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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Cheshire => Topic started by: Jayson on Wednesday 09 August 06 11:43 BST (UK)
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Hi
Can anybody possibly tell me whether there are any memorial tablets/tombstons relating to the WADE family located inside St Bartholomew's Church?
Jayson
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Hope these help
http://www.fhsc.org.uk/genuki/chs/churchminshull.html
http://www.churchminshull.org.uk/history2.htm
Regards John
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Hi John
Thank you very much for these interesting links. Unfortunately, they don't make any mention of monuments. Never mind!
Thanks
Jayson
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Hi, I am researching the Wade Family who are from this area. Apparently there is a vault relating to the Wade family close to the tower. I visited the church today but could find no vault as there was scaffolding and corrugated sheets around the tower as repair work is being carried out. There was no inscriptions inside the church. I was wondering if you had found any information out on this subject? as apparently there is a list of the names of the people that are in the vault in chester archives as it was opened in the 1980s.
regards
Norma
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Hi Norma
I'm pleased that this topic has been brought back to life again!
I visited Church Minshull last year, and, like you, couldn't find any tombstones relating to the Wade family in the churchyard there. I thought it possible that there might have been a memorial tablet or something inside indicating the location of a family vault. However, the church was locked up when I went.
Now you mention it, I do seem to remember seeing a large-ish vault in the churchyard (close to the tower) but it appeared to be blank, or at least worn.
My ancestor's sister, Ann Bayley, married Edward Wade in the seventeenth century. Ann was born at Madeley in Staffordshire in 1659. She was the daughter of James Bayley and Jane Weston.
The BT's for Church Minshull have the burials of Ann and her husband, Edward:
"Mrs Ann Wade wife to Mr Edward Wade, Gent buried the 7th Sept 1727."
"Mr Edward Wade buried Feb the 14th 1735."
Is this the same family that you are researching? I am going to Chester very soon and will ask about the list of persons buried in the vault. How did you find out about this?
There's also a General Wade. But I don't know much about him. He died in the 1760s. I was told of his existence by a local historian. He also showed me a picture of the house where the Wade family lived.
Best
Jayson
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Hi Jayson
This is the family I am researching, my line comes down from Edward Wade through his daughter Mary who married a Henshaw Stubbs. I have information on the Stubbs, but none on the Wades. I found the information about the Wade tomb on the Church Minshull website: http://www.churchminshull.org.uk/history2.htm. There was a mention of an Edward Wade son of Edward Wade date? within the church with regards to giving money to the poor but that was all, unless there was a plaque in the back room?
I too was planning a trip to chester records office got lots to look up!!
Regards Corinne and Norma
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Hi Corinne/Norma
I suppose you already have the will of the Edward Wade I mentioned in my last post? I got his will from the record office in Chester via their online ordering system. I haven't looked at the will for some time, but I think Edward left his property to his son Peter Wade.
There was also a son called Hugh. He was baptised at Madeley in Staffordshire, and was, I think, the couple's first child. I think it was usual in those days for the wife to return to her home parish for the birth of the first child.
If your interested, you can find out a bit more about the family from whom your direct ancestor, Ann Wade (nee Bayley) was descended from in Burke's Landed Gentry (1937 edition) under "Bayley of Willaston Hall". Chester Record Office have a copy of this.
Interestingly, Ann's grandfather, John Weston, left money in his will to John Bradshaw. He presided over the trial of King Charles I, after which he pronounced the sentence to the king.
Will see what else I find on the Wade family.
Jayson
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Hi Jayson
Nope I don't have the will for Edward Wade, I only recently found out that there was one for him, Im going to chester archieves a week tuseday so I was going to have a look then. I have seen a partical transcript of it though on ancestry and he did leave the property to Peter. I didn't know about the son Hugh, and I've just found Edward Wades marriage in Madeley.
Do you know the reason why John Weston would leave money to John Bradshaw?
Im looking forward to digging up some more information on the family, as I haven't had time to look for a long while!! :)
Corinne
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Hi Corinne
I'll give you some details on the Weston family in my next post. Hugh Wade, Edward and Ann's son, was named after his grandfather, Hugh Weston, of Madeley.
John Bradshaw was a successful lawyer. It's possible that John Weston had occasion to use his services as a lawyer to resolve some dispute, and this bequest might have been a token of thanks. I think there is something in Chancery about a dispute. I think it's Weston vs Offley.
You can find out more about John Bradshaw at:
http://www.british-civil-wars.co.uk/biog/bradshaw.htm
Jayson
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Here is the baptism of Hugh Wade:
1681 June 19 HUGH s/o Eward & Ann Wade born 18 June.
I bought (on fiche) the Church Minshull memorial inscriptions a few days ago, and the only mention it made about a burial place was: "The Church contains the vault of the Wade family of Wades Green . . ."
This seems to suggest that the vault is inside the church but not marked by a tablet/tombstone. A possible family connection with General Wade (apparently he was a famous military engineer during the Jacobite period) was also mentioned.
Jayson
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Hi,
I too have a link to the Wades through the Stubbs family. I have got as far back as Mary Wade (1689-1761), daughter of Edward Wade, but no further at present. Numerous sources state that the Wade vault is inside the church, at the base of the tower. Your experiences suggest that it is not well-marked. I am hoping to get down there soon (and to Gawsworth too for the Stubbs), so I'll have a dig around for it.
I see that this topic is a few years old - have either of you managed to find out more about the Wades?
Jo.