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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Yorkshire (West Riding) => Topic started by: Tony Lund on Monday 14 August 06 14:34 BST (UK)
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I am trying to find which cemetery a man who died in 1918 was buried in. It will be in Holmfirth, but there are a few and none that seem obvious. I have seen four different spellings for his Christian name plus two short versions.
He is Gamaliel Boothroyd who was a Private (23419), 20th Battalion, Durham Light Infantry. He died on the morning of Sunday 20th October 1918 at the Holmfirth Auxiliary Hospital. He was twenty-nine years old. He lived at Pog Ing, Holmfirth, as a boy he had attended Wooldale Council School and Wooldale Town End Primitive Methodist Sunday School and later worked with his father in the Yeast Business. He enlisted in June 1916 with the Durham Light Infantry and went to France in October 1916.
In June 1917 he was severely wounded in the left thigh and his left hand. The hand became almost useless and he was medically discharged as disabled. Back in Holmfirth the doctors wanted to operate but felt it necessary to wait until his health improved and he grew stronger, eventually it was decided to go ahead with the operation, however he became much worse as a result and subsequently died.
His death is registered in the ordinary home deaths, December Quarter 1918. But not on the Commonwealth War Graves Commission Register, which is a pity because they always give the cemetery details. He is one of a small number of Holmfirth men who died in or as a result of the war that I still do not have the burial details of.
I would greatly appreciate any information, it will probably be somewhere that will seem obvious once known, but I need to have positive information whenever possible.
Thanks,
Tony.
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Hi Tony,
The NBI only covers Holmfirth Holy Trinity and the Wesleyan Chapel - he isn't listed in either of those places.
Jill
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Thank you Jill, at least that is two possibilities off the list.
Thanks again,
Tony.
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I would guess that the NBI is National Burial Index?
Where is this available? There are a couple of other men who are also proving difficult to find, and I expect there will be more before I am done with this.
Thanks,
Tony.
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Hi Tony,
Correct. The NBI is produced by the FFHS and consists of 4 cds with burials from the 16th century through to 2003 - 13.2 million of them - but it is far from complete, although some areas have better coverage than others.
Mine came from S&N Genealogy supplies: www.genealogysupplies.com but I imagine it is available from other places too. It is quite expensive!
If I can be of further help to you all you have to do is shout!
Jill
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Thanks Jill,
I am putting together a history of Holmfirth and district during the First World War and some of the men who died are not on the Commonwealth War Graves Register. Also a contact in New Zealand who has some interesting information asked me about her ancestor, Martin Bullock, he died in the Huddersfield area in 1900 between late June and late September. She would really like to know where he is buried. I have two men who died as civilians in 1916 and 1918 respectively and I cannot even say if they are buried in England, Scotland or Ireland.
So I am looking at anything I can think of that might help. I hope to tidy up all these loose ends during the coming year.
Tony.
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Hi Tony,
The NBI only covers England & Wales and there is no Martin Bullock listed in the West Riding of Yorkshire in 1900 +/- 2 years - sorry!
Jill
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Thank you Jill, so he is not at Holmfirth Holy Trinity or the Wesleyan Chapel. I can see I will have to have a little survey of the Holmfirth cemeteries and churchyards and find the registers for them one at a time.
Thanks again,
Tony.
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Just a word of warning -
if we look at this page
http://www.ffhs.org.uk/General/Projects/NBIcounties/WRY2.htm
it tells us that the NBI coverage of Holmfirth Wesleyan is between 1814-37, and 1849-52 and Holy Trinity is only 1759-1877 so someone buried there in 1918 would not be covered on the NBI would they?
~ Claire
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Well spotted Claire!
Jill
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It looks like there is no easy option here!
I shall have to make a list of the lot and find out where their registers are and go through them all one at a time.
Thank you,
Tony.
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I suppose you know he has a medal card at the National Archives? (Gambel)
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I was hoping there might be some sort of cemetery register that would help, but it looks like I will have to check all the local ones individually. Still, it was worth a try.
His family used the words “Died of Wounds” in an In Memorandum notice in the Holmfirth Express, but the official cause of death was given on the death certificate as tuberculosis of the lungs and spine.
He will have been buried at Holmfirth but where as not yet been established.
His Christian name is spelt in a variety of ways:
He is Gamiliel Boothroyd, an 11 year old schoolboy at Wooldale, Holmfirth, on the 1901 census.
He is Gamaliel Boothroyd on the Holmfirth Parish Church Memorial.
He is Camaliel Boothroyd on the main Holmfirth Memorial: Wooldale section.
The Medal Rolls have a Private Gambel Boothroyd, 23419, 20th battalion, Durham Light Infantry.
So he is Gamiliel, Gamaliel, Camaliel, and Gambel.
But his birth and death are registered as Gamaliel, so I am using that as the correct spelling. His father had the same Christian name and was known as locally as Gam Boothroyd.
Tony.
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Hi
I am sure if you give Barnsley Archives a ring they could put you on the right track to who would hold the cemetery records on fiche ?
Tel: 01226 773938
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A quick look at Genuki suggests that the C of E registers for Holmfirth at least are held by WYAS in Wakefield. But I didn't spot any reference to nonconformist church records or cemetery records.
Jon
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Thank you both, it looks as if some records for this district are at Wakefield and some at Huddersfield.
Tony.
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this link maybe of interest to this thread
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,597855.0.html
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Odds are Martin Bullock is buried at Edgerton Cem try Huddersfield
Local History Dept they may help Mirf
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Gamiel buried New Mill Church age 29 Abode Hospital Holmfirth Militiary
record on Ancestry West Yorks Parish Reg regards Mirf
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Thank you for that. I will have to take another look around New Mill there the next time I am out there.
Thanks again,
Tony.
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this link maybe of interest to this thread
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,597855.0.html
Tony
Martin Bullock Grave found see above & below link (page 2)
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,597855.0.html
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Whilst browsing this thread, 2 things have occured to me-
-what are the origins of the name Gamiliel? seems very unusual, especially for Holmfirth.
-I would have expected the man to have served in the Dukes (1st 5th?), that seems to be where most Holmfirthers enlisted including mygrandfathers and greatuncles.
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I am trying to find which cemetery a man who died in 1918 was buried in. It will be in Holmfirth, but there are a few and none that seem obvious. I have seen four different spellings for his Christian name plus two short versions.
He is Gamaliel Boothroyd who was a Private (23419), 20th Battalion, Durham Light Infantry. He died on the morning of Sunday 20th October 1918 at the Holmfirth Auxiliary Hospital. He was twenty-nine years old. He lived at Pog Ing, Holmfirth, as a boy he had attended Wooldale Council School and Wooldale Town End Primitive Methodist Sunday School and later worked with his father in the Yeast Business. He enlisted in June 1916 with the Durham Light Infantry and went to France in October 1916.
In June 1917 he was severely wounded in the left thigh and his left hand. The hand became almost useless and he was medically discharged as disabled. Back in Holmfirth the doctors wanted to operate but felt it necessary to wait until his health improved and he grew stronger, eventually it was decided to go ahead with the operation, however he became much worse as a result and subsequently died.
His death is registered in the ordinary home deaths, December Quarter 1918. But not on the Commonwealth War Graves Commission Register, which is a pity because they always give the cemetery details. He is one of a small number of Holmfirth men who died in or as a result of the war that I still do not have the burial details of.
I would greatly appreciate any information, it will probably be somewhere that will seem obvious once known, but I need to have positive information whenever possible.
Thanks,
Tony.
1) ~Gamiliel - origins Greek, Hebrew, Jewish (Biblical name)
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2)~He is Gamaliel Boothroyd who was a Private (23419), 20th Battalion, Durham Light Infantry