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Hi
I am trying to locate the family of my convict ancestor, Stephen LE BUSQUE his alias on conviction was Stephen COPLEY.
On his convict records it states he was a native of Sheffield. He was tried at the Derby Assizes in 15 July 1826. He was born circa 1803. The closest person I have found is Stephen DE BUSK son of John DE BUSK and Mary FRANCE christened at St Peter's Cathedral, Sheffield 28 Sep 1803.
My problem is I can't confirm they are the same person. DE BUSK name doesn't appear in the census with any regularity.
I have not been able to find a marriage or a death for Stephen DE BUSK
Has anyone got any suggestions on where I can go from here.
Cheers
gennig
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Hello
England and Wales, Civil Registration Index: 1837-1983
Name Year Quarter District County Volume Page
De Busk, Annie 1882 March Hunslet West Riding of Yorkshire 9b 299
De Busk, Ellen 1876 June Leeds (1837-1929) West Riding of Yorkshire 9b 785
DE BUSK, John 1869 December Pancras London Middlesex 1b 199
De Busk, Mary 1838 June Sheffield South Yorkshire West Riding of Yorkshire 22 605
De Busk, Mary Ann 1867 December Sheffield South Yorkshire West Riding of Yorkshire 9c 222
De Busk, Mary Louisa 1890 September Leeds (1837-1929) West Riding of Yorkshire 9b 753
DE BUSK, Mary Louisa 1890 September Leeds (1837-1929) West Riding of Yorkshire 9b 755
DE BUSK, Samuel 1844 June Greenwich Greater London Kent London Surrey 5 172
DE BUSK, Thomas Joseph 1873 September Sheffield South Yorkshire West Riding of Yorkshire 9c 251
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Hi carol8353
Yes I am interested in the De Busk entries from Sheffield.
De Busk, Mary 1838 June Sheffield South Yorkshire West Riding of Yorkshire 22 605
De Busk, Mary Ann 1867 December Sheffield South Yorkshire West Riding of Yorkshire 9c 222
DE BUSK, Thomas Joseph 1873 September Sheffield South Yorkshire West Riding of Yorkshire 9c 251
Thank you
gennig
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Here you go Gennig,the info from the BMD.
Name: De Busk, Mary
Births
Quarter: June 1838
District: Sheffield
Volume: 22 Page: 605
Name: De Busk, Mary Ann
Deaths
Age at death: 59
Quarter: December 1867
District: Sheffield
Volume: 9c Page: 222
Name: DE BUSK, Thomas Joseph
Deaths
Age at death: 29
Quarter: September 1873
District: Sheffield
Volume: 9c Page: 251
Hope this helps in your search
Carol
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The information I have on the DE BUSK family is:-
John (Thomas) DE BUSK/DEBUSH/DEBUSK/DEBUCK (and any other combination you can think of) born circa 1771 married Mary FRANCE 2 June 1794 Rotherham, Yorkshire
Children: -
John DEBUSH christened 30 Nov 1794 Cathedral Saint Peter, Sheffield Yorkshire
Sophia DEBUSK christened 5 Apr 1797 Cathedral Saint Peter
Thomas DE BUSK christened 17 Feb 1799 Cathedral Saint Peter Married Mary Ann TAGG (I believe I have found his children on 1871 census, living in London)
Susanna DEBUCK Christened 26 Apr 1801 Cathedral Saint Peter
Stephen DEBUSK christened 28 Sep 1803 Cathedral Saint Peter
William James DEBUCK born 20 Jun 1807 christened 26 Jul 1807 Cathedral Saint Peter
John DEBUSK Burial 9 Dec 1814 aged 43 St Paul Sheffield (Anglican)
Mary DEBUSK Burial 19 Dec 1825 aged 61 St Paul Sheffield (Angilcan)
Cheers
Genni
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Hi all
I posted this original message back '05, and i'm still trying to confirm the connection of these families.
I can't go back further until I'm positive they are one and the same person.
Stephen Le Busque was a cutler by trade. Are there apprenticeship records?
I have traced Thomas De Busk's family forward as best I can. I'm hoping someone connected to the family may have some insight.
Thomas DeBusk married Mary Ann Tagg - (i have found them on 1841, 1851, 1861 Census)
Thomas died mar qtr 1865 & Mary Ann died Dec Qtr 1867
1841 Census - HO107/1338/8 Fol: 28 Page: 6
West St, Sheffield
Thomas Debusk 40 Painter born in County
Mary Ann DeBusk 30 born in county
John DeBusk 13 born in county
Mary Debusk 3 born in county
Ellen Debusk 7mths born in county
Thomas & Mary's children:-
John born 16 may 1828 died Dec qtr 1880 (I have found him 1871 census)
married Annie BUXTON Dec Qtr 1869 (Annie remarried Henry LAZENBY 1882) (found on 1881, 1891 & 1901)
Child: George Arthur DE BUSQUE (born: Mar qtr 1874) married Daisy Mary KEMP 1898 (can't find him on 1901) Possibly had a daughter Helen Irene DeBUSQUE who married Leonard RENTON June Qtr 1927
Daisy died 1926 - George Arthur married Edith AINSCOUGH 1929
Mary born 24 Feb 1838 (Charlotte St Sheffield) d 11 Feb 1852 Sheffield
Ellen married James WADE June Qtr 1876 (found on 1871, 1881 & 1891)
Children: Mary Louisa DE BUSQUE born Sep Qtr 1875 married John William HODGSON 1890 (found on 1901)
Eleanor born circa 1878
James born circa 1879
William born circa 1887 (found him living with Mary HODGSON 1901)
Ada Louise born Jun Qtr 1842 died 1898 Wakefield (not found 1881 & 1891)
Thomas Joseph born Sep Qtr 1844 died Sep Qtr 1873
Regards
Genni
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Leader's list of the Apprentices and Freemen of the Cutlers' Company can be found on Eric Youle's site:
http://freepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~exy1/cutlers/Index.html
However, that list ends early in the 19th century (the date 1811 comes to mind?), perhaps just too early to include Stephen. There is however a John DeBusque who could be the one mentioned above.
There are later records but they have not been published. It might be worth asking the Company's Archivist if they can help. I can't find an email address for the archivist but the Company's website is here: http://www.cutlers-hallamshire.org.uk/
Hugh
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Have you looked for newspaper reports of the trial?
Hugh
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This suggests his parents were Francis and Maria:
http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.labowski/14/mb.ashx
Perhaps the information came from the Australian death certificate which asks for parents' names. You can order them online:
https://online.justice.vic.gov.au/bdm/home
Richard
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Hi all
Thankyou for your replies, will follow up the Hallamshire cutlers.
Dalum - I have the newpaper report and trial records and genral pardon. He was tried at the Derby Assizes, did spend some time in gaol as the incident happened in Early June but was not tried until 15th July. I don't know if there is anyway to find out who visited him there.
rjknott - I have extensively search all Australian records and have his death & marriage certificate, there is no mention of parents names. The ancestry board you have linked is known to me, and I have no knowledge of a Francis & Maria. Maria was Stephen's wife, I don't know where that information has come from, I am in contact with all relatives researching the surname and we have all come to the same brickwall.
Regards
Genni
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Hello
I am researching this name (De Busk) for my neighbour whose ancestry includes the De Busk family from Sheffield.
I found a Stephen De Busk in the criminal records on Ancestry who also went by the alias of Copley, he was convicted once for larceny in 1823 and sentenced to death for house breaking in 1826 under the name of Busque and as you say tried at the Derby Assizes but I found some info through googling the name Stephen Copley that suggests he was transported to Tasmania on the ship Andromeda which arrived at Van Diemans land on 23 Feb 1827. This information states :Stephen Le Busque alias Copley. Derbyscourts.com/index/data/1826html
If this is one and the same person which I am pretty sure is the case according to the evidence found..he was born in Sheffield in 1803 to John Debusk and Mary France who married in Rotherham Yorks in 1794.
John Debusk was baptised in Saint Martin in the Fields Westminster London 2 July 1771 and his parents were John De Busk and Sophia. This is as far as I have got. My neighbour descends from Stephens brother Thomas De Busk and she is very interested to know what happened to Stephen! So if you think all this relates to your ancester we would be interested to know what happened to him after that when he presumably called himself Lebusque.
Best wishes
Forgetful
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If it is helpful, remember that the earlier records consist of a written record of what the vicar, court usher, census enumerator heard or what they thought they heard. I would consider a LeBusque and a DeBusk to be sufficiently close to be the same person. It would of course be better to get written confirmation, but in that era unlikely.
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Hi Forgetful
I'm so happy to here from someone researching the DeBusk's in Sheffield. I'll send you a personal message.
Regards
Genni
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Hi,
I just found your question when looking for information on the children of Ellen De Busk and James Wade. I had decided that Stephen De Busk and Stephen De Busque were one and the same. My Great Grandmother was Mary Louisa De Busk. I haven't been able to find birth records for several of Thomas de Busk and Mary Ann Tagg's children and some of the records I have found also have the De Busque alternative. I believe Stephen De Busque, died in Victoria, Australia. He had quite a few children after marrying an Irish girl.
If you have any more information I'd be happy to swap notes or my tree on Ancestry is Hodgson/Sykes
Kind regards
Sue