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Title: griffiths
Post by: yogibear on Monday 04 September 06 20:49 BST (UK)

can anyone locate alfred griffiths born bersham 1878, on the 1891 and 1901 census to find out if married and family. also sarah e griffiths born bersham 1876/77.

Title: Re: griffiths
Post by: Gadget on Monday 04 September 06 21:04 BST (UK)

Hi

Do you have his parents' names. The 1891 has three possibles:

Price and Mary - indexed as Price but looks like Reece to me  ::)

Edward and Francesca

Sarah E



Gadget

Title: Re: griffiths
Post by: Gadget on Monday 04 September 06 21:17 BST (UK)

Here's the Sarah one anyway:

1891

RG12/4614  58 page 35

Bersham, Adwy
6 Adwy Gate Road

Sarah E griffiths,hd, wd, 46, Housekeeper, b.Wrexham, speaks both E & W
John, son, 22, coal miner, b.Nant, speaks both
Alfred E, son, 12, farm labourer,b. Adwy, speaks both

Gadget

Title: Re: griffiths
Post by: Gadget on Monday 04 September 06 21:23 BST (UK)

And I think this his him in 1901 - married  :)

1901

Bersham - Minera, St Mary's
RG13/5219 104 20
7 Rock Place
Alfred Edward, hd, 22, coal miner hewer, b. Bersham, speaks both E & W
Martha Ann, wife, 20, b. Gwesylt, spks both
Ada Violet, daughter, 20 mths, b. Broughton, sp. English


Gadget

Title: Re: griffiths
Post by: yogibear on Tuesday 05 September 06 07:58 BST (UK)

yes gadget you are right. his mother was sarah e griffiths. his dad was edward , but i couldn't find him on the censuses. he was about the saME age has her.i don't know when they died either.

Title: Re: griffiths
Post by: Gadget on Tuesday 05 September 06 08:14 BST (UK)

It would seem that Edward died at sometime between the 1881 census and the 1891 that I've shown above.
I assume you have seen the 1881, where Sarah, aged 37,  is shown as married rather than widowed and is an engine driver's wife - living at Hughes's Row, Adywrclawdd, Bersham. With her are John, 12, Robert, 10, Sarah E, 4, and Alfred E, 2. All are shown as being born Wrexham. REf is RG11/5515 V. 70 P. 6.

I'll check on deaths during the 1880s for Edward.

Gadget

Title: Re: griffiths
Post by: Gadget on Tuesday 05 September 06 08:23 BST (UK)

If you go to www.ancestry.co.uk and search their FREE BMD index, you'll find that there are a number of Edward Griffiths deaths in the 1881-1891 period in the Wrexham/Chester area.

The most likely one is:
December Quarter 1883, Wrexham, Vol. 11b, page 197,  aged 39.

The North Wales BMD Index shows quite a number of Edward's also, mainly registered Ruabon - which is possible - It's worth checking this out as well. It does give the local Registry Office Ref though rather than the GRO one:

http://www.northwalesbmd.org.uk/deaths.html

Gadget

Title: Re: griffiths
Post by: FRANK DAVIES on Sunday 15 October 06 21:41 BST (UK)

hI

iS SARAH GRIFFITHS A MARRIED NAME OR IS SHE NE....DAVIES?

Title: Re: griffiths
Post by: yogibear on Monday 16 October 06 08:07 BST (UK)

sarah was a jones before she married.

Title: Re: griffiths
Post by: wrjones on Monday 16 October 06 10:43 BST (UK)

Further to the main thread,the 1871 Census shows that Edward Griffiths was born in Pentrebychan Denbighshire in c 1845.

Regards
William Russell Jones
Cefn Mawr
Wrexham.

Title: Re: griffiths
Post by: yogibear on Tuesday 03 April 07 08:50 BST (UK)

thanks for info concentrating on find the daughter  who was born before they married.