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Can anyone help with the burial of Ann PONTING, wife of Theophilus PONTING, in about 1801? She was born about 1769, so would have been around 32 years old.
The burial is likely to be in Wellow, Norton St Philip or Kilmersdon. Theophilus remarried in January 1802 to his cousin Sophia PONTING.
Any help with this entry would be very gratefully received.
Kind regards and thanks
Philip Candy
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Any relation to John Ponting b: abt. 1795 married Ruth Shearn. Please help.
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Ann is his mother.
He was baptised at Holcombe Somerset on 17 December 1795, and married Ruth SHEARN on 15 April 1819 at Midsomer Norton in Somerset.
John and Ruth had nine children.
John's parents were Theophilus PONTING and Ann CANDY; they married on 19 May 1790 at Wanstrow, Somerset.
Following Ann's death in about 1801, Theophilus married his cousin Sophia PONTING on 15 January 1802 at Wellow, Somerset.
Theophilus died in 1823.
I hope this helps with your research. Please let me know if you manage to find the death/burial dates of Ann, Theophilus, John or Ruth.
Kind regards
Philip Candy
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You have no idea how happy I am to hear the news. Thank you so much !!!! John died 8 Apr. 1867 Chilcompton at age 72. Ruth died 10 Mar. 1875 Chilcompton at age 81. Do you know how many childern Theophilus and Ann or Sophia had ? I ran across a record of a will for Theophilus that I will sending for. Now I know where Tom Candy Ponting got his middle name from. By the way my connection is from my grandfathers side. Oren Polk. His mother was Nellie Ponting. Her father was William Ponting his parents were John and Ruth. Let me know if you have any more questions. I do have some photo's of Ponting's in the U.S. and photo's of people were not sure of.
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Hello Gretchen
Theophilus and Ann had four children:
Theophilus (1791-1875)
Ann (1793-??)
John (1795-1867)
Elijah (1797-1871) - death registered as Pointing
Theophilus and Sophia had three children:
William (1804-05)
Phebe (1806-07)
Elizabeth (1809-??)
I'm sorry I can't tell you much about the second family, but my enthusiasm ran out after researching the children of Ann Candy PONTING and didn't extend to Theophilus's children by his second wife!!
I presume you know that Tom Candy Ponting (named, no doubt, after his great-uncle Thomas (Tom) Candy (1785-1828), brother of his grandmother Ann) wrote an autobiography in 1952? In case not, here are relevant extracts from the first four pages:
Extract from: Ponting T C (1952). Life of Tom Candy Ponting: An autobiography. Introduction and notes by Herbert O Brayer. Evanston Illinois: The Branding Iron Press.
My name is Tom Candy Ponting. I was born at Hayden Farm, Parish of Kilsmeredo [Kilmersdon] near Bath, Somersetshire England, August 26 1824. My mother’s maiden name was Ruth Sherron [Shearn]. My father’s name was John, and my grandfather Ponting’s name was Theophilus. My grandmother Ponting’s maiden name was Candy. I was the fourth of nine children; eight of the nine lived to marry. I now [1907] have living two sisters and one brother; my brother John lives in Mount Vernon, Knox County, Ohio.
I was married in 1856 to Margaret, daughter of Michael and Margaret Kautz Snyder. Mrs Ponting has four brothers and one sister married and the heads of families in Moweaqua, and ten of her Snyder nephews and nieces have married and remained here, so that I am related by marriage to almost every family in the town. …
The Ponting family were breeders of cattle (that I have followed all my life) both in England and in this country. The Ponting family came into England with William the Conqueror; so we are descendants of Normandy. The Pontings settled within a few miles from where I was born, all the early ones and up to my grandfather’s death were buried in the Fauset [Foxcote] graveyard. I found that the oldest monument in the church was out up to a Ponting. It was put up two hundred and ninety-eight years before I went over there.
I came to the United States in 1847 with brother John. We came out with a lady and gentleman who were returning from England, their home being Wooster Ohio. I sailed from London in the ship London. In those days it took six weeks to make the trip. After I landed I spent two days in New York, then took the boat on the Hudson River to Albany, from there took the railroad to Buffalo, and the boat from Buffalo to Cleveland. At Cleveland we sent our baggage onto Wooster. There was no railroad in that part of the country and the baggage had to be sent in travelling wagons which were for the purpose of carrying goods backward and forward. After leaving Cleveland we footed it to Strongville, Ohio, about fifteen miles south of Cleveland. We stopped there several days with Mr Roberts, a friend of my father and mother. We next went to Medina. I went to a circus while in that town and strange to say, the ticket collector was a man I had known in England. … After we left there we came to Wooster where we found our baggage, also our friends who had gotten a little ahead of us. We spent several weeks around Wooster with some old friends that came from our part of the country…. After leaving Wooster we went to Fredericksburg, Knox County, Ohio to visit a friend of my father‘s, Mr George. He had a large mill and a distill house, he also had a good deal of land and was very anxious that my brother and I should say with him. My brother stayed with him and has always made his home in that part of the country.
After leaving Fredericktown I went to Etna which was sixteen miles east of Columbus on the Pike. While at this place I met a Mr Matthews, a large stock man. I was acquainted with his brother in England. He offered me a good home and urged me very much to stay with him, but I only stayed six weeks… (pages 1-4, passim)
Kind regards
Philip Candy
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Can anyone help with the burial of Ann PONTING, wife of Theophilus PONTING, in about 1801? She was born about 1769, so would have been around 32 years old.
The burial is likely to be in Wellow, Norton St Philip or Kilmersdon.
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Philip Candy
This information has now come to hand. If other researchers are following this thread, Ann PONTING was buried on 18 January 1801 at Foxcote.
Philip Candy
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Hi Phil- Just wanted to let you know. I identified some unknown family photo's today. One is of Tom Candy Ponting and his wife Margaret. We knew they were Ponting's, just did'nt know who. I came across a photo in a library book at Cornell College. It was a photo of Tom and I could'nt belive my eyes. I have another photo ( taken the same day ) with him and some other men. I think the older men are his brother's and the younger one's to be son's. If your interested I would be glad to e-mail a copy to you. Just let me know.
Gretchen
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My name is Chris.
I am married to a Ponting and have traced the family history from Ann and Theo. I have a copy of Tom Candy Ponting's book and some photographs of Chilcompton where they lived. Please get in touch.
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Phil.
I have been researching for about a year. I have photo's of some of the family from the 19c and marrige certificates. There is also a website (Steve Trotters Family tree). He is a distant cousin of my wife. I got the Tom Candy book from another cousin called Ivon Ponting who is a newspaper sports reporter. I did not know that Theophilos remarried and had children. What happened to Elizabeth and the mother Sophia.
John Ponting is my wifes line. One of his sons Fred married a Jane Bartlett from Cirencester and one of thier sons was my wifes Gt Gt Grandfarther.
I have visited Foxcote Church and on the wall is a memoril to Richard Ponting who died 6th June 1715 aged 59 years and his son William who died at 18 years who died on 5th March 1708/9. In and around that area there are lots of Candy's buried in the churchyards at Kilminsdon.
There is also a line of the family called Stone they also went to America and joined up with Tom Candy. Tom Candy was born at Haydon Farm, Writhlington which still stands.
I hope Gretchen reads this and contacts.
Hope you can help about the wife and children. I only live 10 miles from the area and can visit the sites and the record office.
Chris
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If anyone is interested in names on photos, I may be able to help. We have many of the original US photos with many of the names wrote on the back. The were passed on to us by my grandfather, Tom Ponting.
Travis
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Im very interested if you can ID them Gretchin has sent me the photo,s. What is your connection to the Ponting,s
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My wife is a Ponting from the same family.
Chris Reeves
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I have a connection to a relative to Tom Candy Ponting. My grandfather was Tom Ponting who was born in, I believe, 1906. He is a grandson to Tom Candy Ponting, but I am not sure who his parents were. I am interested to find out which of Tom C Ponting's children were my grandfathers parents.
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The son of Tom Candy Ponting you are looking for is, Everett Austin Ponting b. 16 Aug. 1876. Everett was married to Stella Rockey in 1905. Their sons name was, Tom Rockey Ponting. Please feel free to contact me at
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Tom Candy Ponting was my g - greatgrand uncle. His brother William Ponting was my g- greatgrandfather.
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Has anyone been in contact with Travis222 yet ? I wrote to him, and have had no reply. ??? ???
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I have found two large family tombs in the church at Wellow Somerset. This is a neighboring village to Foxcote where the Ponting family came from in the 1600c. The names on the tombs are Richard Ponting. Mary wife of Joseph Ponting d. 7.5.1818. Mary dau. of Mary and Joseph d. 14.3.1814. Eleanor dau. of the above d.10.8.1815. Joseph father d.7.9.1822.
Along with Richard are Ann Beavon and Worthy Beavan. She was Ann Ponting. In the records his name is called Beaver?
Has anyone any information about this family. They are large tombs near the front entrance to the church,so one can presume the family was wealthy?
Chris Reeves
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Chris
It's not sure whether the Richard PONTING referred to here is Joseph's father or his son.
However I would think that Joseph is a son of Richard and Mary PONTING, baptised on 4 September 1757 at Hemington, which is where Richard was living when he married Mary DEANS at Wellow on 8 Jun 1756.
Kind regards
Phil Candy
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I am Travis222 sister. I believe Gretchen was inquiring.
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I have found two large family tombs in the church at Wellow Somerset. This is a neighboring village to Foxcote where the Ponting family came from in the 1600c. The names on the tombs are Richard Ponting. Mary wife of Joseph Ponting d. 7.5.1818. Mary dau. of Mary and Joseph d. 14.3.1814. Eleanor dau. of the above d.10.8.1815. Joseph father d.7.9.1822.
Along with Richard are Ann Beavon and Worthy Beavan. She was Ann Ponting. In the records his name is called Beaver?
Has anyone any information about this family. They are large tombs near the front entrance to the church,so one can presume the family was wealthy?
Chris Reeves
I am a Ponting and have my oldest Ponting ancestor back to Westerleigh in Glocs in 1680 - a Samuel Ponting and it all stops there. I had been exploring a possible connection with the Somerset Pontings (which must ultimately exist somewhere down the line). I went to Wellow this weekend and saw the Richard Ponting etc tombs outside but couldnt access neighbouring Foxcote cemetary. Quite simply there was nowhere and I mean nowhere to park a car within miles (roads are the narrowest ive ever been down in England) and the Church itself seemed permanently guarded by a growling dog (no joke!)
I'll try again when im next down in somerset...
Has anyone exploring Ponting connections with the village of Poyntington in North West Dorset. This village is only a short way away from the cluster of Pontings in Somerset in Somerset and South Glocs (and Wiltshire for that matter). Seems hard to ignore. May suggest name is not of French origin too as Poyntington is featured in the Domesday book as Punditone......
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I wonder if there is anyone still watching this thread - I have only just joined rootchat. My name is Diana Reeves and my great great grandfather was Frederick Ponting, one of Tom Candy Ponting's brothers. We always had a copy of Tom Candy's autobiograhy and it was always my ambition to follow his trail from Illinois to Texas. I did that in 2009 - what an experience - and it would be fantastic to touch base with people who have contributed to this thread. In hope....
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My wife great grandfather was also Frederick he married jane Bartlett from Cirencester. Is this one of the same?
Chris
Ps as a side my name is Reeves?
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Hi Chris
Almost sure this is not the same Frederick - my grandfather married Martha Ponting - their son Frederick John went to Canada, went through the whole WW1 in Royal Canadian Dragoons and then was killed in November 1919 when a bridge collapsed under the train of which he was the fireman.
I do not have the details to hand, but I know I have seen another Frederick Reeves but I seem to remember he married Eliza. What is the Ponting connection in your family?
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My wife is a Ponting, Tom Candy was a brother of her Gt Gt Grandfather. We have a copy of his book, which we got from my wife cousin. Ivan Ponting. Her grandfather went to Canada and married at Winnipeg. They returned to England just before the 1st world war. He went with a brother and his future wife brothers aswell. They are the Curtis's and came from Newton St. Loe, near Bath.
I have traced the family back to 1600 at Foxcote, Somerset, then via Kilmersdon, Chilcompton to Bristol.
I have a photo of the memorial that Tom Candy Ponting refers to in his book from Foxcote Church. Fred Reeves was the Postmaster at Chilcompton and he married a Martha Ponting
Chris
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That is interesting Chris - the Fred you mention is my grandfather. But what really interests me is the Canada story. My father, Walter Percival Reeves, went to Canada and so did his brothers, Joseph and Jack (Frederick John) and they settled in Saskatoon - he is at Reed House (the Post Office) in Chilcompton in the 1911 Census working in the business - so is his brother Joseph but not Jack. I am not sure when he actually went to Canada - I think he is probably the Reeves I have found in the passenger lists in 1913 - he enlisted in the Canadian Dragoons in 1915 in Saskatoon. He went back to Canada after the war and was demobilised and I think he came back permanently to the UK in 1923.
What was the name of your wife's grandfather? I wonder if a number of them went from Chilcompton, not just the Reeves. I went to Moweaqua where Tom Candy Ponting settled - he lived in the Ponting Mansion which looks a bit like a "gone with the wind" southern mansion! I know that one of his nephews, Richard Stone, lived with him and I wondered why my father didn't go to him rather than the colder wastes of Canada. As you know from the autobiography, Tom Candy had been back to visit relatives in the early 1900s.
I went to the church at Foxcote - met a milk lorry on the way so you can imagine. Parked in the farmyard opposite the church but the church was locked. Would like to see the photo you have.
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I can send you what I have picture wise, but I will need your email and rootschat delete emails. I have some old photos of Chilcompton from a book with the post office in them. My email is (*)
If they allow it to be sent.
Chris
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My direct 8th gt gf on my grandmothers side is richard ponting of foxcote b:1659. Does anyone know of anymore family beyond this. i will be visiting foxcote and know there are ponting monuments dating to 1526 ish.
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I also have a detailed family tree prior richard
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Sorry to take this time to get back to you.
Rich/Richard Ponton and wife Joan Ponton.
The earliest record I have is as follows. I have pictures of the memorial and Foxcote Farm which I think the Pontings built in 1650ish.
William Ponton the son of Farmer Rich Ponton and Joan Ponton was buried at Foxcote church 9th March 1708. The oath was given by Richard Ponton junior. This is how the name is spelt in the records. This is confirmed in the memorial states. The date is set as either 1708 or 1709 which would suggest that the memorial was made sometime after his death and they could not remember the exact date.
We do not know how many children they had. There was William Ponton died aged 18 years, and a Richard junior. There is also a witness called Harriet Ruth Ponton. A reading of his will may give more details of the children?
The next record is that of a funeral of Robert Smith esq. Who was buried on the 13th May 1714? The oath was given by Joan Ponting. (The name has changed).
In the records there is recorded the burials of Joan Ponting wife of farmer Rich Ponting who made the oath for her. This is recorded as 17th July 1714.
Richard Ponting Farmer buried on 10th June 1715. Joan Biggs made the oath.
The other Richard Ponting at the bottom of the memorial is their grandson.
Chris Reeves
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We do not know how many children they had. There was William Ponton died aged 18 years, and a Richard junior. There is also a witness called Harriet Ruth Ponton. A reading of his will may give more details of the children?
The will of Richard Ponting of Foscot, 15 Apr 1715, names only three children, all sons. Richard, Theophilus and John. Here's a brief summary.
Richard was left a farm called Battchellors at South Wraxall
Theophilus got the farm at Norton St Phillip lately bought from Richard Rendall, Jane his wife and others, and any money owed to his father
Richard got the stock and goods at the estate father rented at Foscott
"My loving son" John got his debts to his father, £400 and £20 a year.
Richard, Theophilus and John Whatley of Bradford trustees of a fund to support any children of John.
Residue to Richard and Theophilus equally
Executors Richard and Theophilus.
Probate 15 July 1715
David
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William Ponton the son of Farmer Rich Ponton and Joan Ponton was buried at Foxcote church 9th March 1708. The oath was given by Richard Ponton junior. This is how the name is spelt in the records. This is confirmed in the memorial states. The date is set as either 1708 or 1709 which would suggest that the memorial was made sometime after his death and they could not remember the exact date.
The date is written as 9 Mar 1708/9 because of the peculiarities of the calendar at that time. Briefly, the official New Year's Day was 25 March but many people used 1 Jan. This burial date was in the period which was in either 1708 or 1709 depending on which system was being used. Historians and transcribers write the date this way so that the reader can tell which year is intended whichever system was used in the original record. It does not imply that no-one could remember the exact date. (There is some uncertainty though. It can be hard to work out which system was being used, especially in a small parish where the register might only have one or two entries a year.)
David
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Thanks for that information. In the past I have been to the Somerset Records Office at Taunton. They have some wills and other doc's from the Ponting's but they are difficult to transcribe. I have started with Rich Ponton and come forward so the tree spread and I have a large number of names.
My wife is a Ponting, came from Foxcote to Haydon Farm then Kilmersdon to Chilcompton then Bristol. Her farther was Arthur Ponting son of Arthur William Ponting.
What is your connection to the family. The oldest Ponting surviving is Stanley Ponting of Cirencester my wife Uncle.
I have some photo's of the farm at Haydon and some graves at Wellow.
Chris Reeves
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Hi Chris
I don't have a direct connection to the Pontings myself. A friend whose family I've helped research is descended from a Theophilus Ponting Clement of Norton St Philip, born about 1787. The name certainly suggests a connection with the Foxcot Pontings. I think he was a grandson of a Joan Ponting who was a daughter of the Richard Ponting who was a son of the one who died in 1715.
I do have a very indirect link. For much of the 19th century Foxcot Farm seems to have been ocupied by an Edgell family, who were cousins of mine, many times removed. I've no idea how they came to replace the Pontings. Perhaps they were related.
David
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Can you give me more details about Clement, I have lots of Pontings at Norton St. Phillips but not this one. Chris
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Can you give me more details about Clement, I have lots of Pontings at Norton St. Phillips but not this one.
He's not actually a Ponting, Clement is his surname, Ponting his second Christian name.
He was the son of Richard Clement and Hannah, baptised at Norton St Philip in 1787
http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/SearchResults.pl?RecordType=Baptisms&RecordID=2025979
I think his mother was Hannah Grist from Hemington, married at NSP in 1783
http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/SearchResults.pl?RecordType=Marriages&RecordID=617160
His father was the son of Samuel and Joan, baptised at NSP in 1745.
http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/SearchResults.pl?RecordType=Baptisms&RecordID=2025333
They would seem to be this couple, married at NSP earlier the same year
http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/SearchResults.pl?RecordType=Marriages&RecordID=616844
making Joan a Ponting. She could be the daughter of Richard and Katherine baptised at Foxcote in 1720
http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/SearchResults.pl?RecordType=Baptisms&RecordID=1973679
David
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Hi Chris,
Our families are closely linked as Stanley Ponting is my fathers uncle and they have a close relationship today. My grandmother was a Ponting and was Stanley's sister.
regards
iain
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To Iain.
Stanley's daughter Ruth lives just around the corner from us. My wife is in contact with her and we have met Stanley. What was your grandmother's name? My wife's father was Arthur Ponting he died a few years ago now. He was Stanley's 1st cousin. We live in Bristol what part of the country are you from. My wife is due to visit Stanley with Ruth before Christmas.
Chris
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Hello Chris,
Mary Elizabeth Ponting was my grandmother, I know Ruth very well...she is my godmother. She will be able to fill you in on a lot of family info :) I live in Somerset where my family are in the Yeovil/Taunton area. Tell Ruth I said hello hehe.
Iain
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Iain.
Can you give me some more details about Mary Elizabeth Ponting, ie date of birth and her parents. I have looked in my Ponting tree and I can't find her. I go back as far as Richard Ponting of Foxcote 1600 ish. Carols ancestors then moved to Kilmersdon, Chilcompton and then Bristol.
Her Grandfather was Arthur William Ponting born 21.12.1889 Bristol.
Chris