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Title: Any ideas what Georges surname might be please?
Post by: Reyz on Friday 21 July 06 15:06 BST (UK)
Trying to work out what George H ? surname is. 
It is written on the back of a old photo of my Granddads.

It does not begin with a M, I have checked with other hand writing of his.

Thank you
Title: Re: Any ideas what Georges surname might be please?
Post by: kerryb on Friday 21 July 06 15:16 BST (UK)
Is it George Henry?

I would say it begins with an H.

Kerry  :)
Title: Re: Any ideas what Georges surname might be please?
Post by: Reyz on Friday 21 July 06 15:22 BST (UK)
Thank you   :)   for that suggestion Kerry   
I will bear it in mind


Reyz
Title: Re: Any ideas what Georges surname might be please?
Post by: mimosa on Friday 21 July 06 15:35 BST (UK)
Hi Reyz

I think it might be a P with an L after and looking at the other writing third letter an E, not much help

Mimosa
Title: Re: Any ideas what Georges surname might be please?
Post by: babsfamhis on Friday 21 July 06 15:38 BST (UK)
Hi Reyz

Could it be Flewers ?
Hope so, cos thats one of my ineterests ;D
Babs
Title: Re: Any ideas what Georges surname might be please?
Post by: Reyz on Friday 21 July 06 15:45 BST (UK)
Mimosa
You are a help just by answering and will bear that in mind too
Thank you   :)

Babs
Thank you
If your Flewers were in Canada c1905-1919 it might be?   :)

Names written on the back of one of my Granddads old Army pictures. Thought it might be nice to trace relatives.  I have sent a copy to the Canadian War Museum.

Thanks again everyone
Title: Re: Any ideas what Georges surname might be please?
Post by: babsfamhis on Friday 21 July 06 15:49 BST (UK)
Reyz

It is a shot in the dark but my gran said she had older brothers "shipped out" to canada befor she was born in 1908. I have not been able to trace them as her mother (granny Flewers) tended not to marry her partners and her children were registered under different surnames :o

Babs

Title: Re: Any ideas what Georges surname might be please?
Post by: Reyz on Friday 21 July 06 15:56 BST (UK)
Babs
Always worth a try   :D

going to attach the photo (I hope) the Regiment  :

No 2 Plan A Coy 5th Can Rfl Troops - they went to Leuze 
Granddad was born in 1889 and went back to England to live.

Reyz

back left :  Bert Osborn   -  Middle George ?  -  back right Allan Marcotte
                                        front Granddad
Title: Re: Any ideas what Georges surname might be please?
Post by: Reyz on Friday 21 July 06 15:58 BST (UK)
Oops is that too big?  Might have helped if I said which one was George  :

George is standing in the middle.

Best wishes
Reyz
Title: Re: Any ideas what Georges surname might be please?
Post by: babsfamhis on Friday 21 July 06 16:03 BST (UK)
Thanks Reyz,
Will keep it in mind!
B
Title: Re: Any ideas what Georges surname might be please?
Post by: GeoffP on Friday 21 July 06 16:19 BST (UK)
Looks to me like Plevery. It is a name which does exist. If you Google Plevery it will give some info.
                                                               Regards
                                                                         Geoff
Title: Re: Any ideas what Georges surname might be please?
Post by: Reyz on Friday 21 July 06 16:29 BST (UK)
Hi Geoff

Now you have pointed it out, it does say that !

Many thanks  :D  for your help.  Off to see what I can find.

Reyz
Title: Re: Any ideas what Georges surname might be please?
Post by: Reyz on Friday 21 July 06 23:14 BST (UK)
Me again
I have looked on the Canadian Soldiers of the 1st World War site
Granddad 's details I already have
The other two chaps in the photo I am pretty sure I have found   :)
but  a George PLEVERY is not on there..
So I think maybe it was written as it sounded?

Tried loads of variations  Palfrey  Pulver and similar no luck

Any suggestions?  Thank you.
Title: Re: Any ideas what Georges surname might be please?
Post by: Taidquest on Saturday 22 July 06 00:28 BST (UK)
how about  george  P.  levery?

or George  Hevery,
                                                   
                        anne
Title: Re: Any ideas what Georges surname might be please?
Post by: g a r on Saturday 22 July 06 00:41 BST (UK)
I don't know why, but it looks like Stevens to me.

 :-\ (Shoot me now and get it over with)  :-\

g a r
Title: Re: Any ideas what Georges surname might be please?
Post by: Taidquest on Saturday 22 July 06 01:54 BST (UK)
hi all ,is this any easier to see?
                                                 anne
Title: Re: Any ideas what Georges surname might be please?
Post by: Auntie Rotter on Saturday 22 July 06 03:24 BST (UK)
It looks like Hevers to me.
Title: Re: Any ideas what Georges surname might be please?
Post by: griz on Saturday 22 July 06 05:19 BST (UK)
 It looks like h
Hevers to me too, or Plevers  P. Levers?

I notice the writer misses fragments of letters as he writes quickly. On 'George' he drops the top of the 'g' after the 'r'. Likewise he drops part of a letter 'y'  in 'myself'. so maybe its Plevery.

 It is possible perhaps that the first stroke of the first letter could be strong because he is striking out something underneath ( that looks like the loop on a 'P') if that is the case, it could be 'Henry' but I would think as he is writing his own name he would not make a mistake.
Title: Re: Any ideas what Georges surname might be please?
Post by: PrueM on Saturday 22 July 06 07:01 BST (UK)
I thought it looked like Hevers too, at first glance. 

Prue
Title: Re: Any ideas what Georges surname might be please?
Post by: wiseowljj on Saturday 22 July 06 07:06 BST (UK)
It looks like Hevers to me.
Wiseowl.
Title: Re: Any ideas what Georges surname might be please?
Post by: kerryb on Saturday 22 July 06 07:56 BST (UK)
I still think the first letter looks like an H, so I would go with Hevers.

Kerry
Title: Re: Any ideas what Georges surname might be please?
Post by: acceber on Saturday 22 July 06 10:25 BST (UK)
Hello

Or maybe 'Havers' or 'Lavery'?

acceber
Title: Re: Any ideas what Georges surname might be please?
Post by: davierj on Saturday 22 July 06 11:41 BST (UK)
I'd go for Plevery
Cheers Dave
Title: Re: Any ideas what Georges surname might be please?
Post by: Reyz on Saturday 22 July 06 11:51 BST (UK)
Hi everyone and Apologies for not getting back on here sooner.

Many thanks    :) to  :

Anne - and for reposting the image
gar  -  you never know
Aunty Rotten
griz
Wise owl
Kerry B
acceber
and Dave
(hope that is everyone)

for taking the time to help.

My husband thinks Plevery too but I am still not sure .
I have to go out but I will check later with all your suggestions.   

Thank you all again
Reyz

Update  :  I have checked on the Canadian 'Soldiers of the 1st World War' Site.
Found a  : George Arthur HAVERS, George Francis HAVERS and a George Edward LAVERS. 
So that gives something to go on, for now ..  Thanks!   :)
Title: Re: Any ideas what Georges surname might be please?
Post by: davierj on Saturday 22 July 06 15:11 BST (UK)
Havers with a badly written s
Dave
Title: Re: Any ideas what Georges surname might be please?
Post by: Reyz on Saturday 22 July 06 20:03 BST (UK)
Thank you Dave again
Reyz
Title: Re: Any ideas what Georges surname might be please?
Post by: davierj on Saturday 22 July 06 20:11 BST (UK)
Oh I'm very fickle with my interpretation of handwriting :)
Dave
Title: Re: Any ideas what Georges surname might be please?
Post by: griz on Saturday 22 July 06 23:41 BST (UK)
I have looked again, ;D and I think another interpretation is Henery.  It might sound unlikely, Thats what I though but I went and put the name into free BMD and there were a few listings of  'George Henery'.

Do you know where he was born?
Title: Re: Any ideas what Georges surname might be please?
Post by: Reyz on Sunday 23 July 06 08:58 BST (UK)
Dave  :)  everyones suggestions look possible to me too

griz  :  Thank you for your input
I checked on the Canadian Archives soldiers of the 1st World War site again
A few HENERY's but no George
Tried HENEY no luck
There are 27 George HENRY 's 

No idea where he was born.  I 'might'   ???  have found the other two chaps in the photo. 
'If'   I have them correct
Bert Osborn was 5ft 1 and born in Farnham Surrey
and  Allan Marcotte being 5ft 5 born in Ontario Canada.
Their heights seem to fit in with the picture.

They all joined the Army at different times, so no clue there.
Granddad was born in England and has put his age as two years older than he actually was.  He is on the Canadian 1911 Census in Battleford Saskatchewan .   Worked in Prince Albert Saskatchewan as a Lumberjack for a time.   He went back to England to marry Nan.

Thanks again and if I get anywhere, I will post on here.
Reyz
Title: Re: Any ideas what Georges surname might be please?
Post by: davierj on Sunday 23 July 06 11:21 BST (UK)
Best of luck Reyz
Cheers Dave
Title: Re: Any ideas what Georges surname might be please?
Post by: Reyz on Sunday 23 July 06 15:06 BST (UK)
Thank you Dave  :)

I found Granddads demobilization papers.
He enlisted in the '8th Draft Railway Construction '
Canadian Expeditionary Force Toronto.
Served in France and Belgium.
Signed by the Issuing Office - OC No 2 District Depot Toronto

So that might turn out to be a help?  Will let you know.

Reyz
Title: Re: Any ideas what Georges surname might be please?
Post by: griz on Sunday 23 July 06 16:59 BST (UK)
Hi Reyz,   I also wish you good luck!.  :)
Title: Re: Any ideas what Georges surname might be please?
Post by: Reyz on Sunday 23 July 06 17:07 BST (UK)
Thats nice of you too Griz   :)  Thank you!

best wishes
Reyz
Title: Re: Any ideas what Georges surname might be please?
Post by: J.J. on Saturday 02 September 06 04:59 BST (UK)
Oh, bother I have racked my brain for hours with this one!...
getting this back to the top so that it can drive everyone crazy once again...
maybe try scanning in the whole back so that the handwriting can be deciphered
from more letters......
My first impression was Plervers/Plevery...but after staring at it for way too
long...I am starting to see a comma rather than a letter...  Heron,  Pleven, 
 Plevon, Hevor, Heven, ...Don't bother checking...I already tried 9 million combinations...
There are a few George Heron.
I even thought it could be Ll as a beginning...Tried all the maybes with $
Ibr$...Ile$..Pl$.....oh, yes...the mind goes... :-\

The Henery looks good if it's an "H"....If it was Henry and the "e" was added
by mistake...or he may have used his middle name...which is another possibility...

*BLINK*blink*BLINK*BLINK*blink*BLINK*  :P


Here's a funny thing, tho....Reyz... my hubby is from Prince Albert! J.J.  :D
Title: Re: Any ideas what Georges surname might be please?
Post by: liverpool annie on Saturday 02 September 06 05:37 BST (UK)


Looks like Havers to me ..... I found  these .....  ::)

http://www.rootschat.com/links/0rr/

I just want to say .... what beautiful eyes he has !!  :)

Annie  :)

Title: Re: Any ideas what Georges surname might be please?
Post by: Reyz on Saturday 02 September 06 12:25 BST (UK)
Hi JJ   :)

Many thanks for your efforts

I have a picture of Granddad working as a lumberjack in Prince Albert.

Looking at GD's  Canadian stuff yesterday and there two books of postage stamps,  2 dollars each.    On the back of one of them he had written in pencil 'Winnipeg' ....  is he trying to help me 80+ years later?

Hi Annie  :)

Many thanks too, that is great!  We have to go out soon but will have a good look later.   
I thought George was rather nice too  ;).  Have a large group picture and he is in that too.   

I made contact with two MARCOTTE researchers but they did not have an Allan.  However they are going to keep an eye out.

Thanks again Ladies

Reyz
Title: Re: Any ideas what Georges surname might be please?
Post by: Lyn S on Saturday 02 September 06 14:16 BST (UK)
Could it - with any stretch of the imagination - be 'STEVENS'?

Lyn S
Title: Re: Any ideas what Georges surname might be please?
Post by: J.J. on Saturday 02 September 06 15:59 BST (UK)
Oh, my goodness, weren't stamps about a penny back then...How many stamps are in this packet? Neat souvenir..... :D J.J.
Title: Re: Any ideas what Georges surname might be please?
Post by: Reyz on Saturday 02 September 06 20:32 BST (UK)
Lyn S  :)
Thank you for the suggestion, all worth noting.

JJ  :)
I packet has two stamps in and the other has 6 out of 12.  George V on them.

As suggested I am going to try and attach the whole of the postcard. 

Title: Re: Any ideas what Georges surname might be please?
Post by: J.J. on Saturday 02 September 06 21:41 BST (UK)
 :P  Bit small for my eyes...any chance we can get  it bigger ( higher res?)
asking to much of him? and while you're at it...just the surname as big as
possible? ::)   :P   :-\  oh he's gonna like me isn't he?

Hey, why not throw another wrench into the works and tell you I also found a Bert Osborne...  :P :P :P :P
Title: Re: Any ideas what Georges surname might be please?
Post by: Reyz on Sunday 03 September 06 00:30 BST (UK)
Seeing as you asked JJ, my husband scanned it.
He enlarged it a lot and spotted a mark above the second letter and thinks it is STEVENS   ..

Hopefully I will be able to attach it.

Reyz
Title: Re: Any ideas what Georges surname might be please?
Post by: J.J. on Sunday 03 September 06 01:06 BST (UK)
 ;D Now that's big! No complaints here...tell your hubby that that was what I saw when I darkened the smaller one and was my thought also that it might be a "t"
It's a bit of a stretch, as that looks like a "P" to me but it may well be an "s"...
( How many versions of "r" do I see? :P )

Anyhoo...tell him he's a love and did a great job! :-*

Here's another wrench into the works, though... ;D
George Steven comma...
http://data2.archives.ca/cef/gat3/115026a.gif

all the best...J.J.
Title: Re: Any ideas what Georges surname might be please?
Post by: Reyz on Sunday 03 September 06 01:17 BST (UK)
Thank you yet again JJ and I will pass your message on.

I am going to go for STEVENS    I see there are a few on the Soldiers of the 1st World War site.  Will go through them.

Thank you again  :)  to everyone who posted on this thread and a gold star to gar and Lyn S. 

If I ever find anyone I will post on here.

Reyz
Title: Re: Any ideas what Georges surname might be please?
Post by: J.J. on Sunday 03 September 06 01:19 BST (UK)
Here's a black and white version  to sit and stare at for hours ;D J.J.
Title: Re: Any ideas what Georges surname might be please?
Post by: yn9man on Tuesday 05 September 06 20:05 BST (UK)
Looks like Plevey to me. 
yn9man
Title: Re: Any ideas what Georges surname might be please?
Post by: Reyz on Tuesday 05 September 06 21:01 BST (UK)
Thanks yet again J.J.

Thank you for your input yn9man.

Looking at the black and white version it does look like PLEVEY
When its really enlarged it looks like STEVENS   ???

I will try all suggestions, though STEVENS is the favourite .. for now  :)

Reyz
Title: Re: Any ideas what Georges surname might be please?
Post by: juju9999uk on Thursday 07 September 06 23:29 BST (UK)
Possibly Hevery..
Happy Hunting
Juju
Title: Re: Any ideas what Georges surname might be please?
Post by: CarolBurns on Friday 08 September 06 00:15 BST (UK)
How about HERON or HERVY

Carol
Title: Re: Any ideas what Georges surname might be please?
Post by: CarolBurns on Friday 08 September 06 00:15 BST (UK)
I meant HEVRY not Hervy

Carol
Title: Re: Any ideas what Georges surname might be please?
Post by: juju9999uk on Saturday 09 September 06 12:01 BST (UK)
could it be George P Levers
Title: Re: Any ideas what Georges surname might be please?
Post by: newbie on Saturday 09 September 06 12:04 BST (UK)
I thought Hevery   ::)
newbie
Title: Re: Any ideas what Georges surname might be please?
Post by: yn9man on Saturday 09 September 06 16:52 BST (UK)
Spent several minutes looking at the various pictures. The more I look the more variations I see.

I don't think anyone has mentioned the following: Hesey, Heror, Herer, Hevey, Plesey, Plesery.

Good luck

yn9man

 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Any ideas what Georges surname might be please?
Post by: Reyz on Wednesday 13 September 06 17:30 BST (UK)
Hi
Apologies for not replying sooner, just got back from holiday today.

juju,  yn9man,  CarolBurns and Newbie  -  thank you for your suggestions.  They all look possible  too  :) and when I have sorted out the mess up here that Mr Nobody   :-\  has made while I was away, I will have another go at solving the mystery.

Thanks again
Reyz
Title: Re: Any ideas what Georges surname might be please?
Post by: yn9man on Thursday 14 September 06 01:21 BST (UK)
Reyz -

Hope you enjoyed your holiday. :) :) Good luck in your research and keep us posted.

yn9man