mentions The Old Hall an old house at Coalford Jackfield Shropshire that was owned by a Lacon Beard,in a diary of Lacon Beard it says on the 10th of march 1832 the house was pulled down by Lord Foresters men after being in the family since 25th March 1595,the Lacon family were the original owners of the property and connected to the Beards.
in 1657 a James Lacon and his wife Dorothy of the West Coppice leased the Old Hall to Phillips Reynolds,James and Dorothy Lacon had a son called John.
I have the Beard on my family tree, the Beards inter married with the Potts family many times over the generations,my grt grand parents x 4 were William Potts and Drucilla Lloyd both decended from members of the Beard family.The Beard family vaults were at the Red Church Jackfield,grave stones for Beards are also in St Leonards Church Broseley Shropshire and a cast iron grave stone for a Eustace Beard is in Benthall Church.Extracts of wills for some Beards can be found in the book miners and mariners of the severn gorge.
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Hi Mike
The name Scriven is being researched by a member of GOONS so you cn bet that they are researching all variants - I don't know what part of the country this member is researching but why not have a look at the site as it may be WOR
All the very best
Phil
Weston-super-Mare
born Worcester City