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Title: Jane McGUIGAN 1901 censes
Post by: jan.gillies on Saturday 09 September 06 14:18 BST (UK)
Married Patrick McKenzie in Alloa in 1898 know nothing else about her looking for parents or where she was born
Title: Re: Jane McGuigan 1901 censes
Post by: Gadget on Monday 11 September 06 11:58 BST (UK)
Hi Jan

There are quite a lot of Jane McKenzie (variations) on the 1901 - none that I can find in Alloa or Clackmannanshire.

I found the marriage cert which does give her parents:

GROS Ref - 465-A page 70 :  10 August 1898, Aloa - after Publication according to the Forms of the Roman Catholic Church

Patrick McKenzie, Bricklayer, bach, 22

and

Jan McGuigan, Millworker, sp, 25

Her parents- Patrick McGuigan, labourer
Mary McGuigan, maiden surname Stewart

Can't yet locate a birth reg. but hope this helps.

Gadget  :)
Title: Re: Jane McGuigan 1901 censes
Post by: jan.gillies on Monday 11 September 06 13:51 BST (UK)
Thanks very much I have really struggling with this one I have relations in Alloa who went to the church but all the recordes have been sent away for repair.
Jan
Title: Re: Jane McGuigan 1901 censes
Post by: Gadget on Monday 11 September 06 14:18 BST (UK)
Hi Jan

Just to make your day  :) I've found Jane and her parents and siblings in the 1891 in Alloa:

GROS Ref - 465 -6-18

 Old Bridge Street, Alloa

Patrick McGuigan, hd, m, 54, gen labourer, b. Ireland
Mary,wife,  49, b. Ireland
Jane, 18, wool mill worker, b. Stirling, Denny
Lizzie, 15, wool mill worker,  b. Stirling, Denny
Patrick, 11, scholar,  b. Stirling, Denny
James, 5, scholar,  b. Stirling, Denny

Gadget  :D
Title: Re: Jane McGuigan 1901 censes
Post by: jan.gillies on Monday 11 September 06 14:36 BST (UK)
you are an angel I notice you research R & C thats where I live I have the censes for the SMall Isles for 1851 r they any help to u if not i do not mind searching round graveyards
jan
Title: Re: Jane McGuigan 1901 censes
Post by: Gadget on Monday 11 September 06 15:01 BST (UK)
HI Jan

Small world - I live here too - west coast :D

I do some local research for friends but don't have family links - mine are mainly D & G.

Thanks for your kind offer - I'llbear it in mind  :)

Don't envy you your search for your Irish roots now though  :-\


Gadget
Title: Re: Jane McGuigan 1901 censes
Post by: jan.gillies on Monday 11 September 06 15:04 BST (UK)
i am east coast originally london husband scot though hence the link
jan
Title: Re: Jane McGUIGAN 1901 censes
Post by: jan.gillies on Monday 11 September 06 15:40 BST (UK)
i am being cheeky now but could u confirm Patrick MvKenzies parents for me Jane mcguigan husband I believe u got the info off the marriage certificate. I think I have the wrong parents for him James mckenzie and susan devine?
Title: Re: Jane McGUIGAN 1901 censes
Post by: Gadget on Monday 11 September 06 15:47 BST (UK)
Hi Jan

They were indeed James McKenzie, labourer and Susan Devine  :)

Would you like me to check for them on the 1891 or Patrick's birth?

Gadget
Title: Re: Jane McGUIGAN 1901 censes
Post by: jan.gillies on Monday 11 September 06 15:51 BST (UK)
I think patrick wa born in 1875 but yes if u can find them on the censes that would br great have found jane on the 1881 censes
Title: Re: Jane McGUIGAN 1901 censes
Post by: Gadget on Monday 11 September 06 15:58 BST (UK)
Were the McKenzie's from Alloa do you know?

Gadget
Title: Re: Jane McGUIGAN 1901 censes
Post by: jan.gillies on Monday 11 September 06 16:02 BST (UK)
jane and Patrick lived there and raised a family  I think pat came from Clackmmannen but not completely sure
Title: Re: Jane McGUIGAN 1901 censes
Post by: jan.gillies on Monday 11 September 06 16:35 BST (UK)
where did 'melrose' come from I thought his parents were james mckenzie and susan devinesorru if i am being a pest
jan
Title: Re: Jane McGUIGAN 1901 censes
Post by: Gadget on Monday 11 September 06 16:36 BST (UK)
Hi Jan

Patrick's birth record: GROS Ref - 466

November 25 1875, New Sauckie, Clackmannan

James Archibald McKenzie, woollen weaver and Susan Devine. Married 21 February 1873, Melrose.

I expect you'd quite like their marriage record to find their parents :)

Gadget

PS Melrose came from where they were married - woollen trade I expect
Title: Re: Jane McGUIGAN 1901 censes
Post by: Gadget on Monday 11 September 06 16:46 BST (UK)
Here we are and then your units are up  :)

GROS Ref - 776 B 8 - Ladhope, Roxburgh

21 February 1873, the Catholic Chapel, after banns according to the forms of the R Catholic Church

James A McKenzie, woollen weaver, bach, 28 - parents Alexander McKenzie, woollen weaver, dec. and Elizabeth m.s. Moncrief

and

Susan Divine, winder, sp, 22 - parents Patrick Divine, labourer, and Rosa m.s. Maguire

They both signed.

Gadget   :)
Title: Re: Jane McGUIGAN 1901 censes
Post by: jan.gillies on Monday 11 September 06 16:51 BST (UK)
I have been trying to find jane and patrick for the last six months no help from family members who live in  new sauchie and alloa you really have helped a damsel in distress husband getting quite humpy because all I was doing was my own family
jan
Title: Re: Jane McGUIGAN 1901 censes
Post by: Gadget on Monday 11 September 06 17:12 BST (UK)
Well Jan

I hope that he will be happy that a west coast  Welsh/Scottish/English mongrel has helped :)

Think it might be worth your posting on the Roxburgh board next.

But given their RC religion it would be worth checking up on the availability of those records for that area before 1855 - note their ages. I'm not really knowledgeable about these.

Checkout the 'how to research' thread on the top of the Scottish Board it may give some info on these.

Gadget   :)

Title: Re: Jane McGUIGAN 1901 censes
Post by: sdapeze on Sunday 07 September 08 12:55 BST (UK)
Would Jan Gillies please contact me over her DEATH interest.
Title: Re: Jane McGUIGAN 1901 censes
Post by: diddymiller on Sunday 07 September 08 15:53 BST (UK)
mckenzies on the Clackmannshire surnames list at:

www.dgnscrn.demon.co.uk/genuki/CLK/misc/surnames
May be worth a look

Diddy