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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Suffolk Lookup Requests => Suffolk => England => Suffolk Completed Lookup Requests => Topic started by: cath151 on Saturday 16 September 06 14:40 BST (UK)
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Hi,
I would be very grateful if anyone could do a marriage look up in the Mendlesham, Hartismere , Bosmere districts of Suffolk for:
John Ager born c. 1791 Mendlesham and
Mary ?? born c.1796.
Their first child Alfred was born c. 1823
Many thanks
Cathy
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4th March 1817 AGER JN CLAIDON (or Claydon) MARY WRATTING GREAT SUFFOLK
The only marriage on Boyds marriage index. Also found on the IGI but not in the Mendlesham area.
Was Alfred their first child?
1841 census HO1023/12 folio 5 page 3
Green Mendlesham Suffolk
John Ager 20 Suffolk Male Servant
Regards
Valda
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Hi Cathy
This might be them from The Suffolk Index.
John AGER to Mary CLARKE Married at Mendlesham on 25 Jul 1817
Both single and of the parish of Mendlesham.
Rick :)
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Hi,
Thankyou both very much, thinking about it, Alfred might not have been the first child. I have the family on the 1841 census.
It could be either of them, i will try and investigate further.
Thankyou both so much for your time.
Best wishes
cathy :)
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Hello,
I've just found the record of John's marriage to Mary in 1817 and I believe their firs child was my ancestor - Henry, baptised in Mendlesham in December 1817. I know this original post is very old but can I pick your brains about the family a little bit if you have some more information, please? I'd be very happy to share what I know if it helps.
Regards,
Audrey
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Hi Audrey,
Welcome to Rootschat!
The Ager side is my partners family, originating from Mendlesham. He is descended through Alfred Ager born c1823 who went on to marry Sarah Browse.
Quickly looking at my research I have Alfred as son of John Ager and Mary Clarke, along with siblings John,Frederick,Maria,Charles and George and now possibly Henry.
I have a possible baptism for John 16/03/1781 son of Joseph and Mary Hemp. Also possible marriage Joseph Eager and Mary Hemp(Kemp) 2 June 1775.
Very happy to share anything I have and maybe pick your brains too!
Once you have made three posts we can communicate through pms which is more private and easier.
Best wishes
Cathy
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Cath,
Thank you for the welcome! This is my first experience of Roots - or much outside Ancestry.co.uk to be honest!
My maiden name is Ager so I'm a fairly direct descendant which makes it all the more interesting. I had done a lot of work on Henry and his parents but only recently (this Summer) found out I'd been chasing the wrong John Ager - a John Ager from Clare who was a millwright rather than a wheelwright. I'll take a few deep breaths here and be in touch more intelligently in the next day or so!
Thanks again,
Audrey
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Cathy,
I have the record for John's marriage to Mary Clark or Clarke and Henry's baptism on 7th December 1817 in Mendlesham. Father's occupation was given as wheelwright and I know from the Suffolk Records Office research that the baptism records for some of the other children of John and Mary show father's occupation as wheelwright or agricultural labourer so I'm presuming he (John) had up and down fortunes.
I'm pretty sure I have found John and Mary and the children in the 1841 and 1851 census although John and Mary's ages vary greatly. I can find no record of Henry anywhere until his 1948 marriage to Charlotte Wright in Coddenham. Henry was a shoemaker and I can't find him in Mendlesham or Coddenham but he may have gone further afield for some sort of shoemaking apprenticeship? I have followed Henry after his marriage until his death.
I think Henry must have been the eldest child of John and Mary and presume he was born fairly soon after their marriage?
Did you find the birth and marriage information for John Ager on FamilySearch or elsewhere? Do you have any confirmed information regarding the death of John and Mary as there are several possibilities listed in the death indexes?
Audrey
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In 1851 Henry & Charlotte Ager were living in Coddenham
1861 & 1871 they were in Ipswich
Henry died in Ipswich in 1879
Charlotte was living in Ipswich with her large brood in 1881
Could she have died in West Suffolk in 1887?
In 1891 some of the Charlotte's grand children were in a children's home in St John's Ipswich
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Interesting to see a new post on this one. I've been able to do quite a bit since this was 'live' and have notes:
"....... Two years later, on 11th September 1881, Charlotte was probably still living with her son Charles and his young, and expanding, family and re-married at the St. Mary Elms parish church. Charlotte was now 63 years old and married a George Herbert Gladding who was a 70 year old widower. George was a local barber giving his address as St. Mary Elms and his father as James Gladding, a butcher. In the years since her first marriage in 1848 Charlotte had not learnt to write her own name and still had to make her mark – an ‘X’.
Charlotte was again widowed on 28th October 1890 when George Gladding died in the parish of St. Nicholas, Ipswich aged 79 years old. An inquest was held on the same day but the cause of death on the death certificate is illegible.
In 1891 Charlotte appears on the census at an address in Mount Court, Ipswich. Charlotte says she has no occupation but is head of the household and a widow. Her age is given as 71 years old. Also living at this address is Charlotte’s grandson (Charles and Caroline’s eldest son) William who is now aged 16 years old and gives his occupation as flower seller.
Charlotte died on 30th May 1895 and the death certificate says she is 76 years old. Charlotte died of old age in the Union Workhouse in Ipswich and her death was registered by C. Grayson, the Master."
Audrey