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Title: how to determine which is right birth registration
Post by: terrijay on Monday 01 November 04 12:23 GMT (UK)
Silly question I know! How can I decide which birth registration is the right one, without sending off for both certificates. An expensive option.
My grandfather was William Matterson. He married Jan 1904 aged 25 years. There are two records one for Dec qtr 1907 (Wharfedale) and one for March qtr 1908(Teesdale) I know his parents were both from Cumberland and also in 1911 they were living elsewhere as they had a child in 1911 registered in Houghton. William was back in cumberland when he married my Grandmother. The family on both sides were Miners. i have tried to search different parish records on line with no success. Help!
Title: Re: how to determine which is right birth registration
Post by: peterbennett on Monday 01 November 04 13:03 GMT (UK)
Hi
   Welcome
Sorry don't quite follow who'se birth it is your looking for.
If its your Grandfather William, have you any census details that would confirm his place of birth, as niether Teesdale or Wharfedale are in Cumberland.
I am sure we will be able to help with a little more info

regards

peterbennett

Title: Re: how to determine which is right birth registration
Post by: Hackstaple on Monday 01 November 04 13:39 GMT (UK)
This posting confused me no end. You say that he was 25 in 1904. Then you say you are looking for his birth in 1907 or 1908 - whose birth?
Have you looked on the 1881 census [free!] for him as would be 2 years old then - 1891 [12 years] - 1901 21 or 22 years old.
Have you considered different variants on the surname? I supsect Matterson is the LEAST common of those so mistakes are easily made on censuses and certificates.
There are a great many places called Houghton in England - family history research needs accuracy of Time and Place.
The Beginners Board deals with all of these matters in great depth:
http://www.rootschat.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=3996.0
Title: Re: how to determine which is right birth registration
Post by: terrijay on Monday 01 November 04 13:54 GMT (UK)
sorry having a bad hrt day! William matterson was married to Martha Bragg Daglish on January 5th 1933. hence I cannot find him on census as none are released after the 1901 census.
I have found His parents on 1901 census living at Great Clifton Cumberland.
Title: Re: how to determine which is right birth registration
Post by: Heather D on Monday 01 November 04 14:04 GMT (UK)
None of which really answers your original question does it terrijay?   :)

The sad fact is that most of us who have been at this a while have lost money by taking a chance and getting the wrong result.

However, when you order a certificate you can specify certain details to be checked to make sure you have the right one, such as parents christian names or mother's maiden name. If it then turns out to be not the one you want, they will retain £3 for the search and refund the rest of your money.

I seem to remember there is also an option to supply more than one reference and instruct them to stop looking when the right entry turns up. But in the end, we sometimes have to take a chance!
Title: Re: how to determine which is right birth registration
Post by: Hackstaple on Monday 01 November 04 14:26 GMT (UK)
I'm still no wiser about who youy are searching for but here is a record that may relate to it:

BIRTHS Sep 1/4 1872 Vol 10b Pg 581
Matterson, William
Title: Re: how to determine which is right birth registration
Post by: Heather D on Monday 01 November 04 14:37 GMT (UK)
Shall we simplify? I'm reading this as Terrijay is looking for a birth record for her grandfather William Matterson, who married in Jan 1933 age 25. There are a couple of possible birth registrations in 1907 and 1908 and she would like advice on how to make sure she has the right person?

Please correct/forgive me if I'm wrong Terrijay (I often am!)
Title: Re: how to determine which is right birth registration
Post by: peterbennett on Monday 01 November 04 14:38 GMT (UK)
Hi again
             Looking at the dates I would say that the 1908 Teesdale looks favourite, If you do not want to purchace certificate because it may be the wrong one,then I would advise
the following, ring the relevant reg office (Stockton for Teesdale)  and tell them your plight, if you give them his parents names they will generally look it up, please give them all the relevant details, you have nothing to loose but a few pence for the call. Details of telephone numbers etc can be found on this link please copy and paste the full link
http://www.durham.gov.uk/recordoffice/usp.nsf/lookup/txthandlists/$file/userguide01.txt

good luck

peterbennett
Title: Re: how to determine which is right birth registration
Post by: terrijay on Monday 01 November 04 16:23 GMT (UK)
Thank you heather B, it sounded so easy reading your version. Also thankyou Peter I will phone them tomorrow.
Title: Re: how to determine which is right birth registration
Post by: JDT61 on Thursday 04 August 05 15:17 BST (UK)
Hi,

Just browsing and noticed I have a stretched link to your tree via Isabella Bragg (my great grand father Joseph's sister) who married Henry Harkness (date?). Their daughter Martha Bragg Harkness (b.1885) married Jacob Daglish (b.?) in 1904. Their Daughter Martha Bragg Daglish (b?) married William Matterson i have a date of 25/01/1933. I know they had at least one daughter called Gwendoline in 1934.

I have more info that my be of interest to your tree. If you have dates for the '?' above I'd appreciate them.

Regards

John





Title: Re: how to determine which is right birth registration
Post by: robert13 on Sunday 15 July 12 14:15 BST (UK)
hi john, i also believe we are related through isabella bragg and henry harkness would love to hear from you

robert.
Title: Re: how to determine which is right birth registration
Post by: Boney007 on Sunday 15 July 12 15:32 BST (UK)
Can u please help me get in touch with "fallingonabruise" thats his/her log in name in hear thats all i know. Its regarding joseph knowles. Cheers
Title: Re: how to determine which is right birth registration
Post by: BumbleB on Sunday 15 July 12 15:40 BST (UK)
Boney007 - you'll have to make two more posts (3 in all) before you can send a private message to fallingonabruise.  When you've made the 3 posts then you can contact the person by clicking on the green scroll under their name.

Title: Re: how to determine which is right birth registration
Post by: Boney007 on Sunday 15 July 12 15:47 BST (UK)
Cheers am new to this could you please send him a msg for me and ask him to get intouch. Cheers
Title: Re: how to determine which is right birth registration
Post by: BumbleB on Sunday 15 July 12 16:00 BST (UK)
The same ruling applies for her/him to contact you by PM.  One more post  ;D
Title: Re: how to determine which is right birth registration
Post by: Boney007 on Sunday 15 July 12 16:38 BST (UK)
How do i find him/her mate
Title: Re: how to determine which is right birth registration
Post by: BumbleB on Sunday 15 July 12 16:52 BST (UK)
Ah, that 's your next challenge!!  Where have you got the name from?  I ask because you'll have to use the Search tab at the top of the site to locate a topic which included responses from fallingonabruise - you can't just try a search on the name because I've tried that myself   :-*, so that you can then send a message via the green scroll!!!  I'm afraid that I haven't had any dealings with this person, so can't help in that respect as I have no idea of the interests.
Title: Re: how to determine which is right birth registration
Post by: Boney007 on Sunday 15 July 12 16:58 BST (UK)
Can i post u the link if thats ok too see if you cam help me
Title: Re: how to determine which is right birth registration
Post by: BumbleB on Sunday 15 July 12 17:08 BST (UK)
OK
Title: Re: how to determine which is right birth registration
Post by: Boney007 on Sunday 15 July 12 17:14 BST (UK)
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=50vu60jfm51k78ktrsscth7a52&action=printpage;topic=391537.0
Title: Re: how to determine which is right birth registration
Post by: BumbleB on Sunday 15 July 12 17:31 BST (UK)
Great.  What you now have to do is to click on that link, which will bring up the Torrey Canyon post.  Then click on the green scroll under the name and send a message.  She's obviously still active, although not on line since June 2012 - probably on holiday!!  Good luck!!

Title: Re: how to determine which is right birth registration
Post by: Boney007 on Sunday 15 July 12 18:01 BST (UK)
Thank you so much