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I'm looking for info on Thomas TAYLOR's parents.
My Thomas was born 3 Apr 1859 I believe Mt Pleasant and died 1936?
I believe his father was Henry Taylor but I know nothing about his birthdate, where he was from or his death.
I believe he married Margaret McDonald in SA 1st Jan 1855 so must have come to Australia quite early on.
Have been told she was from Orkney, Ireland and died 1910 in Adelaide but have no info to back that up so not sure if it's entirely accurate.
Can some kind person please look up their marriage info for me and possibly their deaths to start with so hopefully I can view the certificates incase they shed any light on further help.
Thanks in advance,
Lilygirl.
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hello there
HENRY TAYLOR FL W FATHER NOT RECORDED
MARRIED
MARGARET MCDONALD FL S FATHER NOT RECORDED
1866 St patricks church adelia 22/127
Henry was born to theis couple
3/4/1859 MOUNT PLEASANT DISTRICT TAL BOOK 17 PAGE 187
Regards jenn
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Hello Lily
Found Thomas's birth...and as you said, 03/04/1859, parents Henry Taylor and Margaret McDonald....born Mt Pleasant
Also to the same parents found :
Catherine Taylor....19/11/1859
Hugh Taylor....14/01/1863
Margaret Taylor....19/02/1868
William Taylor....11/08/1857
Craizi
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Lily
Also found Margaret's death
Taylor, Margaret 1910/04/18
age 89....widow.....death place Exeter.....Port Adelaide
Craizi
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Hi there
Thanks again so quick!
Does FL mean full age in the marriages?
What is district TAL short for and do you know where the books would be held?
Thanks for the other children births.
Is it possible to post the full entry for them please if not too much trouble.
Also in regard to Catherine how can she be born so close to Thomas don't think that could be right could it??
Thanks peoples.
You're brilliant!
Can anyone find death for Henry?
Cheers,
Lilygirl.
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hello there
HENRY TAYLOR FL W FATHER NOT RECORDED
MARRIED
MARGARET MCDONALD FL S FATHER NOT RECORDED
1866 St patricks church adelia 22/127
Henry was born to theis couple
3/4/1859 MOUNT PLEASANT DISTRICT TAL BOOK 17 PAGE 187
Regards jenn
Hi guys....not sure if it was a typo Jen....but i have the marriage of Henry and Margaret as 01/01/1855.......it also says he was a widow....so this is his 2nd marriage
craizi
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Hi Craizi just pmd Jenn to ask her about that.
suppose I should have posted to the board instead tho.
Is there any other marriages for Thomas? How cool to find that out. Don't suppose his first wife died in Australia by any chance!?!
might be bit difficult to track that one down I reckon!
Ciao for now
Lily.
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Lily
Sorry my typo...Catherine was born 19/11/1855 district TMu....book 6 page 367
Hugh born in Mt Pleasant...District Tal...book 28 page 86
Margaret born in Truro...district Ang...book 61 page 382
Thomas born Mt Pleasant...district Tal...book 17 page 187
William born in Pewsey Vale...district Cra....book 12 page 652
Hope this helps hope you got the correction to Catherines birth details...sorry
Craizi
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hello there
sorry lily my typo it is 55 not 66
als w denotes widon
regards jenn
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Lily...there is a marriage for a Thomas TAYLOR with father Henry..
There is also a Thomas Phillip Taylor and Thomas Robert Taylor in marriages...do you know his 2nd name if any...this is the only Thomas Taylor
Thomas Taylor..m...Elizabeth Baird (father Thomas Baird) 25/12/1879 both age 21 St Patricks church Adelaide.... both single at the time...symbol V book/page 121/1149
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hi Lily
if you think that Thomas and Elizabeth Baird are the right ones...i have 11 children to them...
let me know and i will post them
Craizi
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Hi there
Thanks again so quick!
Does FL mean full age in the marriages?
What is district TAL short for and do you know where the books would be held?
Thanks for the other children births.
Is it possible to post the full entry for them please if not too much trouble.
Also in regard to Catherine how can she be born so close to Thomas don't think that could be right could it??
Thanks peoples.
You're brilliant!
Can anyone find death for Henry?
Cheers,
Lilygirl.
Lily
Tal..= Talunga and
TMu...= The Murray
cant seem to find what FL means though sorry
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Hi
Yeah Thomas did marry Elizabeth.
I had 10 children listed to them but no references at all so must have missed one.
Thanks.
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I'm really interested in trying to find Henry's death if possible. Probably have to be after 1868 (last child born) and before 1910 (wifes death listed as her being a widow)
ALso if there's an entry in the BISA for Henry to maybe know where he came from or if with other family etc anything!!!!!!!!!
Lilygirl.
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Hi
Yeah Thomas did marry Elizabeth.
I had 10 children listed to them but no references at all so must have missed one.
Thanks.
Ok Lily... there are 10 children one is in there twice as they seem to be unsure of his name..where it is Percival Howard or Howard Percy???
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Hi Lily,
Just a tiny bit of info from the BISA-
Henry Taylor Occ: Labourer
Res: Pewsey Vale, Salt Ck, The Tiers, Truro
Rel: RC
You already have the other info.
All the best,
Magoo
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hello there
FL means full age ie over 21
regards jenn
sorry put these posts in an assume that people know what the abbrevs. are
I shall try and not to dit again
jenn
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I'm really interested in trying to find Henry's death if possible. Probably have to be after 1868 (last child born) and before 1910 (wifes death listed as her being a widow)
ALso if there's an entry in the BISA for Henry to maybe know where he came from or if with other family etc anything!!!!!!!!!
Lilygirl.
hello there lily girl
i know you said that margaret died in 1910 have you confirmed this??
i have found another possible
MARGARET DIED IN 1873 AT MOUNT BARKER relative was henry she was aged 38
this henry remarried in 1881 at mount barker
and died there??
only an assumption but
regards jenn
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hello there Lily
also found another possibile child for
HENRY AND MARGARET
henry taylor born 3/9/1865 at Truro Ang. reg 61/382
father henry taylor mother margarte Mcdonald
high probability of being their child other child born in same area
I am sorry i do not know what the abrreviation Ang. stands for
also with the death of Henry there are quite of number of deaths that might be him but without the knowledge of how old he was when he married it will be hard plus sa death certificates from that time do not list parents
regards jenn
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Hi Jenn and All,
I too was wondering what Craizi'a source was for the Margaret death was because the other day I found Henry Taylor in the Mt Barker Cemetery died 1905. No other info available, A Margaret Taylor died 1873 is also there. No other info available
Another Margaret Taylor died 1896 is in the Macclesfield cemetery which is in the Mt Barker area I think. no other info available
Hard to know if there is any connection with so little to link tham
sue
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Hi there,
Thanks for your help.
Just a few queries.
I've got a few entries regarding children of Henry Taylor and Margaret
Above it's been posted that
Catherine was born 19/11/1855 dist TMu
William 11/8/1857 Pewsey Vale dist Cra
Thomas 3/4/1859 Mt Pleasant dist Tal
Hugh 14/01/1863 Mt Pleasant dist Tal
Margaret 19/2/1868 Truro dist Ang
also a Henry born 1865 Truro dist Ang.
Another researcher had listed a Jane born 1861 to Henry and Margaret also - is there any reference to a Jane Taylor in the SA births at all? Looking at the dates she could easily fit in to the gap.
BISA info states Henry lived Pewsey Vale, Salt Ck, The Tiers, Truro
does anyone know what area Salt Creek would refer to?
Also what children if any are listed in BISA to Henry?
also what area is covered by reg. district Talunga?
In regard to the deaths of Henry and Margaret don't really have any way of confirming any of the possibilities as yet. Any suggestions?
Thanks in advance
Lilygirl.
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I'm looking for info on Thomas TAYLOR's parents.
My Thomas was born 3 Apr 1859 I believe Mt Pleasant and died 1936?
I believe his father was Henry Taylor but I know nothing about his birthdate, where he was from or his death.
I believe he married Margaret McDonald in SA 1st Jan 1855 so must have come to Australia quite early on.
Have been told she was from Orkney, Ireland and died 1910 in Adelaide but have no info to back that up so not sure if it's entirely accurate.
Can some kind person please look up their marriage info for me and possibly their deaths to start with so hopefully I can view the certificates incase they shed any light on further help.
Thanks in advance,
Lilygirl.
hello
in your orginal message you have you believed margaret died 1910 in adelaide
was this from another relo research
regards jenn
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Hi Jenn,
Yep that hadn't been confirmed at all.
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Hello there
yes there is a birth for
JANE TAYLOR father henry taylor mother margaret MACDONALD born 24/1/1861 mount pleasant TAL 22/308
this researcher info has been pretty correct to a point so may be she/he did confirm the death in 1910 as correct !!!
so what did happen to henry?
regards jenn
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Hi Craizi Daizi
I'm in Adelaide. I have just read your information re Henry Taylor.
One of the things you asked was "What does the area TL stand for?
My gggrandfather came to South Australia 1855. His name was Denis Brophy. .
Denis settled in a place called Millendella, which is very close to Mount Pleasant. He is buried in the Mount Peasant Cemetery.
Mount Pleasant is a lovely little town, in the are called TALUNGA.
Hope the above helps a bit.
Regards
Twinkleberry.
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Yes, Twinkleberry again!!!!
I have just looked up information on some of the areas where your Taylor family may have lived, and have found some information from the
book "Place Names of South Australia" by Geoffrey Manning. The following is what I found:-
SALT CREEK. - North of Tumby Bay, North of Cowell Bay, nowhere near Mount Pleasant. Information found on page 277 of Manning's Book.
PEWSEY VALE On the bounday of the Barossa Valley. page 247
TIERS Forests of the Mount Lofty Ranges, page 310
TALUNGA County of Adelaide. The name is an aboriginal word for "Creek
TRURO 48km north east of Gawler. page 314.
Hoping this may be of some interest.
Having spent many a visit to Mount Pleasant since a young teenage girl, I would strongly suggest your information should be the area of "Talunga"
Regards
Twinkleberry
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It's me again Craizi Daizi. I turned over a page in my writing pad and saw I had some further information which I had not sent to you. The following is what I did find:-
MARRIAGE
John Andrew Rosewall married Margaret Taylor 7th February 1888 at Burra
CHILDREN BORN TO JOHN ANDREW ROSEWALL & MARGARET TAYLOR
1. Mary Ellen born 23rd August 1890 at Kooringa, District Burra.
2. John Leslie born 5th Janury 1893 in Kooringa District Burra
3. Josiah born 1st February 1896 in Kooringa, District Burra
4. Thomas born 30th April 1898 in Kooringa District Burra
5. Dora born 1907 at Burra
DEATHS
1. Mary Ellen died 1971 in Burra.
2. John Leslie 1962 in Kooringa District Burra
3. Josiah died 1996 in Kooringa District Burra
4. Thomas - death date unknown.
5. Dora died 1871 in Kooringa District Burra.
Hoping the above can be of some help.
Regareds
"Twinkleberry"
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I am afraid there has been a bit of a mixup here. This is not the daughter of Henry and Margaret. This girl is the daughter of James and Ellen married at her mothers residence Burra
Here is the marriage of the daughter of Henry TAYLOR and Margaret McDONALD
FAIRLIE John 21 Single Father William Hamilton FAIRLIE = TAYLOR Margaret 17 Single Father Henry TAYLOR 15 Jan 1886 St Andrew Manse Adelaide Dist Ade 146/323
The other one is the daughter of James TAYLOR and Ellen DOIG of Burra
ROSEWALL John Andrew 25 Single Father Thomas ROSEWALL = TAYLOR Margret 20 Single 23 Jan 1889 Res of Ellen Taylor Kooringa Dist Bur 158/184
By the way I think you can rule out the Margaret died 1910
TAYLOR Margaret aged 89 Widow of Exeter died 18 Apr 1910 at Exeter Dist PtA 348 188 Rel William TAYLOR deceased husband - looks like her husband died in 1884
TAYLOR Margaret aged 38 Mar of Mt Barker died 23 Jul 1873 Mt Barker Dist MtB 53 140 Rel Henry TAYLOR Husband
TAYLOR Henry 79 Mar Status not known of Mt Barker died 16 Feb 1905 Mt Barker Dist MtB 308 26 Rel not recorded
3rd marriage (I Note Henry was widowed at the time of his marriage to Margaret
TAYLOR Henry 56 Widow Father Michael TAYLOR = Caroline Stewart MacFARLANE 45 Single Father Allan MacFARLANE 1 Jun 1881 House Mt Barker Dist MtB 127 844
Cheers Kris :)
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MMM That is not Henry and Margaret buried at Mt Barker ::)
This checks out Henry and Margaret Lewis did have these children in Mt Barker
http://www.clan-cameron.org.au/descend_mdvp.php?personID=I65376&tree=cameron1
So what became of your Henry and Margaret? ....back to the drawing board.
Kris :-\
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:) I have a small tree for James Taylor and Ellen Doig at http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=doigm&id=I51.
Ken Doig, Bass Lake, California www.doig.net
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Hi Lilygirl,
I have just seen your post from 2006, so I'm hoping this will still get to you. I think I may know who Henry Taylor's first marriage was. I have been researching a daughter of one of my ancestors, named Winifred Lyne who married a Henry Taylor in 17 August 1852 in Adelaide. Winifred Taylor [nee Lyne] was killed in 1853 in Encounter Bay [cart accident]. I saw that Henry Taylor, who married Margaret McDonald, was a widow when he married in 1855, so there is a possibility that our Henry Taylors are one and the same.
My Henry Taylor had his age down as 30 years old when he married Winifred, meaning born around 1822. I would be interested in your opinion on this possible connection.
Regards,
David