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Research in Other Countries => New Zealand => New Zealand Completed Requests => Topic started by: jericho on Sunday 24 September 06 08:19 BST (UK)
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Jacob Henry Granger was born in 1848, Kent England and is believed to have arrived in New Zealand abt 1866 and settled in Foxhill Nelson. So it is possible he landed in Nelson.
He married Mary Jane Andrews in 1874 in Wakefield. I would like to know what ship he arrived on and did he travel alone.
jericho
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Hi Jericho,
I've just found this on the web...http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~nzbound/from_range_to_river.htm
Waimea South Historical Society. 'From River to Range'. Gives names and brief biographies of many early families immigrating to the Nelson region 1840-1880. To commemorate the 150th anniversary of European settlement. These names appear in the booklet...
GRANGER Jacob Henry 1848-1893
This is more than likely your guy. Maybe you should give it a shot and try the WSHS to see if they have some more details on how and when he arrived.
Cheers
Bunny 8)
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Hi Bunny
I see a few names that I am researching on the list so I will contact them to see what they have available. thanks
jericho
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Hi Jericho
Unfortunately the entry in the book doesn't say which ship he came on - it says that he died in a horse and trap accident and lists his wife, children and their spouses and the family of the son Charles Alfred. Let me know if you want the full entry for him or others.
Regards, Bronwen
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Hi Bronwen
Yes I would appreciate all the information, on both Jacob and his son Charles. Thanks
jericho
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Hi Jericho,
Since I've got to go down to Archives for something else in the next week or so I'll have a look to see if your Mr Granger turns up in the passenger index, yeah?
Cheers
Bunny 8)
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Hi Bunny
That would be fantastic if you could, waiting to hear what you might find, thanks.
jericho
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"GRANGER Jacob Henry: 1848-1893
Arrived in New Zealand about 1866, married in 1874 at St John's to Mary Jane Andrews 1857-1945. He was from Kent, he died in a horse and trap accident at Top House leaving a family of nine. They lived at Foxhill and later at Wai-iti.
Minnie Drusilla married William Wadsworth.
Alice Maude married Bob McCann.
John Wmn. (Billy) was a waggoner in the Murchison area.
May Catherine was Mrs Wmn. S Jefferies-Bryant.
Charles Alfred married Sarah Belle Griffith and they farmed in Trass Valley.
Henry Claude drowned aged 20.
Ethel Eliza was Mrs Peter Jack Higgins, they went to the West Coast.
Fred married Wilmot Mary Kerr.
Leonard Frank remained single, he lived at Foxhill.
The family of Charles Alfred still farm at Wai-iti today, they were:
Claude E. who died in an accident at the tinline.
Lewis S. who married Doris M. Gardiner whose son Vic still farms the land.
Margery M. who married J.H. Mansell and Fred Storey.
Harriett May who married Denis A. Ellery.
Douglas H. who married Betty Jeski and still lives at Wai-iti."
Section Two, Pages 68 and 69, "From River To Range" by Waimea South Historical Society
The reference in Section One, Page 12 is to Gwen Granger who appears in a list of those who worked at the telephone exchange.
The marriage references in case you don't have some of them:
1894, Folio 1580, GRANGER Minnie Drusilla, WADSWORTH William
1908, Folio 5110, GRANGER Alice Maude, McCANN Robert James
1902, Folio 5526, GRAINGER May Catherine, BRYANT William Sydney Paisley Jeffrys
1902, Folio 5526, GRAINGER May Catherine, JEFFRYS-BRYANT William Sydney Paisley
1906, Folio 2814, GRANGER Charles Alfred, GRIFFITH Sarah Bell Hopewell
1908, Folio 3244, GRANGER Ethel Eliza, HIGGINS Peter John
1909, Folio 1096, GRANGER Frederick, KERR Wilmott Mary
(*)GRANGER Lewis Sydney, GARDINER Doris Marjorie
(*)GRANGER Marjory Mary Hopewell, MANSELL John Henry
(*)MAUNSELL Marjory Mary Hopewell, STOREY Frederick Walter
(*)GRANGER Harriet Mary, ELLERY Denis Albert
There are also a couple of references to Granger Brothers mill, J H Granger and Billy Granger in a book called "Footprints: The story of the settlement and development of the Nelson back country districts" by J.N.W. Newport, if you would like them too.
Regards, Bronwen
(*) Moderator Comment:
Information deleted as it is likely to contravene NZ law (BDMRR Amendment Act 2008)
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Hi Bronwen
That is fantastic, yes I would like the information for the Granger Brothers as it will help complete this part of my research. Thanks for all your wonderful help.
Regards jericho
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"Bush sections had been taken up by a few selectors during the 1890s but most of this area was surveyed only about 1904 and opened for selection in 1906. The 1906 map, signed by R.T. Sadd, showed that certain sections were already sold, buyers including T.W. Mead, J.H. Granger and H.C. Knapp. The upset price varied 7s., 7s. 6d. to 8s. an acre. A hut was shown at Chinaman Gully and also one at Digger's Creek.
Thomas Mead of Foxhill had taken his section in the 1890s and his son Arnold ran this property until comparatively recent years. The section taken up by H.C. Knapp had some bush felled on it but most remained in bush and was not grazed. J.H. Granger was accidentally killed and his property was later owned by George Herwin who farmed there during his working life."
Page 149
"In an article about the Buller waggons which appreared in the Weekly News on December 8, 1954, Bob Henderson, writing about his experiences from 1904 onwards states: 'Trips to Lake Station were popular with Billy Granger and me. A man named Thomlinson was in charge and provided us with guns and ammunition when we went shooting rabbits not far from the homestead. Rabbits were so thick in the dusk of the evening that we could have almost kicked them out of our way so we nominated one colour to shoot down.' "
Page 77
"Finally on the subject of waggoning, it should be noted that Bob Henderson has written some of his reminiscences about the days when he and Billy Granger were driving the Buller waggons and a series of articles has been published in the Auckland Weekly News."
Page 354
"From some time after the railway was opened timber and firewood became important local industries. The bush grew close to the railway line and the cut firewood could be loaded on to trucks easily and cheaply. In many cases this trade provided settlers with ready money to help them develop their properties. From time to time samilling also provided a good deal of employment. While it is not possible to trace all mills, mention should be made of Lou Kerr's mill and that of Granger Bros at Tui. In 1921 Messrs Thorn and Company put in a big milling plant on Polgaze's property but the venture failed as there was not sufficient suitable timber to keep the mill running"
Page 282
"........ In 1919 Granger Bros were loading 'cut of mill' timber on the rail at Tui for 1 pound a hundred super feet. Grangers' men were working on contract: three men delivered logs on the skids for 3s. 6d. a hundred, three men in the mill received 6s. 6d. a hundred, while the 'truckie' was also paid at 6s. 6d. a hundred. The bushmen did well if the weather was fine or they did not break the wire rope too often, as it took four hours to put it in a 12-ft splice. In wet weather they sometimes earned as little as 1 pound a month each".
Page 367
From "Footprints" by J.N.W. Newport, 1962
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Hi Bronwen
Thank you for all that information, not only has it given me some insight to what was happening at the time, but I have also sent it to Jacob descendants so it hopefully will help them in their research. Thanks for all the time you have spent on this.
jericho :)
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Hi Jericho,
Sorry, mate! I looked but your Mr Granger doesn't appear in the card index. If he's not there then there is always the very distinct possibility that he came via Australia as the card index is only for ships direct from Britain.
NZSG is due to come out with the Victoria passengers index next year, or maybe you could try posting on the Oz board.
Cheers
Bunny 8)
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Hi Bunny
It was worth a try had not considered that he may have gone to Australia first, but if he's not on the index card, he must have arrived from somewhere, will think about posting in Australia. Thanks for your help.
jericho :)
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Instead of starting a new post, I'll post this little bit of information in the hope that someone may be able to help identify whether these two men are infact the same man, or help me by finding the newspaper article or court case. A 19 year old John Granger was convicted of stowing away on the coastal ship SS Taranaki from Port Chalmers to Lyttelton on the 21 July 1866 could this have been Jacob Granger. Another family theory is that he may have been a crew member on board ship from England and jumped ship once he arrived in NZ. I now know that Jacob doesn't appear on any index cards for passenger entry into NZ, so could he have jumped ship. ???
jericho
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Hi Jericho,
Just started researching my gran's family line and from the very little information, I have found it has led me to your post.
Valda Rae (Higgins); Daughter of Peter John Higgins and Ethel Eliza Higgins (Granger) was my Great Gran.
I am very interested in any family information you may have of my line and how we may be related.
I look forward to hearing from you.
Nga mihi
Hannah
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Hi Hannah
I have PM you