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Living in Australia, we do not get "Who do you think you are" which is such a pity. But l have been watching a program called Time Team, is this program running currently in UK? Its most interesting what they find in the allotted 3 days of digging
Jean
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Yes a wonderful show, would'nt miss it for the world.
I see they got permission to dig at one of the palaces, not sure
when that will be shown.
Mike.
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Hi Mike,
l wish they would have more programs like that instead of the rubbish that some channels are inflicking on us.
Jean
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Hi Jean and Mike,
Glad to know I am not alone! Time Team is my favourite programme on TV, along with Antiques Roadshow. I used to watch it years ago when I lived in the UK. It has been going strong for over ten years now - and seems to have a bit of a cult following in the UK while also appealing to the masses.
The Time Team website is worth a look - it lists past series, has a forum plus much more. (www.channel4.com/timeteam)
The Big Royal Dig took place last weekend and was broadcast live (UK only unfortunately - I was hoping to be up all night watching it). They dug Buckingham Palace, Windsor and Holyrood House. I imagine this will be edited into a special programme and may be available for purchase on DVD.
The ABC has acquired three series - series 10 (which aired in 2003 in the UK), series 11 (which aired in 2004 in the UK), and series 12 (which aired in 2005 in the UK). The ABC aired series 10 from May 9 to August 1, and have immediately followed that with series 11, starting on August 8.
If you enjoy Time Team tucked away on a Tuesday evening as it is (I'd like to see it on a Saturday at 8 pm) please visit the ABC website and let them know how much you like it! www.abc.net.au/ There are dozens of past series to enjoy!
My rant is over ....
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Wonderful show. I'm not a great TV watcher but we always try to have our farm work finished so we can watch this show. I also wish the ABC would broadcast it on a Saturday evening.
Skipworth in Aus
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I'm still waiting for more "Meet the Ancestors" that was also a
good show.
Wonder when (or if) we will get the 'Who do you think you are"
series here in oz.
Mike.
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I asked the ABC to consider showing "Who do you think you are".
As this show is UK based with UK celebs this may, in the ABC's eyes, be a down side to showing it in Australia?
Having said that Parkinson is still being shown, and there are many UK people on there who Aussies won't have heard of.
"Meet the ancestors" sounds excellent too.
Could be well worthwhile asking the ABC to consider these when you write to them about Time Team.
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Yep!
Love 'em all,and am VERY frustrated that these item's don't have the same air time as som other item's do.I'd really rather watch two hour's of this variety than some of the garbage that passes for entertainment.
My rant!Thank God for books.
Goggy. ;) ;D
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I've watched Time Team for years and love it and Meet the Ancestors too.
Last winter there was a really interesting programme on BBC2 I think, History Mysteries, I wonder if they will remake another series.
Kerry
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Seeing Phil Harding (Time Team), all dressed up in a suit, wondering when to remove his hat at the Queens garden party was extremely entertaining last weekend.
Have loved T.T for years. Even have all the books.
Linda.
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I missed most of TT last weekend but the bits I did see were good. It was also good to see them trying out some new presenters especially that Neil Oliver!!!!!! ::) ::)
Of course not that anyone could replace Tony Robinson!!
Kerry
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Oh yes kerry, I like Neil Oliver. Used to watch him on another archaeology programme which I have forgotten the name of. Different style to our Tony but he is good.
Linda.
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He was on that brilliant series this year Coast. As was Alice Roberts who was also on Time Team. They seem to be doing the rounds.
Kerry
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Hi All,
l am so pleased to see that all of you agree what a wonderful show Time Team is, and that there should be more of it and others like it. l agree with Goggy l would rather watch 2 hours of the likes of Time Team than the many hours spent on Big Brother (sorry if l offend some people) but to me that was mindless trash. Each to his or her own likes.
Those of us who live here in Australia hear so much about "who do you think you are" and l am surprised that the show has not come down under, since many of us are from the UK. Just perhaps we should all send emails to the ABC (in undate them with mail) they just might come to the party.
one can live in hope
Jean
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WDYTYA seems to be such a good format and seems to be growing in popularity over here so I am surprised that other countries have not taken up the idea themselves with their own celebrities?
Kerry
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Oh yes kerry, I like Neil Oliver. Used to watch him on another archaeology programme which I have forgotten the name of. Different style to our Tony but he is good.
Linda.
I first saw him on 'Two men in a trench' where they did battlefield archeology, could listen to that voice forever, beautiful!! ;)
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Ommmm I know what you mean JK!!!!! ::) ::) ::)
Was the Two men in a trench series on satellite TV because it seems to have passed me by? Someone was talking about it the other day and I'd never heard of it!
Kerry
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Kerry,
I think it was on BBC2 would have been back in 2002-3 I think (?), I didn't have sky at that time. I believe it is repeated on UKTV History now and again, oops that wont help you will it as you haven't got satellite :-[
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I obviously wasn't interested enough to watch then!!! :-\ :-\ :-\ Although I did watch House Detectives and Meet the Ancestors and have watched TT since the beginning.
Shame!
Kerry
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Kerry
Are the two programs you mention shown here in Australia, l must admit l have not heard of them, but that said l seem to be on this site at night :-[
Jean
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Sorry Jean
Can't answer that one as I am in UK, but they were on in the country about 4/5 years ago and get repeated a lot on satellite TV.
Kerry
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I adore TT, that's repeated on the Discovery Channel several times a day. It is hilarious to see Tony Robinson's changing hair do's over the years :)
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Its a shame l only have just the normal channels here in oz, so now l know why l have not heard of the shows you mention. l have just been to the ABC web site to contact them but they are having problems with email so will try again in a few days.
Jean
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;D ;D ;D
Time Team has always been compulsive viewing for me, but it's not been on TV for ages. Hope the "Buck House" dig is as good as the hype.
Here they are, Phil Harding, Tony Robinson, Karenza Lewis and Mick Aston.
;D ;D ;D
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The bits I saw Anne were quite interesting. I guess they will do a programme on it in the next series? I think they have in the past. The trouble with 4 programmes over the bank holiday is that I get to see very few of them.
Especially as 9pm in the evening is about the only time all 4 channels put good programmes on. The other 23 hours crap, but 9 pm you can always guarantee opposing good programmes!!!
Kerry
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There are DVD's of some sections available
have a look at
Amazon . co. uk Time Team DVD's (http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_ss_d_h_/202-2262676-1677462?url=search-alias%3Ddvd&field-keywords=time+team&Go.x=8&Go.y=14&Go=Go)
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If you are in the UK you can get UK-TV History on Freeview - you don't need satellite. I know coverage is not 100% yet, but its expanding quickly prior to analogue switch-off in 2012.
My only gripe with the digital stations on satellite and freeview is that they repeat the same programs over and over and over and over .... It would be nice to get a bit more variety!
Regards, Bill
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Unfortunately Bill I live in Sussex and the Government will not allow Sussex to have Freeview in case France get free UK TV. We don't even have Channel 5 yet for the same reason. :o :o :o :o :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\
And until they bring down satellite prices I will stick with 4 terrestrial channels. Hopefully they will sort it out by the time we go digital otherwise I will ditch the TV altogether!!!!
Kerry
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Unfortunately Bill I live in Sussex and the Government will not allow Sussex to have Freeview in case France get free UK TV. We don't even have Channel 5 yet for the same reason. :o :o :o :o :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\
And until they bring down satellite prices I will stick with 4 terrestrial channels. Hopefully they will sort it out by the time we go digital otherwise I will ditch the TV altogether!!!!
Kerry
Ooohh Kerry that's really mean, fancy not even having Channel 5 for goodness sake !! We love Sussex, and have had many lovely holidays there, Chichester, Bosham, Rye, Arundel, Selsea etc. etc. we even thought of re-locating there at one time. Why don't you lobby your MP ??
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Why does it mattter if France gets free UK TV Kerry? Why should we care? Seems very unfair on you guys in Sussex!!! >:(
Linda.
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Absolutely!!!! Who cares if France gets free TV from us, it might be seen as a friendly gesture for goodness sake.
Anne I love Sussex and would find it hard to leave the area, mind you if John Prescott gets his way and builds all these millions of new houses without essential services and doing something about the roads I might just be forced to!!!!
Kerry
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Who cares if France gets free TV from us
Why should we be the only ones to suffer ?
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LOL ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Kerry
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The real problem is that, if they let us have Channel 5, it might interfere with French TV. HELLO! Haven't we had to put up with interference from French TV for years? Do they care? :-X :-X
The BBC has given the same reason for the low signal strength from the Dover transmitter for Freeview, which means that, although I can see the mast from where I'm sitting (its about a mile away), I often lose all signals from the BBC channels on digital. ??? ???
They say it MIGHT improve after switchover! If not, I will lose BBC1 and BBC2 altogether!! >:( >:(
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Hi Jean
One of my fave programmes too. ;D ;D ;D
I never miss it.
Cheers Sandy
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I have been watching Time Team for years,in the days when Tony had more hair ;D and i love Phil,when Tony wines him up ;D Tony has had to make a quick exit a few times to avoid Phil's Wrath ;D and thats real not put on for show. I have a didgie box so repeats are on there,i get to see progames i missed.Like tonight Sunday on More Four at 7p.m they are in Sussex.
Celia
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I have watched the team from the start (and over again when repeated) I miss some of the early team such as Robin , Mick the dig (now Mick the twig having taken up dendrochronology)and you don't see Carenza at all now. :'(
On a brighter note,I wonder if any of Victors drawings are ever made available to the general public ?
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Robin was fantastic, always so knowledgable and interesting. That would the role I would like to do, the research in the libraries and archives and coming up with the stories behind the digging!
Kerry
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No victors drawings dont ever get made available to the public well not to buy. One or two end up in local museums though. Mick The Twig is now a respected dendrochronologist. Carenza as moved onto bigger and better things, thank god. Phil shouldnt be digging because of his back but hey he is only in a trench long enough to take the glory. Tony R is an authority on Bible Archaeology. Mick Aston holds no archaeology degree whatsoever.
Now all that said the program is not archaeology its a TV program and it wrankles us pro archaeologists. Even those like me who dont dig anymore. Those who saw the recent royal dig on more4 live got to see what real archaeology is about and not the look what we found the one hour shows produce. TT served its purpose in introducing Archaeology to the masses but as now run its course and should be dropped in its present format.
Oh yes I have dug with TT as well and hated it
Rob
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I'm still waiting for more "Meet the Ancestors" that was also a
good show.
Wonder when (or if) we will get the 'Who do you think you are"
series here in oz.
Mike.
MTA was dropped a few years ago in the UK
Rob
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Oh yes kerry, I like Neil Oliver. Used to watch him on another archaeology programme which I have forgotten the name of. Different style to our Tony but he is good.
Linda.
Two men in a Trench was the series and they have no plans for another courtsey of Neil himself
Rob
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Unfortunately Bill I live in Sussex and the Government will not allow Sussex to have Freeview in case France get free UK TV. We don't even have Channel 5 yet for the same reason. :o :o :o :o :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\
And until they bring down satellite prices I will stick with 4 terrestrial channels. Hopefully they will sort it out by the time we go digital otherwise I will ditch the TV altogether!!!!
Kerry,
They have channel five in Dover and HAstings so why dont you get it. I would check if I was you as it arrived to my knowledge 3 years ago. Oh freeview available in Sussex as well as I just bought it for my ex and kids
Rob
Rob
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Not in my part of Sussex its not - I guess it will come eventually. I live just between the Heathfield mast and the sea a small area not covered by Channel 5 - I am sure that is no great loss or Freeview for the present.
Kerry ::) ::) ::)
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By the way Rob you don't know a friend of mine Roland do you. He didn't like TT either but for two different reasons, mainly because he thought he was an eminent Archealogist and was never invited on and secondly he didn't like the fact that such a lofty subject was brought to the attention of the great unwashed. He studied at Oxford!!!!!
Bless him. ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
I kind of know what you mean about the present format needing to be dropped though. It is beginning to feel like it has been done to death!!!!!!
Kerry
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kerryb wrote:He didn't like TT either but for two different reasons, mainly because he thought he was an eminent Archealogist and was never invited on and secondly he didn't like the fact that such a lofty subject was brought to the attention of the great unwashed.
We're only humble amateur archaeologists here but we've been involved in a couple of TT shows- what I found a bit irritating was the way in which they took knowledge which keen amateurs had spent years working out, and presented it on the show as if they had worked it all out in 3 days, without giving much credit to the real experts.
Having said that, it does bring history to a vast audience and the artificial urgency makes for good TV -and history does belong to all of us.
One thing I 've noticed since getting involved in it all is how local history (and archaeology) can bring out the worst in some folks (which can actually be quite amusing :)) I once found a drawing in an old book of a local historical figure and put it on a display we were doing- the "local authority" came along and gave me a right earful >:( >:(because she hadn't found it herself and no one else was allowed to step on her patch! :)
Fred
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My friend, actually he was a work colleague, was very much "local authority" at work about history and archealogy. When I started doing my family history and found out some stuff about the village where he lives and told him, he got really flustered because it was something he didn't know and hadn't found.
who did I think I was telling him!!!!! ::) ::) ::) ::)
kerry
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A couple of variations on the theme- the local "authority" who asks to borrow an object to have a look at it, and then can't bear to return it because they think they should be the sole keepers of the said object. (" Luckily, I saved this XXXX from the hands of a local farmer..." ooh that winds me up >:()
Another is the author who has spent years researching a booklet on his subject, then can't bear to publish in case some evil know-all is out there ready to pull it to pieces and make him look a chump :D
The joys of local history!
Fred
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A couple of variations on the theme- the local "authority" who asks to borrow an object to have a look at it, and then can't bear to return it because they think they should be the sole keepers of the said object. (" Luckily, I saved this XXXX from the hands of a local farmer..." ooh that winds me up >:()
Another is the author who has spent years researching a booklet on his subject, then can't bear to publish in case some evil know-all is out there ready to pull it to pieces and make him look a chump :D
The joys of local history!
Fred
But that is what writing is all about in any research field. I myself wrote a piece many years ago for a course I was doing and happened deliberately to pull the tutors own work to pieces. He marked me down at 60% ( which was actually the highest mark he gave). When I asked why he said because you have made blunders in your work such as a b and c. We promptly spent three hours debating these three points and two others I hadn't included due to maximum word counts being over and he admitted by the end as did I on one point that he hadn't thought of that as it was his own work and ideas and I coming along 30 years after he published had gotten his back up especially as I had brought a fresh look to something he couldnt figure out.
As for TT they actually spend more than three days on a site. They spend weeks researching the site before attending it. So when they get there they have an idea of what the outcome will be. As for them listening to the locals you gotta be kidding. When they dug Beauport park they did some areial work. Whilst in the air they spotted across the road a field with some very nice rectalinear parch marks. They wouldnt listen to us that these were drainage pipes laid only 1 year before and spent some 5 hours geophysing the site for them to say hey they are pipes
Rob
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Here in Australia we must be very behind with the show as Carenza is in it and poor Phil is still digging. Must watch credits to see if it has a year. Makes you wonder what is still buried beneath the soil all over UK.
Jean
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Jean
Not a lot I shouldn't think, TT must have dug everywhere by now surely!!!
Kerry
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They even dug up my sister's garden- and they left a hole for the lawnmower to fall in!
Fred
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Here in Australia we must be very behind with the show as Carenza is in it and poor Phil is still digging. Must watch credits to see if it has a year. Makes you wonder what is still buried beneath the soil all over UK. Jean
Lots of single shoes Jean ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D - see the link
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,178382.0.html
8) 8) 8)
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I don't give a cat's backside who does what,where or when.What I want is to see,hear and read of the result's.PREFERABLY with lot's of photo's.
If I could actually handle object's or walk on the site's I'd be over the moon.
Well.one day-----.
Goggy. ;) ;D
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http://www.building-history.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Mick/mickinterview.htm
I love Time Team
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Interesting link CU
I'm confused though, how can Mick be a Professor in Landscape Archaelogy and yet, according to Genresearch not hold any Archaelogy degree??
I've alway like Mick, he has a good habit of being able to bring Tony back down to earth and I love some of his jumpers.
Kerry
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I know there are many of us here in NZ who would love to see the WDYTUA series - even in this neck of the woods we do know who all the celebrities are ::) ::)
I wrote to our TV channels when the first series showed in the UK - asking if they could purchase it. Perhaps we might see it in 5 years or so - one never knows and lives in hope.
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Jean wrote: Makes you wonder what is still buried beneath the soil all over UK.
we did some fieldwalking at ploughing time with some really keen flint experts and they explained what to look for in the ploughsoil- once you have it pointed out, you start seeing worked flints everywhere. You realise there is a whole hidden dimension you weren't even aware of lying at your feet. These tools are still sharp as razors after 6 or 8000 years- one lives in the tractor for cutting bale strings :o :)
I find the whole thing so exciting- "like being an explorer in your own back yard" someone said.
Fred
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Hi All,
Anne, many thanks for the link, had a good laugh, seen a few single shoes in oz too and a few unmentionables :o
Fred, l hope your sister and lawnmower are ok. :)
Emmeline, l think the powers that be think because we live at the bottom of the world don't want to know, that said a very large proportion of us are from the UK, Here in oz the ABC has loads of UK programs just not the ones we want :(
Jean
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I'm confused though, how can Mick be a Professor in Landscape Archaelogy and yet, according to Genresearch not hold any Archaelogy degree??
Re Mick Aston
When Mick was working on his PhD, he and his girlfriend arranged to go and see her parents, with Mick planning to show them all the notes for his thesis, to impress them with his seriousness. But, on the way, he and his girlfriend stopped at a T Rex concert, someone broke into Mick's van and all the notes were stolen. This is why Mick is now one of the few professors in Britain not to have a PhD!
from http://www.channel4.com/history/timeteam/biog_mick.html
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Thanks Falkryn
Mind you he must have got a degree to have been able to go to Phd surely??
Kerry
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I live just down the road from Shapwick (see CU's link) and while he was working there, Mick used to come into the local primary school which my 2 children attended. He took them field walking, and came into the school regularly, answering their questions and showing them 'finds'.
My son was thrilled to be doing 'real archaeology' at the age of 8, and was inspired by Mick. He starts an Archaeology degree course this month!
Helen
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Wonderful Helen, I hope he enjoys it. Good luck to him ;D
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Thanks Falkryn
Mind you he must have got a degree to have been able to go to Phd surely??
Kerry
I believe that his original degree may have been in Geography as it was this he was originally studying along with archaeology before he became sidetracked fulltime onto archaeology. The book he has written concerning "Landscape Archaeology" is considered by many to be the definitive text on the subject.
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We've touched a little bit of Landscape Archaelogy through my work and it is a very interesting subject. I might have a butchers at his book.
Kerry :)
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Hi tarnee - I should have thought of asking my English cousins to copy the programmes for me......
My 2 cousins who live on the Gold Coast - one cannot abide Coronation Street but the other has someone who faithfully tapes it for her ::) ::) year after year after........
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Hi Emmeline,
Funny l live on the Gold Coast also, Gosh Coronation Street l haven't seen that since 1968 when l left Uk for South Africa there they had no TV, came to oz in 1974. My neighbour has Austar which they watch Coronation Street.
Jean
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Hi tarnee - The cousin I am speaking of who loves C.St. left for a visit to the Old Country yesterday. No doubt she will be getting her fill of it for the next month ::)
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Hi Emmeline,
My ex's leaves tomorrow, taking with him all the stuff l have found on his family to show his mother and hopes she can shed some more light. His side l do for the sake of my son's but he's not that into it. His 2nd wife they come from the (Fist Fleet) as they like to remind me.
Would mind a quick visit myself, but really no family left.
Jean
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The BBC has a resposibility to its licence fee payers I suppose. I remember a BBC weather forecaster once saying that the Met Office had complaints from viewers in northern France and Belgium who wanted to know why they did not include a weather forecast for their regions. Pushing their luck?
Newspapers in those regions include TV listing of British channels.
I'm not sure whether all programs will be available on Broadband from the BBC one day. If British people have to pay the licence fee how to they charge non-British people to see their output? It's all about money and coyright.
downside
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Time Team......a wonderful programme.However,Health and Safety appears to have got to them.They seem to be wearing hard hats these days when they stand in trenches no more than ankle deep.Still, one never knows what may fall out of the sky!.
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Hi Llwyd
I'd disagree with you about the trenches being only ankle deep.
Phil Harding was standing in a massive hole in the Buckingham Palace Gardens excavation looking for a canal. It depends how deep the archeology is really.
downside
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Interesting link CU
I'm confused though, how can Mick be a Professor in Landscape Archaelogy and yet, according to Genresearch not hold any Archaelogy degree??
I've alway like Mick, he has a good habit of being able to bring Tony back down to earth and I love some of his jumpers.
Kerry
Kerry,
A professor is a title bestowed on someone by the chancellor of a university. It doesnt mean they hold any qualifications unfortunately. Mick was I believe honoured with a honouary degree many years ago for his work in the field of Landscape archaeology which he was somewhat of a pioneer at the time
Rob
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ohh I find out he has a Ba in Geography nothing more :) and he is now a retired professor
Rob
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Time Team......a wonderful programme.However,Health and Safety appears to have got to them.They seem to be wearing hard hats these days when they stand in trenches no more than ankle deep.Still, one never knows what may fall out of the sky!.
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There doesnt have to be a trench to have to wear a hard hat. Anywhere that mechanical excavators are requires both a hard hat and a high vis jacket. In a trench of 1m depth a hard hat must be worn however this is flaunted many times especially when we have to excavate something fragile.
What surprises me though is the amount of TT staff who do not wear toe protectors which are required all the time
H&S in my opinion cannot be stringent enough. For example one archaeologist working on a site in London back in 2002 had a wall fall on them in a trench because a site director for the building company decided that the trench was empty and had his jcb driver push it in. The guy walked away with concussion and cuts thankfully and his Hard hat protected his head
Rob
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Yay Genresearch! As a professional H&S man, how nice it is to hear some positive views on what I do, rather than complaints about the "Nanny State" - and then watch those ambulance chaser claims companies cash in.
What a nice way for my weekend to start. ;D
meles
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Meles,
Unlike many I take my hat off to you, I have the highest regard for those that work in H&S and I agree, with what Genresearch has said, H&S can not be stressed enough. For the last four year's I have had the responsability of being in charge of the H&S for an annual day event which attracts upwards of 5,000 people of all ages. The planning, layout and risk assessment of the event was generally left up to myself and if something had happened on the day it would have fallen on my shoulder's to sort out or to be held accountable. Since taking on this role (with no training and being thrown in the deep end) my eyes have been opened, so to speak, at the accidents waiting to happen. I can understand, for instance, of the need to have crash mats in the front of bouncy castles and of the need of safety glasses in paint ball marquee's and also of cables being "trenched in" but even I could not get my head around the some of the new licensing law's that came in, in October last year.
old rowley
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Oh mea culpa!.I seem to have been soundly reprimanded by the H and S brigade. I must go and wear sack cloth and ashes.But first,may I please have some guidance?.After all, I wouldn't wish to contravene any regulations.
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Llwyd,
No you have just been shown that your comments were stupid as is the flame above. We all may find some of the H&S regulations a tad silly but when they save your life or a limb you will thank them. Now feel free to walk on any of my sites without the correct H&S gear on and you will fly off the site again with a size 11 toe tector boot up ya ...... well anyway
Rob
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It may be of interest to some to know that while Mick from 'Time Team' started his PhD in Archaeology he never finished it - I understand all his work was stolen from his car outside a T-Rex concert.
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Simma,
Scroll back it as been mentioned elsewhere on this thread :)
Rob
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Llwyd,
No you have just been shown that your comments were stupid as is the flame above. We all may find some of the H&S regulations a tad silly but when they save your life or a limb you will thank them. Now feel free to walk on any of my sites without the correct H&S gear on and you will fly off the site again with a size 11 toe tector boot up ya ...... well anyway
Rob
Oh dear.......
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