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Would be very grateful of a lookup please
I am trying to find Norah Jane Honeybun in the 1861 census, I would have expected her to be with her family in Portisham:
From the Dorset OPC transcription:
46;Shilvinghampton
William Honeyburn Head 34
Sarah Honeyburn wife 34 b.Loders
Frances Ann dau 7
Robert Honeybun son 6
George son 4
Harriett dau 2
Hannah dau 9mths
Norah Jane would have been 10/11 years old she was born in 1850 in Burstock. I am hoping she may have been missed in the transcribing? She was definetley still living.
Surname variations: Honeybun; Honeyben; Honyben, Honeyburn.
And also trying to find this family in Dorset in 1871, they lost a son on Powerstock in 1871 but I can't locate them.
Many thanks in advance
Kiwigal
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1871-Powerstock
RG10/2026-108-18
Honeybun
William B 44 head b Bwadomon Dairyman
Sarah 45 wife b Loders
Frances A 17 d Stoke Abbot
Robert 16 son b Whitchurch
Frederic 9 son b Portisham
Alice 6 dau b E Stoke
No sign anywhere of Norah Jane
Joe
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1871-Stoke Abbot
RG10/2025-61-20
Brimley Farm
Mary Bowditch 62 head widow b Thorniscombe Miller and Farmer of 25 acres
Amelia " 28 Un dau b "
John " 26 son Un b "
Hannah Honeybun 10 niece b Corfe
John Halson 16 Servant b Broadwinson
Joe
Whats your last sighting of Norah
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Thanks Joe,
Norah first appears in census 1851 aged 1 year with her parents in Burstock. Her birth wasn't registered until 1852, when she was baptised in Burstock the same year;and then she disappears until she married in 1875, appearing as the wife of Thomas Bartlett in census 1881 in Stoke Abbott.
Had hoped that the Hannah in census 1871 might have been her sister, right age wrong birth place, but I can't place Mary as an Aunt in the family, either paternally or maternally.(she was also in Stoke Abbott in 1861).
I got all excited there for a moment though :P, the Bowditch name keeps popping up in this Honeybun family, but I can't connect it to them at this stage
Great to find her family in 1871 though, fills in a couple of gaps.
Again many thanks for your time
Lynne
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Hi Kiwigal,
Normally babies are born and christened in the same place but it doesn't always happen.
We had a Honeybun born in Lytchett Matravers but was christened in the Bridport area where they came from.
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Hi Kiwigal
It could be that Hannah/Norah are the same person. :-\
There is obviously a Bowditch connection as William and Sarahs daughter Harriet as Bowdetch as a middle name.
Jane(formerly Joe ;D)
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Hi again
Ive just had another look at this and out of interest do you have a birth reg for Norah as I cant see one for her.
Jane
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??? I cant find her in 1851 Cencus either..do you have her in that cencus ?
1851-Cencus-Burstock
HO107/1860/229/5
HONEYBEN
William 24 head b Broadwinsor Dairyman
Sarah 25 wife b Burstock
Mary Jane 1m dau b "
Zenus Rawlings 10 Dairy Servant b Burstock
Jane
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Here is all the info i have listed for her, if you give me a few days i can see what else i have on paper
NORA JANE HONEYBUN
BORN 14 JUN 1852 BURSTOCK DORSET
DIED 20 JAN 1903
FATHER WILLIAM HONEYBUN
MOTHER SARAH HYDE BOWDITCH
Marriages Mar 1875 Listed as HONEYBEN Norah Jane Beaminster 5a 599
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Hi all,
1891 shows Norah as Jane, and so does 1871:
1871
RG10/2024 57 6
Bettiscombe, Dorset
Hanah Honeyben, head, wid, 68, Farmer 60 Acres, b. Stoke Abbot Dorset
Robert, son, unm, 28, b. Burstock
Jane, granddau, 18, b. do.
+ a labourer and a servant
:)
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already with grandma in 1861 age 8:
1861
RG9/1369 110 9
Whitchurch Canonicorum
Revelsey Farm
Joseph Honeyben, head, 66, Farmer 100 acres empl 1 boy, b. dorset Broadwinsor
Hannah, wife, 59, b. Devon Shute
Henry, son, unm, 27, b. Broadwinsor
Mary, dau, unm, 24, b. do.
Robert, son, unm, 19, b. do.
Frederick, son, 17, Blacksmith, b. Mapperton
Jane, granddau, 8, scholar, b. Burstock
+ a servant boy
oops - just realising how old this thread is! I somehow hope it was already sorted Kiwigal ;D
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Tati....Any chance you can find my Luce Longbottom in 91!!!.. ;D ;D....
Well spotted.....
Jane
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You guys are just sooooooooo clever....... you have provided a whole new line to my Barrett line, finding me another gggg aunt and all.
Firstly Norah Janes birth is recorded as....
Birth Free BMD-Internet, [5a-386] June 1852 Qtr Beaminster Reg. Recorded as " Anorah Jane Honeybun" no wonder she took so long to find 8).
Thanks for finding Nora Jane in 61 and 71 census's.
her sister "Mary Jane" died in Mar 1852. Maybe this threw her mother into a bit of a spin and grandma stepped in to the rescue taking toddler jane to live with her?
census 1871
Mary Bowditch 62 head widow b Thorniscombe Miller and Farmer of 25 acres
Amelia " 28 Un dau b "
John " 26 son Un b "
Hannah Honeybun 10 niece b Corfe
John Halson 16 Servant b Broadwinson
Now to the whole new line and hopefully the solving of the Bowditch link....
Had a dig to try and find out how Mary could be an aunt
Mary Bowditch is (so it appears at this stage, family search and Dorset opc records) actually is the great aunt of Hannah and her sister (Norah) Jane.
William Barrett = Hannah (of Shute, Devon)
(died bef 1841) (d 1848 St Abbott)
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Hannah Barrett Mary Barrett
(b 1802 Shute) (b 1810 Stoke Abbott)
= Joseph Honeybun = John Bowditch
=1825 Stoke Abbott = 1841 Beaminster
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William Barrett Honeybun John Bowditch
=Sarah Hyde Travers =Jane Purchase
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Norah Jane Robert Barrett Bowditch
Hannah
So a sister for Hannah Barrett it seems, I am pretty sure she had a brother Robert and also a sister Elizabeth also of Stoke Abbott fame. Robert married Dorothy Bussell and Elizabeth married Azariah Elliott.
Again many thanks for all the help. Just amazing what another set of eyes can do.
Lynne
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Hi, I'm a descendent of William Honeybun & Sarah Hyde Bowditch. You are looking for Mary Jane Honeybun born 02/03/1851. She would not appear on the 1861 census because she died 14/03/1852.
Is this of any help to you? How far have you got with your research and do you have any family photos 19th Century.
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Hi,
I'm a descended from William Barrett Honeybun who married Sarah Hyde Bowditch.
You show Wm Honeybun married to Sarah Hyde Travers?
Please help explain.
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Hi Miggins,
I see you are at the stage I was until last year in looking for the elusive Sarah Hyde Bowditch.
How are you connected to William and Sarah?
Having seen her marriage entry to William on the British Vital records I had spent nearly 15 years trying to find her, until FreeBDM indexes recorded the marriage for William and Sarah
free BDM index -William Honyben = Sarah Travers
Jun qtr 1850 Bridport 8-77.
This threw a different spin on things. Who was Sarah Travers?
Then, trawling thru the Loders baptism on opc dorset site I came across ...
1826; illegible Sarah Hide daughter of; Richard & Elizabeth; TRAVERS; Labourer; Loders;
Born right year, right place .... a lot of consultation with two very experienced Honeybun/ Travers researchers, and we all agreed that Sarah was actually Sarah Hyde Travers NOT Bowditch.
(We have not been able to find a Sarah Bowditch that even comes close to replacing her).
I think, and I am only surmising here, that the entry in the vitals was mistranscribed from the Bishop's transcripts. And that possibly the Bowditch name could have come from William's Aunt Mary Bowditch who was possibly a witness at their marriage. Aunt Mary seemed to play an important role in William and Sarah's lives, taking in their daughter Hannah.
This is probably the reason why their daughter Harriet got the Bowditch as a second name.
My delema at the moment is Trying to find Sarah in the 1841 census, only 11 she is not recorded with Richard and Elizabeth, but she could have been in service somewhere.... the hunt continues.
I wish I did have photo's, but sadly no. My grandfather emigrated to New Zealand in the early 1920's and obviously some other family member must have scored that treasure.
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Hi Kiwigal
Great to have a response so soon! I have also been researching for some years and only found this site by accident a couple of weeks ago. The Honeybuns had taken a back seat as I've been concentrating on the Wills family ofSomerset.
On receiving your info. about Sarah I agree that she must be Sarah Hyde TRAVERS as I have now checked this on Freebmd. I assume the aunt you mentioned is Mary Ann Saint Honeybun (married to a Bowditch) who was William's sister. Am I correct?
I gleaned from Rootschat 'TreeOfNames' information that has taken me back to 1718. You may already have this info. but it starts with John TRAVERS - born in Loders 17/12/1718 m. to Elizabeth DIMENT born Corscombe 26/11/1737. Their daughter Susannah TRAVERS married John Honeybun and were parents of Job (no info. about his wife). Job was father of Joseph Honeybun who married Hannah BARRETT and they were the parents of William Barrett Honeybun etc.
Harriet Bowditch Honeybun was my maternal Great Grandmother and she married Charles CLEAL 25th December 1875. The Cleal family was originally Dorset based. I have a fairly detailed written family tree on them which starts with William Barrett Honeybun. If you would like any of this info. let me know.
Thanks again and would appreciate receiving any other pieces to the jigsaw!
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Hi Kiwigal
Happy New Year. Looking at the 1861 Census for Portisham, Dorset on the a web site called Open Parish Clerk for Dorset via Google and found the Honeybuns listed as William Honeyburn aged 34, a Farm Bailiff at Combe, nr. Broadwindsor with wife Sarah (34) together with children Frances Ann, (7), Robert (6), George (4), Harriet B (2) my gt.gt.G/mother and Hannah (9mths.). It's good to be aware of the different spellings.
There would appear to quite a few Honeyburns in this area so they are probably related.
Bye, miggens
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I am currently doing my family tree for Newfoundland, Canada. I have recently found that I have a GGG Grandfather who was Robert Honeybun from England. He married and had a daughter Hannah in Gooseberry Island, Bonavista Bay, Newfoundland. I also have placed a Simeon Honeyburn in Placentia Bay in 1764. Does the Robert of this family who is 6 moved to Newfoundland?
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If you could be a bit more specific about this Robert, i.e. date of birth, father, etc. it is very likely that between the family researchers we can give you some more information.
Very interested to see mention of a Simeon. Not a Christian name I can recall in the Loders/Powerstock family.
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Robert Honeyburn or Honeybun was born abt 1818 in England. He came to NFLD to fish in Bonavista Bay. His wife was Mary Anne. They had a daughter Hannah. I can't find any marriage certificate for Robert and Mary Anne so it is likely that she may also be from England. She was born about 1831. Hannah was born about 1851.
Thanks for any help that you can give me.
Debbie
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Hi Debbie
I've done a quick search on the OPC for Dorset, Abbotsbury and have found under baptisms 1813-1840 a Thomas and Hannah Honeyburne who had Levi (bap. 27 Oct 1818), Mary Hardy(bap. 5 June 1815) and Robert (bap. 4 Apr. 1817). Could this be the Robert you are looking for? I've not been able to find the marriage of a Robert to a Mary Anne around 1849/51'ish but as the women usually married in the parish where they were born it will be difficult to find. Do you know where Mary Anne was born?
The Robert you found, aged 6, is probably the brother of my Gt. Grandmother, Harriet Bowditch Honeybun. Unfortunately, I do not know what became of him although I have found the marriage of a Robert to a Sarah Louisa Legg reg. in Bridport 1880 (5a 655).
Anyway, hope this tiny bit of info. is of help to you.
Regards
Liz
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I believe this would be him. He married a Mary Anne Killigrew. I towuld make sense as in Newfoundland they name thier daughters after a grandmother or another female relation such as an Aunt. I will let you know when I verify this.
Thanks
Debbie
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Hi Miggins;
Could anyone could verify if there was a Robert Honeybun or Huneyburn born about 1823 in England, I believe to be in the Dorset area. I had originally thought he was born about 1818 but two other pieces of information now places him as to have been born 1823. I am trying to work this out. I have come to find some names as Theresa, Susan and Sarah Honeyburn in Newfoundland in the early 1800's but I haven't made any connection to being related to my GGG grandfather.
Thanks
Debbie
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My great grandmother was Susan Honeyburn married to James Pritchett in Gambo, Bonavista Bay, NL
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What do you know about Job Honeyburn(son of John and Susanna) and named with his five siblings in Susanna's will of 1823? One Job Honeyburn in the period 1815 to 1840 approx. was working in the Red Cliff area of Newfoundland and trying to straighten out ownership of property in Loders. During the period 1805-1825 six Honeyburn children were born in England or Newfoundland(No births or baptisms found) but parish records exist of their marriages all taking place at or near Red Cliff,Newfoundland. These six Honeyburns were : 1)Joseph married Ann ? 2)Maria married James Long 3) Susanna married James Pritchett(my ggp) 4) Sarah married James Holloway 5) John married Elizabeth Humby 6) Mary married William Holloway.
Is this your Joseph? Regards
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This is a different Honeybun/bourne line, but I have some information on them, they can be traced back to the area with roots going back to the 1500's.
Have you been in touch with Martin Farr? He can email you all the information, presented beautifully.
Susannah's will is available via the internet, mentioning her six children (she was widowed when the will was written). I'm in the middle of doing some building work at the moment, so nothing is where it should be, and I can't lay my hands on it at the moment. The spelling of the surname was more like Honeybourne, so the easiest way to find it is to seach "Loders wills" on the National Archive website, then if you trawl through you'll find it eventually. It wasn't very expensive to buy online, then it will be sent to you electronically almost immediately. Jill
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I have often seen reference to the property in Loders, and wondered whether the property was named or detailed? I go to West Dorset every 6 months or so, and would be happy to try and track the property down if it was a house?
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Hi Kiwigal
Hope all is well with. I will see what I can fond out about Norah.
Regards
Miggins!
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I have just come across the Honeyburn name while researching my daughter-in-laws family from Bonavista Bay, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada that I do not mentioned here on this site. I see references to searches for Robert Honeyburn on this site. I located the baptisms for 4 children of a Robert and Sarah Honeyburn in Heart's Delight, Trinity Bay, Newfoundland and Labrador.
Mark Honeyburn baptized July 22, 1823 Age: 4 birth circa: 1819
George Honeyburn baptized July 22, 1823 Age: 4 birth circa: 1819
Susan Honeyburn baptized July 23, 1823 Age: 9 birth circa: 1814
Mary Honeyburn baptized July 23, 1823 Age: 11 birth circa: 1812
Hope this is helpful to a researcher. Cheers