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Hi
Can anyone help me i am trying to trace a Thomas Millership/Millichamp/Millichoppe/Millichap b 1799 Bedworth Warwickshire to a Job (as above) and Elizabeth Leem I think he moved to Nottinghamshire and Married a Violet Burton but i am not sure if anyone as any details Please let me know as he could be a member of my family tree
Thanks Jo in Nottingham
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Hi,We have MILLICHIP-in Dudley/Tipton area,and JOB figures in the christian names.My husband's gt grandfather Richard-and others of the family,including Job-went to South Africa-to do with mining,and I am sure he has something about Bedworth in his records.Jean :o
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Hi Jeano,
I would be very interested in some details of your husband's Millichip family from the Tipton/Dudley area, and those that went to South Africa. I have been tracing the Millerchip and related spellings families from Shropshire into Bedworth/Foleshill and then on to most of the coal mining areas of the country. I have them in the Australian goldfields, but not S.A .It might help explain where some of them seem to have dissapeared to.
Cire
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Hello,my late grandfather-in-law was William Millichip,b April 1884-he was born in Langley New Town in Buckinghamshire-to Richard Parker Millichip and his wife Kate nee Holloway.Richard was born in 1860 in Dudley and Kate in 1856 in Tipton.Richard eventually went to South Africa,leaving Kate and two children-William and his younger sister also Kate b in Chelsea in 1887.Richard and Kate were married in Netherton Dudley in 1882.Richard apparently married again in S.Africa,Kate likewise in Tipton in 1898.Richard was the son of William and his wife Catherine,nee Parker,they married at Sedgeley in 1850.William was a miner at Dudley,and a Job was a Miner-Iron Stone at Dudley.
If you go to the 1881 census Uk 145 Salop St,you can see the family of William and Catherine-and the 3 year old is obviously a grandchild.Regards,Jeano
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Hi Jeano
Thanks for the e-mail. I will see if I can fit them into my scheme.
Quickly I can see I had William and Catherine from the 1851 census, before they had children, and a note I had made to suggest that he might have been the son of Job and Mary. Most of the Millership families in the Black Country area came originally from Bedworth, particularly the children of Job Millership and his second wife Elizabeth Lee. Others of the same "clan" in Shropshire became Millichamps and they also moved to the Black Country.
Thanks again
CIRE
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Hello again,if you would like to contact by e-mail-we are-spanielsminilop@aol.com
others went to South Africa too.I think Richard was a carpenter but will check with my husband.regards.Very confusing all the change of name format,but happens with most famiklies doesn't it..Jeano
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Hi,
I have millerships in the Warwickshire, Nottingham and Oldbury areas. I have a Richard Millership born abt,1793 in Bedworth married Elizabeth (sorry don't know the surname), They had children in Greasly, Nottinghamshire, one of which was Richard who married Eliza Plant in West Bromwich in 1847.
Anyone see anything familiar.
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Hi woody,Bedworth seems to figure for three of us doesn't it,they were miners,Gordon's gt grandfather Richard was a carpenter-but still seems to have been involved with mining in some way-hence him joining Job and all in S.Africa.If you want you can e-mail us-think you can see the address on cire 's one.We paid someone in S.A.to research for us.regards,Jean
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Hi Jeano and Woody, or as our daughter is over from OZ I should say g'day.
I've been looking at my notes and the only Job I have, born to a Bedworth family around 1800, is Job, the son of Richard Millerchip and Frances nee Williams. They were married in Bedworth 15/12/1793, and had 2 children Elizabeth and Richard both baptised 2/2/1800 in Bedworth. The next child was Job who was baptised in Deritend and Bordesley (Birmingham) 10/4/1803. He had been born 10/10/1802. I suppose he could have been born in Bedworth and the family moved to Birmingham before he was baptised.
Richard and Frances seem to have moved about the Birmingham/Black Country area and I have several baptisms of children of Richard and Frances under several versions of the surname spelling.
I haven't worked out who Richard's parents were. There were several Millerchip families in Bedworth in the late 1700s and all had children with similar names, but he was not one of the sons of Job Millerchip and either of the two Elizabeths (Haywod or Lee).
Does the Frances christian name crop up in your family? That would be a good pointer!
Be in touch soon
Cire (its a backward Eric)
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Hi Cire,
The name Frances doesn't appear in my family tree. I do have a Richard Millership born abt,1793 in Bedworth, Warwickshire. You mention Job Millerchip had sons and one of them was called Richard. At the moment I can go no further back than Richard Millership.
Thanks....
Mark..
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Hi Mark,
This is my interpretation .
I am certain that the Richard Millership b. Bedworth c. 1793 was the son of Job Millerchip and Elizabeth Haywood. He was baptised in Bedworth 26/5/1793. His mother Elizabeth died shortly afterwards in 1797. His father married again, this time to Elizabeth Lee in Warwick in 1799, and soon after moved to Oldbury. Some of the sons of his first marriage moved to Greasley, and at some stage Richard joined them. He married???? Elizabeth Stapleton, she was the sister of Phoebe Stapleton who married Richard's elder brother William. Richard and Elizabeth then moved back to Oldbury, to rejoin the rest of the family. We haven't been able to find a marriage of Richard and Elizabeth Stapletonaround 1820 when their family began, BUT there is a possible marriage of a Richard Millership and an Elizabeth Stapleton in the Kings Norton registration area (GRO dec quarter 1855) not long before Richard's death in 1858 in Oldbury. I haven't splashed out on a copy of the certificate but if you find anything about this marriage I would be very interested.
I note in your family interests the surname Roberts. Are you any relation to Maureen? We swapped a lot of info on the Millerships a year or two ago.
Cire
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Hi again cire,
Thats a very interesting interpretation you have. I have applied for the marriage certificate of John Millership and Rebecca Roberts, i'm trying to find out where the mispelling of millership occurred. I will soon get down to Richard Millership born 1824 in Greasly and get the marriage certificate of him and Eliza Plant who married in 1847, West Bromwich.
I'll let you know when I get that marriage certificate.
It's a pity that we couldn't get a certificate from before 1837, that would solve a few things.
I don't know if I'm any relation to maureen. As you can see above the surnname Roberts appears in my millership line.
Kind Regards
Mark.
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Cire,
I just been on familysearch.org and typed in a few possibilities. There is an Elizabeth Stapleton born 1792, Greasly who married Gervas Rowbottom in 1826 in Greasly. I looked on the West Midlands bmd site and found that marriage of Richard Millership and Elizabeth Stapleton in 1855 it was in Sandwell. But if Elizabeth married before her surname wouldn't be stapleton.
Mark...
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Hi Mark,
What I am thinking (suggesting) is that Richard and Elizabeth did not marry in Greasley for some reason in the 1820s and he didn't make "an honest woman" of her until much later (1855). I may be maligning them.
Sandwell is in the area they were living inthe 1850s.
Elizabeth was we think the daughter of Timothy Stapleton and Hannah (Wilcockson). They had daughters Elizabeth and Phoebe.(Phoebe married Richard's brother William.)
The IGI isn't terribly good for Nottinghamshire.
Richard and Elizabeth had children baptised in Greasley parish church and later in a Methodist church meeting in a schoolroom in Beaverlee or Beggarlee which is a hamlet in Greasley. I have baptisms for 6 children, Thomas,Eliza, Richard, Samuel, Timothy, & Phoebe. The baptism of Samuel gives the mother's surname.
hope this makes sense
Cire
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Hi cire,
I agree with you about Elizabeth Stapleton's parents, If Elizabeth was a witness at her son Richard's Wedding in 1847 then your theory may be right.
I think the way forward is to get certificates to connect people to each other. The marriage certificate of Richard Millership and Elizabeth Stapleton from 1855 should give their age at marriage.
Mark...
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I have received the marriage certificate of John Millership & Rebecca Roberts from 1887, Blackheath. John's father Richard Millership was a labourer at the time. He would be in his sixties so maybe to old to still be a coal miner.
The surname Millership is spelt correctly on this certificate.
The witnesses are a Thomas Millership and an Agnes Millership, these names don't appear in any notes I have at the moment, i wonder if they appear in anyone elses research.
Mark....
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Hi Woody
The family are on the 1881 census in Oldbury. Richard, the father, disabled miner, mother eliza and John & among other children a Thomas and Agnes.
Cire
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Thanks cire,
So I now need to find out how that family relates to mine.
I've noticed that family before and there is a John in there, but I think I am right in thinking that my john millership lived with the preston family at Rounds Ford, Oldbury Aged 16.
I'll work it out soon
Mark...........
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George MILLERSHIP Head M Male 40 Oldbury, Worcester, England Brewers Traveller
Lucy MILLERSHIP Wife M Female 35 Tipton, Stafford, England
George MILLERSHIP Son Male 14 Tipton, Stafford, England
Ann L. MILLERSHIP Daur Female 11 Tipton, Stafford, England Scholar
Clara MILLERSHIP Daur Female 8 Tipton, Stafford, England Scholar
Charles H. MILLERSHIP Son Male 4 Tipton, Stafford, England Scholar
Richard MILLERSHIP Son Male 2 W Bromwich, Stafford, England
Eliza A. MILLERSHIP Daur Female 11 m W Bromwich, Stafford, England
Sarah ROBERTS Step Daur Female 10 Tipton, Stafford, England Scholar
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Cire mentioned ROBERTS family - they lived with the MILLERSHIPS according to FamilySearch.org in Richard Street South in West Bromwich, Staffordshire (as it was then). My great great grandfather was RICHARD MILLERSHIP born 8th June 1878 and died 22 January 1906 - as the result of falling off a high roof or something and landing on a man and killing them both. He was a bricklayer/steeplejack. His daughter was AMY MILLERSHIP who married JOHN (JACK) MAKIN and he died in a railway accident along with a Mr CROPPER at West Bromwich in about 1928. If anyone has any of these in their family I would love to hear from you. My mother is STELLA who was AMY'S daughter.
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Hi Blancsanglier,
That family that you list from 1881 are on my tree but i'm afraid i can't give any other info than i think you may already know.
George Millership b.1841 married Lucy Fisher b.1846, they married in Tipton in 1866.
I am descended from George's (1841) older brother Richard b.1828 who married Eliza Oliver.
I can't unravel the step-children though, it seems Lucy married someone with the surname Roberts. The ages of the Millership children are making it difficult. Perhaps the marriage to Lucy was later than i thought.
It is strange how your family are also connected to the Roberts family as mine is also. My Great-Grandfather John H Millership married Rebecca Roberts in 1887 in Rowley Regis. In 1891 Rebecca's sister Maria married her brother in law Richard b.1874.
If i can help further please let me know.
Mark
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Spooky really as the Richard (aged 2 on the list) his daughter AMY MILLERSHIP married a KEITH ROBERTS in 1939 :o Wonder if she knew him from the Roberts step children? Seems to be a lot of Millership/Roberts connections? ???
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I was in contact with someone on Genes Reunited who had an extensive Roberts family tree, i've just gone back to look and he has deleted all of his relations.
I'll let you know what else i find.
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Lucy FISHER b 1848 Tipton, Stafford
died 09 JAN 1921
Husband: George MILLERSHIP m cir 1866
Is this what you already know?
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Hi,
Yes i already knew that, but from the 1881 census it appears Lucy was born in 1846.
It must be where i got the marriage details from.
Do you have the birth certificate for Richard Millership born 1878, i just wondered who the parents were?
It is very odd because you have:
George Millership b.1867 Tipton
Ann L Millership b.1870 Tipton
Sarah Roberts b.1871 Tipton Step Daughter
Clara Millership b.1873 Tipton
Thomas Roberts b.1875 Tipton Step Son
Charles Millership b.1877 Tipton
Richard Millership b.1878 W Bromwich
Eliza Millership b.1880 W Bromwich
Clara seems to be daughter of both George and Lucy, yet the children born shortly before and after are step children of George's.
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I have now found that Thomas Roberts married Lucy Fisher at Tipton in 1867.
That 1866 marriage on familysearch.org must be wrong.
The only marriage for George i can find is to Emma Swain in 1869 in Dudley.
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I have not been able to find a marriage for George Millership and Lucy Roberts or Fisher, they were together until at least 1901 and had at least 9 children together, so I might be maligning them.
George Millership was first married to Eliza Griffiths in Rowley Regis on 2/9/1861. The couple had three children George, Anna Louise and Clara. There is a death for an Eliza Millership in Dec Qtr 1874, aged 32 which seems to be George's wife.
Then about 1876 or so he cohabited with Lucy Roberts (nee Fisher) the widow of Thomas Roberts, and they were both still alive at the time of the 1901 census. Two of Lucy's children, Sarah and Thomas Roberts were living with them in 1881, and Thomas was still with them in 1891.
eric
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Thats very interesting cire,
I couldn't find the George & Eliza marriage at all!!
What you say i'm sure will help blancsanglier..
Off to look/change my tree!! ;)
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The entry for the marriage of George and Eliza in the IGI gives their ages as 20 and 19 respectively. This agrees closely with the ages for George and Eliza Millership in the 1871 census.
It is rather unusual that there was such a gap in time between the marriage and the birth of the forst recorded child!!!!
The IGI entry for the marriage gives George's father's name as John!!!!!which I am sure is an error.
Eric
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Not sure if it is any help to you but a couple of miles from Bedworth is a small coal mining hamlet on the edge of Nuneaton called Bermuda and there have been Millerchips there from the 1800s to my knowledge, in fact I know one or two of them, at one time the football team had four of that name in the team.
Bermuda was named because the local landowner, one of the Newdigates, was Governor of Bermuda in the West Indies, the houses were built for the miners who worked in the Newdigate pits.
Bermuda came under Chilvers Coton and there are three Millerchips listed in the memorials there.
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Thanks for the reply.
I had a lot of relatives in the Foleshill/Bedworth area but I had not heard of Bermuda. From the map it looks as though it is now a small industrial estate.
There were quite a few Millerchips in the Bedworth/Foleshill area from the mid 1700s, when several brothers moved there from Broseley in Shropshire. They were nearly always specialist miners and wherever new mines were opened the Millerchips were there, the Black Country, Nottinghamshire and Durham.
Most of the families had left Bedworth before 1841.
Eric
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Eric, I can assure you that the 'village' is still there, actually it is just one street with a club but has always had a reputation for sporting prowess which continues to this day and there is still a football club with a fine ground behind the houses.
These days the whole is owned by (I think) Deeleys who were/are an opencast mining company, they modernised all the houses etc some years ago.
One of the Millerchips was in recent years on the books of Manchester United.
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Hi Mark
I've been looking at George Millership and have found that he married Eliza Griffiths on 2 September 1861 at Tipton, I took a photograph of the marriage certificate at the Sandwell records office. If you got the marriage to Lucy Fisher in 1866 from IGI I have also seen that and I believe it is wrong. Eliza died in 1874.
Lucy Fisher married Thomas Roberts in Q3 1867 at Dudley (registration district for Tipton) and he either died or divorced after birth of third child in 1875.
I cannot find a marriage for George and Lucy but they are together from the 1881 census. The names, ages and birth places of all the children from both marriages tally so I believe that I have the correct people.
Dave
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Hi Mark
I've been looking at George Millership and have found that he married Eliza Griffiths on 2 September 1861 at Tipton, I took a photograph of the marriage certificate at the Sandwell records office. If you got the marriage to Lucy Fisher in 1866 from IGI I have also seen that and I believe it is wrong. Eliza died in 1874.
Lucy Fisher married Thomas Roberts in Q3 1867 at Dudley (registration district for Tipton) and he either died or divorced after birth of third child in 1875.
I cannot find a marriage for George and Lucy but they are together from the 1881 census. The names, ages and birth places of all the children from both marriages tally so I believe that I have the correct people.
Dave
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Hi Cire,
You mention in your discussion about a Richard Millerchip/Millership being the son of Job Millerchip/Millership and Elizabeth Haywood (Job later marrying Elizabeth Lee after the first one dies).
Job and Elizabeth Haywood are my 5x g-grandparents, via their son William and his wife Phoebe Stapleton, their son Job and wife Eliza Carrington, son William and wife Sarah Ann Simpson, daughter Mary and husband William Wood, daughter Doreen and husband Fred Smith (nightmare name!!) and my mum Margaret!
I have lots of Millership/Millerchip names on my family tree, but I'm not entirely certain that I haven't somehow got two different branches of the family entwined!
Regards x
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Hi
Thanks for the message.
My notes show the same line from Job and Elizabeth Hayward to William and Mary Ann Simpson. That is as far as I went.
I have a lot of notes on the Millerships in Nottinghamshire, mainly culled from the censuses and parish registers and from other contacts.
If you let me know where you think you might have two branches intertwined!! I will see if I can help. I think virtually all of the families in Nottinghamshire are descendants of Job and Elizabeth Hayward
Some of the Millerships from Nottinghamshire later moved to the Oldbury area, to join the offspring of Job and Elizabeth Lee, including Richard Millership, Job's brother who married Elizabeth Stapleton, Phoebe's sister. It seems likely that Richard and Elizabeth had children from 1818 to 1832 but didn't get married until 1855.
regards
Eric (cire backwards!!!!!)
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Hi Eric,
Now you've said that some of the Nottinghamshire Millerships went to Oldbury, I think maybe my tree is right....it was after talking to other people on Genes Reunited about Millerships that I began to wonder - plus the name changes don't help!! :)
You state in your last post that you went as far as William and MARY Ann Simpson - it was actually Sarah Ann. I have a lovely photo featuring her (at the ripe old age of 93ish!!) with her daughter Mary Louisa, HER daughter Doreen (my nana) and HER baby daughter, my aunty Cynthia.
Aunty Cyn was born in 1938, and Sarah Ann died in 1939 - so it's nice to see the four generations on one photo - I really treasure it.
If there's anything you want to know about the later Millerships, I might be able to help ;D
Regards,
Angi
xx
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I am related to Job Millichip b. about 1801.He was my gt.grandfather x4.He was born in Bedworth, and was an irin stone miner. Does anyone have any info on this person and family, or is related to him. Thanks
Kevin
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Hello Kevin,
The Millerchips & variants are part of my wife's family.
On 15 Dec 1793 a Richard Millerchip married Frances Williams in Bedworth. On 2 Feb 1800, Elizabeth and Richard Millerchip were baptised in Bedworth. I'm not sure whether these were twins or whether they were born at different times and were just baptised on the same day. That is the last I have found on Richard, Frances and family in Bedworth ---- BUT on the 10 April 1803 a Job Millerchip, parents Richard and Frances Millerchip was baptised in Deritend and Bordesley (now part of Birmingham) The entry in Family Search says Job was born on 10 Oct 1802. I'm sure this is the same family. I presume the family moved between his birth in Bedworth and baptism in Deritend.
I'll have a look back through my notes to see if I ever decided who were Richard's parents. There were several related Millerchip familiesc in the Bedworth area and they all used the same christian names!!!!!!
Eric
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Does anyone have any evidence regarding the parents of Richard Millership born around 1809 in Oldbury. He married Emma Smallman in 1834. I found a genealogy file on Family search giving his baptism on 3 September 1809 with parents John Millership & Elizabeth Lee. Obviously there was no evidence attached to verify this & I can't find that baptism on Family Search. Please help!
Dave
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Hi Dave
The Richard M************ip !!!!!! you mentioned with baptism 3 Sept 1809 in Oldbury is under the name Milwardship!!!!!! with parents John & Elizabeth. It's some time since I looked at the Millerships but I'm fairly sure that I had decided that his parents should have been Job Millership and Elizabeth Lee.
I'll send more later. You would have got this last night but we had several "power outages"!!!!!
Eric
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Hi Eric
Thank you for that. Try as I may I could not find that record even with the numerous spellings I tried. Any further that you have would also be gratefully appreciated.
Regards
Dave
ps A happy New Year to you & yours.
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Hi Dave
They really are a fascinating family and puzzle many people.
I think what happened is that after Job married Elizabeth Lee, the first two sons were baptised with parents Job and Elizabeth. Then I suspect that there was a change of church minister or parish clerk who might have been a bit hard of hearing and got the surname and Job's Christian name wrong and so the other children were baptised as children of John Millwardship!!!!.
One other interesting thing about Job is that after his first wife, Elizabeth Haywood died in 1797, there are, in the Bedworth register, banns read for a marriages between a Job Mellowchip and Sarah Jeakes (Jaques was a well known Bedworth name) on 27 May and 3 & 10 June 1798, But there is no marriage recorded!!!!!! Then in the next year on 2 May 1799, Job married Elizabeth Lee In Warwick.
Why Warwick???????? The Warwick register says Job was of the Parish of Warwick St Mary and Elizabeth a widow of Bedworth!!!!!! and they "emigrated" to Oldbury. STRANGE!!!
Have a good New Year
Eric
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Hi Eric
Having looked at the record for Richard's birth it would appear that his parents are indeed John & Elizabeth Millership, recorded as Milwardship as you point out, however I can't reconcile them as Job & Elizabeth Lee. As you say Job & Elizabeth married in 1799 in Warwick, she from Bedworth & he from Warwick. For them to then move to Oldbury is indeed a possibility. What I find strange though is that after Thomas in 1800 there were no more children for 9 years then Richard 1809, Agnes 1811 & Sarah 1815 all born in Oldbury.
Thomas's parents are given as Job & Elizabeth Millichip & they were married as Job & Elizabeth Millerchip.
All 3 of the other children were baptised as Milwar(d)ship with parents John & Elizabeth.
I have found another marriage for a John Milliship & Elizabeth Barker in Edgbaston on 17 April 1808 & feel that this ties in better with the 3 later births but that is all, it "ties in better".
When you say that the Millerships are a fascinating family & puzzle many people they certainly puzzle me. I believe I have found the parents christian names now thanks to your help but am far from certain of who they actually were & therefore their own parents. What are your thoughts on the spanner I have just thrown in the works?
Regards
Dave
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Hi Dave
Sorry for the delay in answering the last post.
I have a George Millership son of Job and Elizabeth baptised on 18 July 1803 which fills in a bit of the gap in the births. Knowing the Millerships, they probably had a spell away from Oldbury, where there were some new coal mines being opened. There are a couple in Bedworth that had children in Bedworth and then the next 2 in Co.Durham and the next ones back in Bedworth.
My thoughts about the church minister or parish clerk getting the Millership/Millwardship names mixed up are supported by another couple's children. Thomas and Mary Millwardship had children baptised in Oldbury parish church, about the same time, but when 2 of them died and were buried in the nonconformist cemetery, they are recorded as Millership.
Why was Job said to be of the Parish of Warwick St Mary when he married Elizabeth Lee?????
The only occasion in my Warwickshire research when someone unexpectedly turned up as being "of Warwick" was because he was in prison there, having been arrested for ill treating his wife!!!!
Will keep in touch if I turn up anything else!!!!!
Eric
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Hello to all....I know this thread started a while ago but I have recently started my family tree and have traced back to Job Millerchip and Elizabeth Haywood (who are my 6x great-grandparents). As mentioned in previous replies, I came unstuck and found the records confusing. I then came across rootschat and found your conversations, which made very interesting reading. I don't suppose any further progress has been made at all has it please?
Thank you and Regards
E. :)
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Hi "E"
Welcome to RootsChat. Sorry for the delay in answering your message.
I haven't done much on the Millerchips for some time now. I think I had sorted out the Millerchips in my wife's family. They are a fascinating clan, with as much social history as family history.
The Job married to Elizabeth Haywood was the son of Thomas Millichoppe and Ann Banks who were married in Broseley now part of Ironbridge in Shropshire on 9 Nov. 1741. At some stage Thomas and 2 of his brothers moved from Broseley to the Bedworth area. They were specialist miners in the Severn Valley and moved to North Warwickshire when the mines there were being developed.
The following is a bit I wrote some time ago about the early Millichoppes/ Millichaps etc. which you may find interesting.
'The Millerships originated in the hamlet of Millichoppe (appears on modern maps as Middle Hope) on the side of Clee Hill in Shropshire. They were frequent in the parishes of Clee St Margaret and Abdon. The earliest spellings are Millichoppe, Millichop and Millichap. In the 1600s a John Millichap moved to Broseley (now part of Ironbridge) and married Newall Benbow. Broseley at that time was "silicone valley" the heart of the Industrial Revolution. The Millichaps were miners in the Severn Gorge. After a couple of generations three brothers moved to Bedworth and Foleshill in Warwickshire as miners. Here the name changed over a couple of generations from Millichap to Millerchip. This was the mid 1700s. As more coal mining areas were opened up some of the Millerchips moved into the Black Country around Oldbury and to Greasley and before long up to County Durham. Just to confuse things further, some of the Millichaps in Shropshire names changed to Millichamp and some of them also went into the Black Country, so you get both Millerships and Millichamps there who were probably related a few generations earlier. When they went to Oldbury and Greasley the name changed to Millership.'-----They are even transcribed on the 1841 census as 'Milordship'!
Did your Millerchips stay in North Warwickshire or were they ones that moved to the Black Country or Nottinghamshire??
Hope you find this useful.
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Hi Cire, thankyou for your reply - it's given me information that I can follow up on. My 'Millerchamps' stayed in the Bedworth area and I still have relatives there now (I now live in Lancashire). Many thanks, E.
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Hello,
I hope that you don't mind me adding to this thread but I have found I too am related to the Millerchips/champs and the certainly are quite puzzling!! I found your research on what they did and where they went fascinating.
I am related to Ann Millerchip who married Samuel Lane in 1819 in Wolverhampton. The 1851 census shows her pob as Bedworth and year of birth around 1796 (also 1796 in 1861 census) which fits with Ann Millerchip baptised to Richard and Elizabeth.
I have read the Bedworth PR and think Elizabeth was née Barkb(e)y.
The only trouble is the father Richard could be Richard baptised 1753 to Thomas and Ann or 1763 to Richard and Elizabeth or 1765 to Job and Elizabeth.
Are these the brothers that you mentioned please?
William Millechamp Millencheap who married Mary and had John 1745, Sarah 1754 and William 1751 could be a 4th brother?
The possible first entry in Bedworth that I could find was John and Elizabeth that had Mary Mallowship 1737 Bedworth and then Elizabeth Millcheap Foleshill and John Millencheap 1739 Foleshill.
Job and Richard are unusual in the rest of my tree and I was excited thinking at last an unusual name will make it easier to find to find people (not in the Millerchips!!!!!).
Anyway I have really enjoyed reading this thread, it is nice to meet fellow descendents and if I find any info on Richard's parentage from the poor law docs I plan to look at, I will let you know.
Best wishes Emma
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You are very welcome. A fuller reply will follow, I'mm very tied up at present. The three brothers are the ones I mentioned. Over 20000 looks at this line. I can go back a couple of generations, to a John Millichap and Noel Benbow. And there is the story about a Millerchip and the altar cloth and the Morris men. Will be in touch soon. Eric
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You are very welcome. A fuller reply will follow, I'mm very tied up at present. The three brothers are the ones I mentioned. Over 20000 looks at this line. I can go back a couple of generations, to a John Millichap and Noel Benbow. And there is the story about a Millerchip and the altar cloth and the Morris men. Will be in touch soon. Eric
Dear Eric,
Thank you so much for getting in touch with me, I really appreciate it. Noel Benbow is a very unusual name, given the families county hopping it must have been really hard to piece it all together. I have really struggled due to the spelling variations. I am very intrigued by the altar cloth and Morris men!!
Hope you are having a good weekend.
Best wishes
Emma
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Hello Emma, sorry for the delay in answering. It’s over 10 years since I did a lot of work on the Millerchips. They really are interesting and difficult both from the family history but also on social history.
Looking at my old notes it does appear that I had decided there were the 4 brothers. They were 4 of the children of William Millichope and Sarah Rogers who lived in Broseley (Ironbridge area)
The Richard born to Thomas & Ann in 1753 died in 1754, but they had another Richard in 1759!!
Have you seen the webpage Genealogy.com? There are quite a lot of Millerchip entries, Mainly of some correspondence I had 10 or 12 years ago. The entries are still there but I’m not sure whether the site is sdtill active.
Hope this helps I will send some more .later,
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Hi,
Thank you very much for getting back to me, I will look at the website you suggested, thank you.
It is really strange that so many of my family lines in Warwickshire and Staffordshire go back to Shropshire where I now have no current family so hadn't thought to look there.
I hope you don't mind me asking but I just wondered how you eliminated the Richard born to Job and the Richard born to Richard from your line and decided that Richard born to Thomas was the one who married Elizabeth Barkby please. I really want to get back further in my tree but am not sure which Richard married her and feel like I am missing something as so many trees on ancestry have Richard born to Thomas as the one marrying Elizabeth Barkby but I can't see where the other 2 Richards were excluded (one married a Francis and the other Caroline or Catherine, I can't remember which), all 3 Richards were of marriageable age at the time Elizabeth married one of them. It is driving me crazy!!!!!
Mind you if the 3 Richards were born to brothers then they will all have the same grandparents so I guess it doesn't matter too much!!!
Thanks again for keeping in touch, I really appreciate it. Have a great weekend :)
Best wishes Em
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Hi Em Sorry to have been so long replying. My wife is not very well so I have had to do al the washing up and ironing!!!!!!!! Did you look at the web page I mentioned? Is Linda Griffin a close relative???
Not really made much progress on Richard. The dates of the possible Richards are baptism dates, so could be a year or two later than birth dates!!!!!