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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Bedfordshire => Topic started by: marp on Wednesday 19 July 06 07:38 BST (UK)
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I have traced my family to a Thomas Peppiatt who married Rebecca Ashton in Sharnbrook on 12 Sep 1796. The name goes through many different spellings.
Is there anyone with similar intersts in tracing the Peppiatt/Peppitt/Pettitt family or the Ashton family? Joseph Pettit moved to Pertenhall prior to 1820. The name subsequently changed to Peppitt.
Thanks, marp
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I have an Elizabeth Peppiatt Spickett b 1837 who is my lovely brick wall .With a name like that I'll forgive her.I'll dig out her file after tea and send you some info on her.
I vaguely remember there being an Elizabeth Peppiatt on the 1841 census living in either gt or Lt Brickhill an elderly lady living next door to Elizabeth 1837.
Regards
Lin
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I've got some Peppiats in Camberwell-I found some direct descendents on GenesReunited
Monique
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Thank you for the information on the Peppiatt/Peppitt family. My line begins with Thomas Peppiatt married to Rebecca Ashton in Sharnbrook in 1796. Their son Joseph Pettit (the spelling was very variable) moved to Pertenhall, Bedfordshire and married Mary Ayres in Pertenhall in January 1820. They had about 9 children and it is interesting to view the parish register of Pertenhall as the spelling of the name seems to change with each child. However the descendents of those children called themselves Peppitt.
One of the sons of Joseph and Mary was David born in 1823 in Pertenhall. He married an Elizabeth Packwood of Dean in 1848 and they moved to Chesterfield, Derbyshire. David is my gg grandfather. My branch of the family seem to stay in Derbyshire. I would be happy to share any links with Joseph Pettite and Mary Ayres, or moving back a generation that of Thomas Peppiatt.
marp
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Am interested in Peppitt family history and/or connections. My Maiden name is Peppitt.
Would like to hear from you....
We know that the name originates in the North east of France near the German Border.
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Marp
Your Thomas P [who m Rebecca ASHTON in 1796] does not appear on the 1803 Muster [National Defence] for 1803 in Sharnbrook..if he was under 55 he should be listed!
Did they raise their children elsewhere? Or had he died young? This name appears a lot in North Beds [various spellings] in the 1803 Musters [which have luckily survived for most of North Beds]
cathy
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Try:
''Pep'' or ''Pet''at Beds Archives search site?
http://blars.adlibsoft.com/beginner/indnms.html
cathy
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Cathy, thanks for the information regarding the Bedforshire archives. I searched for the name Peppitt and that came up with a list of people of that name from Pertenhall, Bedfordshire. They are, no doubt, distant relatives and descendents of Joseph Peppitt born in 1797 in Sharnbrook (son of Thomas Peppiatt and Rebecca Ashton) who married Mary Ayres in January 1820 in Pertenhall, and died there 21 November 1879.
I visited Pertenhall a few years ago and found headstones in the churchyard of my Peppitt relatives there, and also visited with an elderly lady who was a Peppitt and had some information regarding the Pertenhall branch of the family.
However, I was even more interested in the idea of checking the Muster (national defence) for certain towns. How is this done? Can it be done on-line? I have to do most of my searching on-line as I live in Australia!
Thomas Peppiatt would have been under 55 in 1803 so should have appeared on the Muster lists unless he died young.
Any further information would be much appreciated.
marp (in oz)
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Sharnbrook PR have burial of
Martha daughter of Thos Peppiat on 23 Jun 1793
& Ann daughter of Thomas PEPPIAT on June 15 1794
& of Mary Peppiat, wife of Thomas P on Apr 29 1796
& Thomas, son of Thos & Mary Peppiat on Mar 16 1797
& Thomas Peppit on 20 Jan 1800
& Richard son of Thos & Rebecca Pepit on 13 May 1800
also did you know at his marriage on 12 Sept 1796 Thomas Peppiatt was a widower
cheers John
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Here is some more info on Elizabeth Peppiatt Spickett b 1837 Little Brickhill Buckinghamshire.
As she was born before Civil records began ,I have got her brothers birth cert.
Philip born 9/9/1850 Little Brickhill , father John Spickett labourer ,mother Mary Spickett formerly Peppiatt.
So Mary was born 1814 Little Brickhill ........and from there I can find out nothing .Not sure when she married John Spickett but they had another son (William ) born in Croydon of all places ,then it would appear they went home to Buckinghamshire
Not sure if this of any help.Sorry it took me so long to order cert but ,as usual ,I've been off on a tangent.
Lin
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Thanks for the information on the Peppiatt/Peppit burials listed in the Sharnbrook PR. All these bits and pieces are very useful.
marp
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Marp'
I re looked-up all PEPs/PETs various spellings in the National Defence list 1803 - there are no Thomas's in North Bedfordshire that fit the bill[there are a couple of younger unmarried teenagers who wouldnt be yours]...
.....then I search through National Archives to see if your Thomas might be a ''regular'' soldier in the French Wars...
I had to look through all the ''Thomas's'' in Bedfordshire [WO = the Army Records] as the Army never knew how to spell place names! With no joy - so I believe your Thomas P was dead before 1803? As he would have shown up if he was alive somewhere?
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/search.asp
cathy
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Mary Ayres is part of my line and I have her married to Joseph 13 Jan 1820 in Pertenhall with 10 children.
Joseph and Thomas (twins who died shortly after birth)1820
Elisabeth 1821
David 1823
Jacob 1825 (a popular Ayres name)
Hannah 1828
Joseph 1831
Thomas 1834
Fanny 1837
Joseph 1840
I have very little on Joseph's line but lots on Mary's if your interested.
Brenda Ayres
Canada
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Hi there, we certainly have the same couple as ancestors! My ancestor is David son of Joseph Pettitt and Mary Ayres. The name changed to Peppitt. Mary Ayres parents were William Eyres and Ann Webb.
I have some material on the Ayres/Eyres/Ayers family and can track it back to a Thomas Eyers who married a Susan Collins ib 29 June 1733 in Roxton, Bedfordshire.
I would be delighted if you have more material on the Ayres. Perhaps you could send me some information.
Thanks marp
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I'm interested in the Peppiatts from Notting Hill/Kensington/Batswater & Acton area.
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I've got an Elizabeth Pettit (b.1652?) Riseley. I think her father was Thomas Pettit.
Elizabeth married Adami Sturges at Poddington 10/11/1681.
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Hello Mary Lou,
The Riseley PR have baptism on July ?? 1652 of Eliz daughter of Thomas Pettitt. There is also another one on May 19 1650 - but I could not see a burial for Eliz in Riseley between 1650 - 1652
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My info on the Elizabeth Pettit is very vague I'm afraid.It was what was passed on to me by a relative.
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I am looking for a William Petit and his wife Martha, parents of william, Thomas and John. I do not know where they may be located or any dates. Certainly Thomas was baptised in Sharnbrook.
One of their sons Thomas Peppiatt (bap. 26 august 1764 in Sharnbrook) married a Rebecca Ashton in Sharnbrook on 12 September 1796 (he was a widower).
I would love to track the Pepit, Peppitt, Peppiatt (and all the spelling variations) family but seemed to have reached the end of the line with Thomas and his wife Rebecca Ashton.
Any links or help or advice would be appreciated.
marp
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Marp, The IGI has extracted marrage at Puddington (Podington) of William Pepiat to Martha Aspole on 31 Jan 1753. Have you checked Poddington PR ?
It'll tie in with the 1756 baptism of William. Note there was also baptism of Eliz daughter of William & Mary Peppiat at Sharnbrook on 22 Dec 1758.
John
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John, thanks for this. No I have not looked at the IGI for Podington (?) but I will do so asap!! Thanks a million, this may help me dismantle this particular brick wall.
Cheers, marp
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Interestingly St Peters Church Sharnbrook records the burial of William Peppiat on 3 April 1761 at age 1, but this does not appear the parish records.
http://www.stpeterssharnbrook.org.uk/
Click on St Peters (left hand margin) & then click on Monument Index
Conversely other burials in the PR do not appear on their website
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Just to throw in two pennyworth!
I remember Lady Peppiatt whose husband I believe was a Govenor of the Bank of England in the early 60's and they lived in Beaconsfield Bucks.
I also have a Pettitte born 1920 Maidstone Kent and therefore possibly still alive,
Regards, Abiam
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John, I have now done the IGI check and found the marriage of William Peppit/Peppiat to Martha Aspole, so thank you very much for this information. I also checked the St Peter's church monument inscriptions and found William who died 30/4/1761aged one. This poses a bit of a problem for me as I have a baptismal record of a William on 10 March 1756 which would make him 5 if he died in 1761.
I suppose this could be the second child called William and the one baptised in 1756 could have died and then the second William also died.
Perhaps the most irritating aspect of all for me is that I researched a lot of this when I was first starting out on family history and I was careless with sources of information. I have learned my lesson since then! The baptismal date of 10 March 1756 could have been a Sharnbrook PR or could have been from a family bible I saw many years ago when I visited a very old lady (a Peppitt) on a trip to the Pertenhall area. I would have no idea where this bible is now.
The search continues!
Thanks again, marp
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Marp, To confirm the Sharnbrook PR does have the baptism of William son of Wm & Martha Pepiat (Pepit in the BT) on Mar 10 1756, although a note against the entry says this may be 1755 as there is difference/confusion between the PR & the BT.
In addition to the burials I listed earlier in this thread there are :-
- Aug 25 1762 Martha, wife of WM Peppit
- Jan 27 1766 Cath wife of Wm Peppiat ***
- June 11 1770 John son of Wm Peppiat
Also on June 22 1802 Wm Coles of Swineshead married Rebecca Peppiatt (although it is not noted she was a widow)
*** the IGI has marriage of William Peppiat to Cath Hall at Knotting on 11 Sept 1764
Regards John
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The Knotting PR marriage says that William Peppiat is from Sharnbrook....
He is the only Peppiat in the Knotting PR. --- by the way that isn/t Notting Hill
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I seem to remember the name Peppiat being on bank notes! Am I right or was it the Film Censor? The old mind you know!!
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wonderfull stuff this internet is ... Google straight to Ebay - here's the picture
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Wow,
We Peppitts are famous after all!!!!!???
Really interesting reading all your posts.
Have traced my Peppitt branch from North London back to Bedfordshire. But need to do a bit more work on proving the links... there are so many Williams! The name crops up all the way through to my grandfather!!!
Barbara
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Marp, Do you know the Mary that Thomas Peppiatt was married to before he married Rebecca ? I cannot see it on the IGI in Beds. Their first child William baptised in Sharnbrook in 1787. Three other children died soon after birth.
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The Poddington Parish records marriage on 31 Jan 1753 is of William Pepiat, of St Neots to Martha Aspole, of Sharnbrook.
He was the only Peppiatt entry in the Poddington PR (although lots of Pettitts), & she could be daughter of Richard & Martha Ashpole, baptised at Sharnbrook on 9 Oct 1726
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Yesterday afternoon, I found while researching another topic in Aspley Guise that on 28 April 1777 a Catherine Woodland married Samuel Pippiatt.
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Hi,
I do not seem to be able to track the first marriage of Thomas Peppiat (baptised 26 August 1764 Sharnbrook, the son of William Peppiat and Martha). He was married to someone called either Martha or Mary - or perhaps both!
His first child William Peppiat was baptised on 15 April 1787 and the Sharnbrook PR seems clear in saying he was the son of Thomas and Martha Peppiat.
Subsequent children however are the children of Thomas and Mary - they are Martha (1793), Ann (1794) and Thomas (1795) who died young.
The trouble is I cannot find a marriage to either a Martha or a Mary. A Mary Pepiat died 24 April 1796.
Thomas Peppiat then a widower later married Rebecca Ashton in 1796 and I have those details.
I am filling in some of the gaps in my Peppiat/Peppit family history thanks to all your help. However, there are still some items which seem difficult to find.
Thanks again to all of you, marp
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Yesterday afternoon, I found while researching another topic in Aspley Guise that on 28 April 1777 a Catherine Woodland married Samuel Pippiatt.
The Aspley Guise PR says Samual Peppiat was from Great Brickhill, Bucks
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I'm interested in the Peppiatts from Notting Hill/Kensington/Batswater & Acton area.
just noticed on the Northants strays marriages website
http://www.northants1841.fsnet.co.uk/northants%20strays%20m%20to%20y.html
PEPPIATT William August of Notting Hill to Martha REYNOLDS b.1864 21 Dec, Yardley Hastings, father Charles 1885 London
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The Poddington Parish records marriage on 31 Jan 1753 is of William Pepiat, of St Neots to Martha Aspole, of Sharnbrook.
He was the only Peppiatt entry in the Poddington PR (although lots of Pettitts), & she could be daughter of Richard & Martha Ashpole, baptised at Sharnbrook on 9 Oct 1726
CONFIRMED DAUGHTER OF RICHARD AND MARTHA ASHBOLT,FIRST THREE CHILDREN OF RICHARD WERE CHRISTENED HAS ASHBOLT, BUTLAST FOUR CHILDREN INC MARTHA CHRISTENED HAS ASHPOLE, RICHARD IS MY DECEDENT MY LINE COMES FROM HIM HE IS HAS FAR BACK THAT I CAN GO, HOPE JOINING THIS SITE I CAN GET EARLIER DECEDENTS.
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Hi, I am unable to trace the parents of Richard and Martha Ashbolt/Ashpole, they are as far back as I can go. I am also their descendant via the marriage of their daughter Martha to William Peppiatt/Peppit in 1753.
I would be most interested in having the names and dates of birth of all of Richard and Martha's children if you have that information. I have Robert baptised 13 Sept 1724, Sharnbrook; Martha baptised 9 october 1726, Sharnbrook; Sarah baptised 23 January 1830, Sharnbrook and Thomas baptised 14 November 1731, Sharnbrook.
cheers, marp
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Martha was a widow when she married Richard in 1716,the children 7 of them 3 have the surname of ASHBOLT (MY DIRECT LINE this being Richard born1722)the other 4 have the surname ASHPOLE,all christened at SHARNBROOK do not ask why name change possability of illiterecy or person entering the surname did not understand his accent?
ASHBOLT CHILDREN
william 21/12/1717, Mary 6/1/1719 buried 23/10/1721,Richard 16/9/1722 b26/10/1783 @Felmersham married to Sarah Swannel 29/22/1748b30/3/1790.
ASHPOLE CHILDREN
Robert 13/9/1724 b27/12/1726,Martha 9/10/1726,Sarah 23/1/1727b6/3/1730,Thomas14/11/1731.
hope this helps?
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Many thanks for this. I see that you may have the marriage date (or the year) of the marriage of Richard Ashbolt to Martha. Could you let me have this information please? (also Martha's full name).
I had reached a dead end with Richard and Martha Ashpole so any information is useful to me. I trace my ancestry back through Martha Ashpole (born 1726) who I believe married William Peppiatt on 31 January 1753.
As for spelling, well I suppose it was not standardised. For example, Peppiatt went through many changes to Peppit/ Pettit. I looked at the Sharnbrook PR and the baptism records of the 10 children in one family ranged from Pettitt/ Pettit/Peppit/Peppitt. What amazed me was the handwriting on the baptismal records was that of the same person, they were inconsistent.
Thanks again, marp
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the date i have is 3/12/1716
Martha's name was GREEN (her name has a widow do not know anything else)
however my cousin tells me we have a family crest very unusual for non Gentry it seems Richard worked for some Lord on an estate in Wales when the Lord returned to England he was given the estate!!! where he had been the Lords Estate Manager.i cannot verify this but i do have the coat of arms.
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Many thanks once again for this information. It has really helped me fill in some gaps. I think you have done wonderfully well in tracking your ancestry back as far as the early 18th century.
I was fascinated with the anecdote about the family crest!
thanks again you have been a great help
marp
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Hi 10519 Peter.
That's a most interesting snippet from your cousin about Richard ASHBOLT/ASHPOLE. I've been trying to crack his origins myself for some years and have come across several of his current day descendants who can also get no further back than Richard's marriage in Sharnbrook so it would be most enlightening if your cousin has something new to go on.
I know you say you cannot verify it but do you know your cousin's source for the Welsh story?
I'm also aware of more than one set of arms attributed to individuals with the name. Which arms have you come across?
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Hi Barbara!
I found your post from several years ago.
I wonder if we are related? My mother was Grace Alice Peppitt, and her two brothers Frank and Reginald lived in North London.
Uncle Frank had two children, Frances and Michael, and Uncle Reg one son, Terence. As you say, no more Williams!
Best wishes
Angela
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Barbara -
I've remembered a family photo (don't know where it is now). It was taken in the garden of my mother's cottage in Norfolk.
I think you must be the daughter of my cousin Terence Peppitt? You must be my second cousin!
I don't know how else to get in touch with you, but hello!
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Hi,
I am researching a right of way in Linslade,the land that the premisis on which i live,was originaly sold to a Thomas Yirrell by Henry Pettit,in 1920,s when i put in Swan Meadow,Linslade,Thomas Yirrell and Henry pettit in the search engine,it takes me to the archives where there is details of a farm owned by henry Pettit and rented out,he seems to have owned quite a bit of land around here,dont know if this is of use to you.
Joyce
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Hi Ninkyoo. John Spickett - son of William is in my family tree. I would be glad if you would make contact with me if you are still on rootschat.Thanks
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Incase this is of help to any Peppiate's. Pearsy Peppiate was married to a Sarah? Daughter Jane born 1811. She married William Ricketts born 1810 . William Pearsy Ricketts born 1831 married Mary Ann Baldwin born 1830. One of their daughters Elizabeth Jane Ricketts then marries a member of my family - Golding surname. The name Pearcy /Pearsy is still used in the next generation - William Pearsy Arnold Golding. My grandfather. Best Wishes, Whims.