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Title: John Blackwood HOWIE Sale, Victoria
Post by: nz bob on Monday 17 July 06 06:40 BST (UK)
I am looking for any information on my Gt Grandfather, John Blackwood Howie who lived in Sale, Victoria and married Margaret Jane Hutchinson there on 2nd October 1880.  I understand John was an accountant and newspaper reporter while living in Sale.  Their son [my grandfather] Alexander Hutchinson Howie was born in Sale in 1881.  Does anyone have John's work details or possibly a photo of him?  He later lived in Melbourne before emmigrating to Dunedin NZ where he died in 1905.

Any information would be gratefully received.

Bob
Title: Re: John Blackwood Howie Sale, Victoria
Post by: tropicalj on Monday 17 July 06 08:00 BST (UK)
I am looking for any information on my Gt Grandfather, John Blackwood Howie who lived in Sale, Victoria and married Margaret Jane Hutchinson there on 2nd October 1880.  I understand John was an accountant and newspaper reporter while living in Sale.  Their son [my grandfather] Alexander Hutchinson Howie was born in Sale in 1881.  Does anyone have John's work details or possibly a photo of him?  He later lived in Melbourne before emmigrating to Dunedin NZ where he died in 1905.

Any information would be gratefully received.

Bob
hello there
bob can't help with a photo or such
but it is interesting to note that on the marriage details from
the indexs  margaret jane name is BEARE
  and john blackwood is from  KILMANROCK

on alexander birth it does say hutchinson
but on the other son birth details  it reads
margaret jane beave 
this is JAMES ROBERT BLACKWOOD HOWIE  born  1885  at HO TH  reg no 26159

now margaret died in HOTH E 1885  aged 39
says parents are john hutchinson  and jemima

then he remarried in 1890 to FRANCES MYFORD  regno9106

you may have all this
but hope it helps
regards jenn

Title: Re: John Blackwood Howie Sale, Victoria
Post by: gennig on Monday 17 July 06 08:57 BST (UK)
Hi Bob
The following society may be able to help you.

Sale & District Family History Group Inc.
PO Box 773, Sale, 3850

Note: Margaret Jane HUTCHINSON bave birth to a daughter.
Ellen Beatrice born 1880 Maffra Reg no: 3542R  This child was registered under 3 surnames HUTCHINSON, BEARE & KENYON. The father is only listed against KENYON  name James.

James Robert Blackwood HOWIE married Myrtle EDWARDS (nee PEARSON) born Echuca 1911 Reg: 3569

Genni


Title: Re: John Blackwood Howie Sale, Victoria
Post by: tropicalj on Monday 17 July 06 09:29 BST (UK)
Hello there

gennie you beat me to the marriage but i didn't pick up on the daughter
how very interesting and why  three registrations for the daughter?

i will check and see if she married and under what name

regards jenn
Title: Re: John Blackwood Howie Sale, Victoria
Post by: tropicalj on Monday 17 July 06 10:36 BST (UK)
Hello there

there is a marriage for

ELLEN BEATRICE HUTCHINSON
married ALBT HY JOS  HENNETT 1901 AT bic

SHE HAS DIED IN 1969  AGED 89
FATHER UNKNOWN HUTCHINSON MOTHERS NAME UNKNOWN

ALBT HY JOS  HENNETT DIED AGED 71 1951 AT KEW

I could not find a marriage for ellen beatrice under the other names of beare or kenyon

regards jenn
Title: Re: John Blackwood Howie Sale, Victoria
Post by: tropicalj on Monday 17 July 06 10:55 BST (UK)
hello there

james robert blackwood howie(died 1949 aged 63) and ruby myrtle edwards had two children

ROSETTA LAVINA  born 1913 mitcham  24300
JAMES ROBERT BLACKWOOD  born 1916  mitcham 14207

hope this is helpfull to you

regards jenn


Title: Re: John Blackwood Howie Sale, Victoria
Post by: tropicalj on Monday 17 July 06 11:08 BST (UK)
Hello there

I have notice something odd
here in the pioneer index 1836 - 1888
alexdr hutchinson howie's birth is recorder twice once reg no 19111
then rego no 32239 withx1917 next to it

then on the great war index 1914-1920 there is the birth recorded again reg no 32239

Does anyone know why this would happen
I know  it probably has no relevance to ozbob

but I am curious  and I don't know a lot about genealogy research and would like to know why this would happen

regards jenn
Title: Re: John Blackwood Howie Sale, Victoria
Post by: gennig on Monday 17 July 06 11:54 BST (UK)
Hello there

I have notice something odd
here in the pioneer index 1836 - 1888
alexdr hutchinson howie's birth is recorder twice once reg no 19111
then rego no 32239 withx1917 next to it

then on the great war index 1914-1920 there is the birth recorded again reg no 32239


Hi Jenn

There a number of instances like this, the only explanation I can think of is that Alexander required a birth certifcate for some reason and they couldn't find the initial registration or he didn't think the birth was registered, so the birth was registered in 1917.

Cheers

Genni
Title: Re: John Blackwood Howie Sale, Victoria
Post by: gennig on Monday 17 July 06 12:08 BST (UK)
Hi Bob

John Blackwood HOWIE (born Scotland) married Frances MYFORD (born Edinburgh) 1890 Reg no: 9106

Genni
Title: Re: John Blackwood Howie Sale, Victoria
Post by: nz bob on Tuesday 18 July 06 07:16 BST (UK)
Hi Genni

Thanks for your info, I had most of John's family but don't have any work details.  I will try the Sale family history to see if they have any further info or maybe a photo.  Not likely I know but worth a try.

Bob
Title: Re: John Blackwood Howie Sale, Victoria
Post by: tropicalj on Tuesday 18 July 06 08:45 BST (UK)

hello there

if you get johns marriage certificate it will says his profession or trade on it

you can get that on line  areound 17.50 aus

regards jenn
Title: Re: John Blackwood Howie Sale, Victoria
Post by: PhilipHowieBrown on Wednesday 04 August 10 12:57 BST (UK)
Hi Bob
Alexander Hutchinson Howie is my grandfather too. I am the 4th child of his son Norman Blackwood Howie who died in Christchurch in 1956 aged 40.  My mother remarried and we took the name of Brown.  I would love to know what part of NZ you are in.
Tomorrow we will be in Sale, Victoria checking family history.  What was your father's name?
The only cousin I have met so far is Russell Howie whose father was King and they lived in Wellington.  I have the complete work record and death certificate of Alex Howie who was a sea captain for the Union Steamship Company.  Would love to make contact.
Regards
Phil
Title: Re: John Blackwood HOWIE Sale, Victoria
Post by: nz bob on Tuesday 17 August 10 23:49 BST (UK)
Hello Phil

Thanks for getting in touch.  I have sent you a personal message and hope to hear from you soon.

Cheers Bob.
Title: Re: John Blackwood HOWIE Sale, Victoria
Post by: krisesjoint on Wednesday 18 August 10 00:11 BST (UK)
Hi Phil,

Glad to see you have made a contact.  ;D

I am sorry you will be unable to reply to Bob's PM (personal message) until you have made a couple more posts so please just reply to us here. (Please do not post your email address or other personal information on the public board - we do not permit this to help protect our members from spam and other abuses) If you reply a couple more times you will be able to talk privately to Bob. Bob may have sent you his email and if that is the case you will now be in contact, but it is still a good idea to get a couple more posts on the board. Then if other members make the connection and wish to speak to you privately, they will be able to do so.

Cheers Kris  :)
Title: Re: John Blackwood HOWIE Sale, Victoria
Post by: PhilipHowieBrown on Wednesday 18 August 10 02:32 BST (UK)
Hi Bob
Sorry can't send you an individual message as I have only just joined RootsChat and apparently need a few posts before I can do this on this website.

We live in Blenheim, Marlborough, NZ  and my other siblings live in Christchurch (I grew up there as well).  We lost our Howie heritage as our Mum remarried and would not talk about it.  It seems the Howie brothers didn't make old bones!  My older brother Brian is 65 but he was known as Brown as well.

Would love to exchange information so please keep in touch.

Regards
Phil Brown (P.M. Brown)
Title: Re: John Blackwood HOWIE Sale, Victoria
Post by: nz bob on Wednesday 18 August 10 03:54 BST (UK)
Hi Phil

Thanks for your reply.  Let me know if you can receive personal messages and if so I will send you my contact details.

Cheers Bob
Title: Re: John Blackwood HOWIE Sale, Victoria
Post by: PhilipHowieBrown on Wednesday 18 August 10 07:59 BST (UK)
OK as soon as this website lets me, I will contact.
Cheers
Phil