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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Topic started by: lisa23 on Tuesday 29 August 06 02:18 BST (UK)
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Can you get marriages before 1837 in England. I am looking for John Rudd and Mary Sullivan. I think they married mid 1830's. I have checked the IGI but no luck.
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Many parishes are not included on the IGI. When and where were their first children born/christened? If you have them in later censuses, where were they born?
If you check http://www.genuki.org.uk/ you can often find out where parish records are held. If not, ask here about where records are held for a given parish (or check to see if there's a local/county family history society or if the county record office has info)
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Thanks for this information. Unfortunately, I am not 100% on where they were married. All I know that James Rudd born 1837 in England. According to his death certificate, it said he was from Hadley/Hadleigh but which county I don't know. His marriage certificate said his parents names. I have had the census checked and the best I came up with was John & Mary Rudd born Nottingham and their children born Dedham/Lexden, Essex. i.e. James 1837, Charles 1840, Laura 1843 & Anna 1846. I thought this would be the correct family as he named his children the same as his siblings but it could be a coincidence. I seem to be coming to a brick wall all the time and don't know which way to go.
Lisa ::)
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You can get parish records prior to 1837 for baptisms, marriages and burials.
Don't know if it helps but Parloc (Parish locator) has two Hadleigh's and no Hadley. The Hadleigh's are in Essex and Suffolk.
It may not help if the person reporting the death was not accurate. I had one death certificate say county Durham but the marriage certificate said County Down - two totally different countries. They may have misheard the details or just given the town where they first knew they lived.
There is a Halam, Halloughton, Harworth, Hawksworth, Hawton, Hayton, Headon, Hickling. Hockerton, Holme, Hoveringham, Hucknall in Nottingham.
You could try http://www.nottsfhs.org.uk/ and see if they could do a search of the baptisms for you or there maybe someone on the Nottingham board who could do the lookup - when you post give them all the information you have i.e marriage, census's and death info as then they can extend what you know.
You probably already know this but the 1841 census entry for them in Essex says that John, Matilda (Mary?) and James were not of that county, Charles however was.
The 1851 says Nottingham B.L (?) for John and Mary - I don't know what the B. L. stands for or even if that is the correct reading of the letters but maybe someone else can help.
I'd try Nottingham for the marriage and for a baptism for James.
Jenny