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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Warwickshire => England => Warwickshire Lookup Requests => Topic started by: zbend61 on Saturday 15 July 06 20:03 BST (UK)
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I am trying to locate information on my stepmothers father (who she never knew and is desperate to find out about). His name was George Jones believed born in 1894 was married 26 Jan 1925 in Woolwich London to an Ada STUDD and died in Whitehouse Common Road, SUTTON COLDFIELD on 1 January 1943. The informant was a Fanny SMALL of the same address. His occupation was a fitter (Office of Works) so maybe there might be some way of finding details from that angle. His father was a Thomas George JONES but that is all we know. Maybe if someone has access to the local deaths notices in a paper that would give us some more information to go on. The death was recorded on 2 January 1943.
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Hi
Welcome to Rootschat.
You haven't started off with an easy one have you?
I have to ask why you believe he came from Warwickshire.What information do you have?
I've searched 1891 cen. but there is no George with father Thomas.You need to give all the info. you have.
Regards Jim
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Hi
Welcome to Rootschat.
You haven't started off with an easy one have you?
I have to ask why you believe he came from Warwickshire.What information do you have?
I've searched 1891 cen. but there is no George with father Thomas.You need to give all the info. you have.
Regards Jim
Did you really search the 1891 census Jim or was that just a slip of the keyboard? :)
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Hi. The reason for believing he came from Warwickshire was that my stepmother was always told "he went back to where he came from". Given that he died in Sutton Coldfield I hoped that I may be able to find his obitory which might give me a clue.
His death certificate gives no indication of where he was born and the marriage certificate placed him in Woolwich London. My stepmother was never allowed to mention her father at home so she is desperate to try and find some information.
I knew it was going to be trouble when I found out what his name was :-)
He was aged 48 when he died on 1 Jan 1943 so that gives him a year of birth of 1894 so the first census he should appear in would have been 1901.
I have tried to find out if there was a electoral roll taken in 1942 but was told one was not. If you can suggest any other course of actions that would be great.
Thanks
Ian
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Hi zbend
Do you have the marriage cert for George....and if so...can you tell me what his father did for a living?It will be on the cert.
I have found a George with a father Thomas on the 1901 census.....Thomas is in the building trade...A builders foreman carpenter.....living in the Ladywood area of Birmingham.....Also George has a middle initial..F....born about 1895
Let me know if you want details of 1901.
Good luck in your search
Indi
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Hi Again - Must say I am very impressed with this web site and service :)
George's father Thomas was described as a Warehouseman on the marriage certificate and George as a Fitter.
Is it possible that he never declared his middle initial when he married or when the death was recorded? I suppose that is possible but it is all very exciting and yes I would love the details please.
Ian
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hi ian
i find your thread very interesting,my birth grandfather was a jones,his name was william thomas jones born 1920 born b,ham and lived in ladywood
other surnames connected with this tree are sennett/vale/white
iv not carried on with the jones side of the tree yet but will be doing shortly
be great if we had a connection,but with the surname jones perhaps we will never know
i am now a jones by marriage
angie x
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Hi Ian,
Hmm...I doubt that this is your stepmoms family but I will give you the details anyway.
I would think that a Foreman (Carpenter) is a pretty prestigious job and would doubt that Thomas somehow became a warehouseman...although...you never know!
Also .....It would be odd for George to not be called by his full name (middle initial..if he had one) on his death cert.
Anyway..here they...but I have been thinking about this one and I wonder if "he went back to were he came from" could mean the Midlands in general..as opposed to London?
If so....that is quite a bit of land to cover....Warks, Staffs, Worcs, Leics, Notts....!...Yikes!
1901 Census
387 Monument Rd, Birmingham
Thomas Jones Head 41 Builders Foreman (Carpenter) Denby Abergele
Clara Jones Wife 37 Warks, Birmingham
Thomas Jones Son 16 Letterpress Printer's App Warks, Birmingham
John E. Jones Son 8 Warks, Birmingham
George F. Jones Son 6 Warks, Birmingham
Phoebe Jones Dau 3 Warks, Birmingham
RG13/2826 Folio 6 Page 4
If you leave this with me for a few days...I will go through the other Midland's counties in 1901 and see if I can find a George with a Tom dad who is a Warehouseman
No promises
Cheers
Indi
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Hello Ian
This site might help you very nice people also on this site.
Birminghamhistory.co.uk free to register
Pam
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Ian,
He could be buried in Sutton Coldfield Cemetery and his burial record could provide some more clues. This is the website:
http://www.birmingham.gov.uk/GenerateContent?CONTENT_ITEM_ID=6390&CONTENT_ITEM_TYPE=0&MENU_ID=483
What happened to his wife Ada?
Pinetree
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Pinetree
Thanks for that reference. I have asked for a search and certified copy. Just hope he is there!
It is a very complicated story this one but I do know about Ada. Ada split from George in 1933 not long after their daughter (my stepmother) was born. At the time they were living in Bexley Heath. They never divorced.
In 1943 after the death of George, Ada remarried a William Terry and went on to have another 2 daughters and a son. My Stepmother was never allowed to discuss her father so it would appear there is something exciting lurking in the background ;)
The dates all tie up with other facts so I am confident I have the right George.
My Stepmother was only ever told 'he went back to where he came from' and then we were able to find his death in Sutton Coldfield. The rest of his life and history is a mystery - at the moment!
Ada died on 21 Sept 1989 in Poole.
Research is not helped because evidently the electoral rolls were not taken in the war years :'(
Ian
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Can anyone advise me on Georges' occupation. On his death certificate he is shown as being: Fitter (Office of works). Is this probable it was for the local authority and if so is it possible that records may still exist somewhere?
Thanks
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I have now received the information from the cemetery in Sutton Coldfield. I need to find out if there is a headstone on the plot.
Unfortunately the Lady I spoke to was just standing in and has been unable to find the right plot.
Any ideas?
Ian