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I'm wondering if anybody has any knowledge of the PIKE families that lived in Poole in the 17th and 18th centuries.
For instance, a Thomas PIKE of Poole left a will dated 1703 (but apparently probated in 1708) in which he names two sons (Thomas and John), his wife Susannah, and three siblings: Timothy BIRD, Edward BIRD, and Margaret CARDS. I have yet to determine the details of how it is that Thomas PIKE has two brothers with surname BIRD. As for his sister Margaret, I have noted that there is a will dated 1719 for a Margarett CARD, widow of Portsmouth, Hampshire, and that the IGI lists a marriage at St Thomas, Portsmouth, Hants on 25 Nov 1860 between Joseph CARD and Margaret PYKE.
- David.
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Hi
I dont have any knowledge of this thomas but I have a huge record of the Pike family from Pimperne In Dorset from 1715 up to the present day.
I would be interested in trying to link any families of Dorset Pikes.
Jan
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Hi Jan.
I don't yet have much information about the Pikes that resided at Poole, but have begun to gather together what I know and put it online <a href="http://www.math.mun.ca/~dapike/family_history/pike/poole.shtml">here</a>. Some of these families were very wealthy and had ties to the Newfoundland fishery. They also had land holdings in various places (Lytchett Minster, Canford Magna, Hampreston, etc)... although these Pikes lived at Poole, it is not clear whether Poole is where they actually originated.
Part of what I'm trying to do is bridge the gap between Pikes in Newfoundland and those in Poole, but the challenge is that the records seem to be split between both sides of the Atlantic and I can't easily access records from Poole. On a positive note, I am planning a trip to England in 2007 and expect to visit Poole (even though I don't quite know just what I ought to do once I get there).
If you can spot any connection between your Pimperne Pikes and the info that I have about those in Poole, do let me know. Meanwhile, I wonder if you know of any living male Pikes from Pimperne?... by comparing genetic signatures, we should at least be able to tell if your Pikes and mine are somehow related.
- David.
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Hi
Yes I do but dont know how kindly he would take to it,.
Our Pikes were lowly souls tho... ag labs Inn keepers carpenters and wheelwrights so i doubt there is a link.
maybe an off shoot that didnt make the grade.
Sorry dapike :(
Jan
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I have got a lot of Pikes in Hampreston though.
If you are interested I can let you have the tree to look at but not to publish.
Just to go through if you don't mind.
If you wish to look you will need to let me have your email addy.
Jan
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Hi Jan. Sure, I'd be happy to take a peek at your tree. My email address is dapike@math.mun.ca
I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss the possibility of a connection. In Newfoundland there are lots of Pikes, most of whom are supposed to be from Poole, and many of whom (mine included) were fishermen and far from wealthy.
About the DNA test, I should have also noted that the DNA is collected via a painless cheek/mouth swab. Some people seem to think that it involves needles, which it doesn't. If you want more info, feel free to email me privately (I've been coordinating the Pike project since it began 2 years ago).
- David.
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I will get back to you as soon as poss
Jan
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Hi Jan (and anybody else with a Pike family interest).
I was going through my email archives the other day and came across another research with a connection to the Pikes of Pimperne. Ironically, she was of the opinion that there was some connection between the Pimperne Pikes and those in Poole that ended up here in Newfoundland.
Meanwhile, I'm beginning to make plans for my visit to Dorset in July. I've never been to Dorset before, so I'm looking for suggestions and recommendations... for instance, are there any things that would be a "must see" for somebody interested in Pike family history?
Thanks,
- David.
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Hi David
I live in Poole, but alas have no ancestors from this area.
For your visit, you should visit the Local History Centre down on Poole Quay.
Details here:
http://www.boroughofpoole.com/servicetitles.asp?id=A17912F0943C4B&title=Local+History+Centre+And+Archives
The above link also includes a link to the Dorset County Record Office which is in nearby Dorchester.
Other places to visit would include museums:
http://www.dorsetforyou.com/index.jsp?articleid=323007
Just some thoughts.
Dave
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Hi Dave
While you are in Dorset try to visit the area around Blandford Forum and Shapwick.
The churches a re beautiful.
Jan
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David-
I assume you are going to spend a day or two in London...
The Society of Genealogists http://www.sog.org.uk/index.shtml
seems like a must do?
Stu Pike
Hi Jan (and anybody else with a Pike family interest).
Meanwhile, I'm beginning to make plans for my visit to Dorset in July. I've never been to Dorset before, so I'm looking for suggestions and recommendations... for instance, are there any things that would be a "must see" for somebody interested in Pike family history?
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This is an update to what I previously knew about the family of Thomas PIKE, mariner of Poole, whose will is dated 1703.
According to a short article in the 26 Dec 1931 issue of "Notes and Queries", Thomas and his wife Susannah were parents of William PIKE who lived at Portsmouth, Hampshire. William left a will dated 1774 and proved in 1777. William's two daughters married into the BONHAM and CARTER families, subsequent generations of which adopted the "BONHAM CARTER" name. In his will, William names his children and grandchildren, but also identifies his niece Susannah LEE (daughter of his late brother John PIKE) and his nephew Timothy PIKE (gentleman, and son of his late brother John PIKE) as well as his late brother Thomas PIKE. There is also a reference to William's sister Mary LAMBERT, a daughter of whom is apparently married to a HART.
While William resided in Portsmouth and baptised his daughters there at the High Street Presbyterian Chapel, I don't yet know where any of William's siblings lived.
- David.
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I was interested to find your links on the Pikes of Poole. I believe our line goes as follows:
Thomas Pike - (1680-?)
Thomas Pike (i) - (1700-1741) Poole Dorset = Elizabeth ?
John Pike (ii) (1728-1773) Poole, Dorset = Olive (John had a brother, Thomas)
John Pike (iii) (1754-1817), Poole, Dorset = Ann
Ann Pike (1787-?) Poole Dorset, = Robert Ayles (1786-?) (Ann has 2 sisters, Elizabeth & Susannah)
I'm descended from Robert and Ann, 6 generations later and live in England.
I have not seen any original documentation myself, but have relied on this website and GenesReunited.co.uk amongst others. The wording is confusing regarding some of the wills, but is taken directly from other sites.
Notes:
(i) On 29 March 1741, Thomas Pike of Poole, left a will in which the following are noted: son John Pike, who inherits land in Hampreston and Longham. Wife Elizabeth Pike, who inherits the dwelling house "in which I now live" in Poole "near the church". Grandson Thomas Pike (whose father Thomas Pike is deceased), who is not yet 14 years old. Daughter Elizabeth Pike, who inherits lands by the name of "Regent" in the parish of Lytchett Minster, which Thomas (the one writing the will) purchased from William Cheeseman, whose son Cornelius Cheeseman now occupies the land. Daughters Margaret Pike and Ann Pike, who inherit land in Lytchett Minster, Lytchett Matravers, and Sturminster Marshall. Daughter-in-law Elizabeth Pike, widow, who inherits land that she now occupies on West Street in Poole. Daughters Mary Durell (widow) and Susannah (wife of Young Green) are also named. Daughters Elizabeth Pike, Margaret Pike, and Ann Pike are unmarried, and not yet 21 years of age Thomas' will was proved at London in 1741.
[NB, Thomas' son Thomas must be older than appears on the tree. It has been assumed that he was born in about 1730, however, if his father died in 1741 and Thomas 2 has already had a son aged 14, the dates don't tally!]
(ii) On 22 December 1773, John Pike, merchant of Poole, left a will in which the following are noted: "natural son" John Pike, who inheritance includes land in Newfoundland, John Green, merchant of Poole, Edward Pike, mariner of Poole Thomas Hyde, merchant of Poole wife Olive Pike niece Mary (the wife of Thomas Casley) Thomas Calvert Strickland, nephew of wife Olive Pike, servant Ann Sangford, nephew Thomas Pike, sister Susanna Green, sister Ann Pitt, late sister Mary Durell. John wrote a codicil on 21 March 1774, in which he notes that his wife Olive is since deceased.
(iii) In his will written in London 1804, John Pike, sailmaker of Poole, left a will in which the following are noted: wife Ann Pike, daughters Susannah Tite Pike, Ann Pike and Elizabeth Osborne (wife of William Osborne of Poole, master mariner), who inherit real estate in/near Thames Street in Poole The will was proved at London in 1817, at which time it is noted that John's daughter Ann was then the wife of Robert Ayles.
[N.B. 2, the Ayles family also went to Newfoundland & married into the Packs of Carbonear].
I'd love to see some original documents, to confirm if the above is accurate.
- Deborah
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Hi Deborah.
It sounds like you're quoting what I typed up and put onto my website two years ago, after I paid a visit to the archives in Dorchester and took notes from several Pike wills. You'll find that I've since put some additional information online too, although there is still much that is yet to be determined.
I'll be in Dorset again in a few weeks and will hopefully learn a bit more about some of our Pike ancestors.
- David.
PS: my website is at www.math.mun.ca/~dapike/family_history
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Hi.
I have a Edward Pike married to Dinah Wilder on the 2nd May 1805, they married in London.
Im trying to find where Edward was born and noticed the West Counties seem to pop up.
This is a shot in the dark so to speak but you never know.
Angie.
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Hi Angie.
Do you know if Edward lived long enough to get enumerated in the 1841, 1851, etc censuses? I can try to look him up for you if you think I might find him. Locating him in 1851 would be wonderful, as his parish of birth should be included in that census.
- David.
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Hi David.
Sadly no Edward died in 1840, Edward is my GGG Grandad his daughter Sarah Pike married a Charles Hitchcock a Alfred Hitchcock connection.
Angie
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Okay then. The little we seem to have to go on then is that Edward and Dinah's marriage took place in the parish of St James Garlickhithe. The marriage record simply describes Edward as being "of this parish" and "bachelor". There is no mention of Edward's age or parents.
The death index at FreeBMD lists an Edward Pike whose death was registered in Q2 of 1840 in the Strand district.
- David.