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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Derbyshire => Topic started by: pennine on Monday 04 September 06 01:21 BST (UK)
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Hi I am looking for any information on a Chesterfield Football player by the name of EDWIN NEVE, often referred to as Ned Neve or sometimes mispelt as Neave. I know he was born in Prestwich and after playing at Hull moved to Chesterfield. He died when quite young but I do not know how or where.
Any help would be much appreciated.
Pennine
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Hi Pennine,
Have you tried www.allfootballers.com ?
I found my footballer ancestor on there and it was quite a good site.
I've looked for "Neve" and found that they have him as:
Ned Neve (W-Winger?) from 1906 to 1911 Hull City
from 1912 to 1913 Derby County
from 1914 to 1914 Nottingham Forrest
Could this be him?
If you click on his name, they also have his date of birth as 03/05/1885, born in Prescot, and died 1920.
He played 102 games for Hull and scored 12 goals, 47 games for Derby and scored 1 goal and 35 games for Notts Forrest and scored 3 goals.
There's also more info on league position etc.
Sally
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Hi again,
I've found his death on 1837online.
Edwin Neve age 35 Sept 1/4 1920 Prescot 8b 599.
Sally
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Hi Sally thank you so much for your help, at last a breakthrough. I knew he was born in Prescott but had no idea about his death now I can get the certificate.
Thank you for your help.
Pennine
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could this be him
bombadier edwin neve
80636
royal garrison artillery.
served in ww1
mack
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Hi Mack I don't really know. How would I check that one out? It is very confusing and I am probably very thick.
Thanks for the information.
Pennine
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his football career stopped at 1914 which suggests he joined up,hes the only edwin neve who served in ww1,and he didnt resume his football career after the war which could mean he was suffering from the effects of his war service,either wounds or sickness,he would have been demobilised from the army between jan/apr 1919,there could be something in his hometown newspapers about him being wounded,hes a local celeb,i would contact notts forest and ask if they know of any war service,theres a good pal of mine on the armed forces board[monsstar] who does research at kew,his attestation papers will give all his personal details if they survived the blitz,many were destroyed in ww2,mack
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Hello again,
Most leagues stopped playing matches during the war period, considered a bit frivolous while others were out fighting the war, so he could have been out on a limb during the war. Could be one reason to sign up. But not necessarily.
Some footballers did enlist, I'm sure there was at least one regiment that was made up of previous football players, but others did other work until the leagues got going again after the war. Some footballers continued to play in minor leagues, possibly to keep fit and just be playing, that didn't compromise the bigger leagues that they usually played in.
If you visit National Archives Site www.nationalarchives.gov.uk and look at their WW1 pages, you could find more information. It sometimes gives where the soldier/airman etc came from. Might be able to narrow it down from there.
Sally :D
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Hello,
Me again. I've had a quick nosey on www.1837online.com and they have records for 2 E Neve's:
NEVE E III - London: (West, Central & North London)
NEVE EM III - London: (West, Central & North London).
Following this up on 1837online, 3 men with surname Neve ( E, EM & R) are mentioned and must have been related as the address given for all of them is 8 Williams Place, Chase Side, Enfield.
www.cwgc.org has 1 E W Neve who died 22/09/1917 and served in London Regiment.
www.nationalarchives.gov.uk has the fellow Mack mentioned earlier:
Description
Medal card of Neve, Edwin
Corps Regiment No Rank
Royal Garrison Artillery 80636 Bombardier
Date 1914-1920
Catalogue reference WO 372/14
but will cost £3.50 to download the image of the medal card, and may or may not give much more information than already shown.
Any use?
Sally
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Hi everyone thankyou so much for all your help and time will follow up your suggestions and more than likely knowing me come back for further help thank you once again.
This site is so brilliant and the members so kind and helpful.
Pennine xxxx
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penine,the medal cards dont give any personal info,if he was wounded or sick,then this will be on the card and the date of his discharge,if he was awarded a silver war badge for his disability,then there may be a pension record for him at kew,i think your lad was also a railway worker,you could try my mates on the great war forum,a couple of them have the railway roll of honour,they will gladly do a look up for you,mack[still on the run from armed forces board] ;D
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Hi yes I think I found him as Railway time clock person or something in the 1901 census but I wasn't sure it was him because he was smewhere in Southern England got the details somewhere will have to dig them out. Some things might be falling into place a little bit.Thanks.
Pennine
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I am checking through the details of this Edwin Neve having obtained his death certificate. He died on 3rd August 1920 from Valvular Herat Disease at the home of his father, William Neve, 42 Queens Road, Prescot. His MIC contains nothign beyond the roll reference for his VM & BWM.
He is commemorated on the Rood Screens inside Prescot Parish Church and was buried in the churchyard at Prescot. As part of my research into the men of Prescot who fell in the Great War, I am trying to determine the reason for his discharge from the army as Edwin is not commemorated by CWGC.
If anybody can add anything at all to the details I have on Edwin's service, and specifically anyhting on the reason for discharge, I would be really pleased to hear from them.
When he joined up in May 1916, he lived at Pear Tree Road, Derby.
Stephen Nulty
www.prescot-rollofhonour.info
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Edwins full WW1 service records are now online at Ancestry.
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