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Title: HOLES Family - 1841 Census Lookup Pls
Post by: astral14 on Friday 01 September 06 13:46 BST (UK)
I have a Thomas ? Holes (I think this is the 1st name) m to Mary.
In the 1851 census Mary is there with her children,
George b c 1843 Bedfordshire
William b 1846 Luton Bedfordshire

Thomas may have been b in Toddington, Bedfordshire

Help, please.
Title: Re: Holes family - 1841 census lookup pls
Post by: Necromancer on Friday 01 September 06 13:55 BST (UK)
struggling .... can you give the 1851 full reference please ?

sure its not HOLMES ?
Title: Re: Holes family - 1841 census lookup pls
Post by: astral14 on Friday 01 September 06 14:06 BST (UK)
No - definitely Holes.
This is what I have (stupidly have written a very cryptic message).
1851:
re Mary the mother -
Listed as 24 (673) in 1851 census
Title: Re: Holes family - 1841 census lookup pls
Post by: Necromancer on Friday 01 September 06 14:12 BST (UK)
LOL - very cryptic .... well 673 doesnt seem to be a PIECE num, so maybe 24 is her age - not showing.. up tho ... yet - BUT SEE BELOW

The George and William I can find arent those DoBs ...

hmmm
Title: Re: Holes family - 1841 census lookup pls
Post by: Necromancer on Friday 01 September 06 14:18 BST (UK)
The only Mary Holes explicitly shown with that spelling ..

HO107/1757 Folio 757 Page 34 - Luton, Beds

'New Town'

 
George Holes 24  Head Farm Lab Herts
Mary Ann Holes 25  Wife Herts
Emily Holes 2  Luton

Alice Powell 30  Lodger
Emily Powell 2  do
Mary Powell 5  do
Thomas Powell 32 do 
Title: Re: Holes family - 1841 census lookup pls
Post by: Necromancer on Friday 01 September 06 14:29 BST (UK)
heres the other reference I made -

HO107/1757 Folio 673 Page 38 - Luton


This is complicated and poorly written !
 

Ann Hawkins 28  Head (not ~~~ home) Lace Maker Herts
Thomas Hawkins 13 
Sarah Hawkins 11 
Emma Hawkins 15 
Frederick Hawkins 9 
John Hawkins 7 

George Holes 5  'son of am'  - born Herts, Hitchin Union [workhouse]
Mary Halles (sic) 24  'sister of ...' born Herts ~~~~
William Holes son born Beds, Luton Union [workhouse]
Title: Re: Holes family - 1841 census lookup pls
Post by: Necromancer on Friday 01 September 06 14:32 BST (UK)
all of which doesnt reveal owt in 1841 !
Title: Re: Holes family - 1841 census lookup pls
Post by: astral14 on Friday 01 September 06 15:25 BST (UK)
It's this one - my cousin said something about them being in a workhouse.... Can you see that one any better?

George Holes 5  'son of am'  - born Herts, Hitchin Union [workhouse]
Mary Halles (sic) 24  'sister of ...' born Herts ~~~~
William Holes son born Beds, Luton Union [workhouse]
Title: Re: Holes family - 1841 census lookup pls
Post by: Necromancer on Friday 01 September 06 15:27 BST (UK)
 ::)
Title: Re: HOLES Family - 1841 Census Lookup Pls
Post by: astral14 on Friday 01 September 06 16:35 BST (UK)
Thank you.  :)
It looks as if Mary might have been the sister then and not the mother.....
Title: Re: HOLES Family - 1841 Census Lookup Pls
Post by: skypescraper on Saturday 11 July 09 18:37 BST (UK)
Mary was William's mother; Ann was George's mother.  Both women were (I believe) daughters of William Holes, and came from Offley; and neither Ann nor Mary appear to have been married when they gave birth (hence the Hitchin/Luton Union workhouse references).
Title: Re: HOLES Family - 1841 Census Lookup Pls
Post by: astral14 on Saturday 11 July 09 19:04 BST (UK)
Thanks - are you related?
Title: Re: HOLES Family - 1841 Census Lookup Pls
Post by: skypescraper on Saturday 11 July 09 19:21 BST (UK)
(Through Ann)
Title: Re: HOLES Family - 1841 Census Lookup Pls
Post by: astral14 on Saturday 11 July 09 19:23 BST (UK)
We would be distantly related then. William Holes was my ggggsomething gfather. Do you have any more info?
Shall I PM you with an email address?