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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Antrim => Topic started by: surlie on Tuesday 11 July 06 20:45 BST (UK)
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Modesto Silo born in Lemna Italy on November 1, 1803 immigrated in 1817. I am trying to find out if this is the same person who married Mary Jane Luigi or Louis likely in the Belfast area some time in the 1820's. The first child of the couple could be George Louis Silo who was born circa 1830.
Any help located a record of marriage for either Modesto or Mary Jane or birth record for George would be appreciated! :D
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Hello.
The Griffiths Valuation Index has the following record for Modesto:
County: Antrim
Parish: Shankill
Location: Cromac Townparks
Address: Upper Arthur Street
Comments: and Sons
The comments noted are used as a means of distinguishing this individual from others with similar names. Comments vary widely and may include: the name of an ancestor (typically father or mother), the individual's occupation or family trade, the name of the family dwelling, skills associated with the individual, religious affiliation, as well as physical or moral characteristics of his or her ancestors.
In some instances the comments indicate joint ownership of the property with other individuals. Joint ownership is indicated by the word "and" either followed by a generic reference to other individuals, or separating the names of the joint owners.
The Civil Registration has the following references that may be your SILO
ancestors, let me know if you want the details.
Mike.
SILO, Mary Bir 1868 Irel Antr
Fa: Henry SILO
Mo: Margaret FREEL
SILO, Francis Joseph Bir 1872 Irel Antr
Fa: Henry SILO
Mo: Margaret FREEL
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SILO, Eugenie Bir 1870 Irel Galw
Fa: George Louis SILO
Mo: Elizabeth LIDDLE
SILO, Rosa Bir 1872 Irel Galw
Fa: George Luis SILO
Mo: Elizabeth LIDDLE
SILO, Rose Bir 1875 Irel Galw
Fa: George Louis SILO
Mo: Lizzie LIDDLE
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SILO, Mark O Henry Bir 1870 Irel Antr
Fa: Henry SILO
Mo: Margaret FRAZER
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SILO, Lucy Eveline Bir 1872 Irel Antr
Fa: Carlo SILO
Mo: Minnie BURKE
SILO, Mary Jane Bir 1870 Irel Antr
Fa: Carlo SILO
Mo: Mary Josephine BURKE
SILO, Frances Kate Bir 1874 Irel Antr
Fa: Carlo SILO
Mo: Minnie BURK
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This is the information I have found on the Silo family in N Ireland, there were two brothers Andrew and Modesto who emigrated to Ireland from Italy, first record I have of is Andrew in 1826. Could you send sources of Modesto birth and ship that he used to come to Ireland in 1817? Do you know when Andrew his brother was born?
Yours John Rogers
SILO, Andrew, Carver, Gilder, and Looking Glass Seller, 17 Cornmarket, 1826-1836. 27 Castle-street, Belfast 1837-1842. Ferry-quay, Londonderry 1845-1846. It is probable that the Silo family emigrated from Italy via England to Northern Ireland in the late 1820s. The family is first mentioned in the Manchester Trade Directories from the early 1800s; Sillo and Co, Carver, Gilder, Picture Frame Makers, 15 High-street, Manchester 1799-1802 (Dictionary of English Furniture Makers 1660-1840, pp 814). Crown court Yesterday. Catherine Mulholland for uttering a base 2s 6d. to Andrew Silo, at Belfast, on the 17th Feb last-Guilty (BN-L 1830, 30th March). Six years later A Silo advertised in the Belfast News-Letter: Andrew Silo, Carver and Gilder, Manufacturer of Looking Glasses, and Picture Frames. Begs leave to imtimate to his friends and the Public, that he has removed from his place of business from Corn-market to No 27 Castle-street, (Mr Napper New Building), where he will continue to supply with chimney, mirror, pier and toilet glasses. A.S. returns his sincere thanks for the liberal support which he has experienced during his last nine years, and hopes, by attention to business, and keeping only the best materials, to merit a continuance of public patronage. Belfast 31st December 1835 (BN-L 1836, 5th Jan). Silo voted in one Belfast City election in the 1830s on 5th August 1837 for two seats: Earl of Belfast and James Gibson (PRONI D/2472/1).
SILO, Modesto Snr, Carver, Gilder and Looking Glass Seller, 21 Cornmarket, 1831-1846. 11 Arthur-square and 25 Gloucester-street 1850-1852. 6 Donegall-place 1855-1856. 43 Upper Arthur-street, Belfast 1860-1862 (in partnership with Modesto Silo Jnr). He registered to vote for Belfast City elections in Jan 1837 (PRONI D/2472/1). Modesto and Andrew Silo were empanelled to Jury Duty in a Case concerning a Guiseppe Corsini, who was indicted for stealing 12 handkerchiefs (BN-L, 1837, 31st October). From Feb to May 1840 he worked on the gilding the tabernacle at the Catholic church of Ballymacarrett (BN-L, 1840 15th May). Six years later he advertised in the Belfast New-Letter: Arrival of Good From Paris. Modesto Silo. Begs leave respectfully to announce to the nobility, gentry, and inhabitances of Belfast and vicinity that he has received a large stock of Louis the XIV frames, so celebrated for their beauty of design and pattern, from the House of Bourquin and Co, Boulevard, Bonne Nouvelle, Paris. He begs an early inspection when he has no doubt they will meet the approbation of the public. M.S. have engaged, at great expense person from one of the first establishments in London, in the picture cleaning, lining, and restoring department, gentlemen wishing their galleries restored, will be waited upon in town and country. Carving and gilding, in all its branches; Looking glasses, room boarding, barometers, thermometers, etc. Masks as usual. 21 Cormarket (BN-L 1846, 29th May).
SILO, Modesto Jnr, Carver, Gilder, Cabinet Maker and Upholsterer, 43 Upper Arthur-street, 1860-1862 (in partnership with Modesto Silo Snr as a Carver and Gilder). 51 Arthur-street, 1870-1871. 29 York-street, Belfast 1880-1883. Belfast and North of Ireland Workmen’s Exhition. Distibution of Prizes. Section V Household Furniture and Upholstery. 1st Class Medal-Mr Modesto Silo Jnr, Octagonal inlaid Loo table, in fancy wood, containing in top 1,600 pieces (BN-L 1870, 30th May). In the County of Antrim County Court Equity Sale. Robert Carwell and William Wilson, of Belfast in the County of Antrim, Merchants, trading under the style and frim of “Wilson, Caswell and Company,” plantiffs. Modesto Silo, of 29 York-street, Belfast in the Country of Antrim, Gentleman, administrator of Modesto Silo, Jnr, late of Belfast aforesaid, Upholsterer, deceased, defendant. To be sold by public auction on Tuesday the 21st day of August 1883, at the hour of eleven o’clock in the morning, at the at the mart, Rose-street. The stock-in-trade of Modesto Silo Jnr, deceased, including superior drawing rooms, dining-rooms, and bedrooms-room suites, pictures, vases, ornaments, boats compasses, etc. Also on the premises, 28 York-street, at three o’clock afternoon of the same day. Mahogany, Oak, and pitch Pine scantling; Mahogany veneer, planks and veneers, Mahogany chair rails and blocks, sundry brass castings and fittings, tow benches, large quantity of first class white-mouldings, and other miscellaneous effects. Terms Cash and 5 percent commission. H. C Clarke Auctioneer. (BN-L 1883, 9th August).
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Hi John - I picked up your response from the Italian site as well - thanks for your diligence!!!
I received information from a distant cousin who still lives in the Lemna region of Italy that Andrea Domenico Silo was born Feb. 20, 1792 and Modesto Santino Silo was born November 1, 1803. They had a sister Maria who did not immigrate with them. It is not known how they travelled to Ireland.
I am planning a trip to Belfast in July and would like to be able to track down the graves of Modesto Sr who passed away January 14, 1892 and his son, George Louis Silo passed away December 20, 1899. I thought to check online newspapers for obituaries around those dates but can't find access to the archives - do you have a link for the Belfast Newsletter that you might be able to send me? Or do you have any other ideas? I'd like to do as much research from here in Ontario as possible.
Thanks again for all the information above. I will take it to show my mother (a born Silo and 85 years old!).
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You have done well so far, hopefully heres some bits that might be fresh to you
Silo records exist at several places
start with North of Ireland Family History Society and its NIFHS Genealogy Search Engine
heres a few extracts
View Will | Public Record Office of Northern IrelandThe Will of Carlo Gally Silo late of High-street Belfast Hotel Keeper deceased who died 21 April 1881 at same place was proved at Belfast by Mary Josephine ...
www.proni.gov.uk/view_Will.htm?willId=25424&strReturn=listWill.asp?nListType=1&strOrder=Id&nPage=2543
View Will | Public Record Office of Northern IrelandLetters of Administration of the personal estate of Modesto Silo (Junior) late of 29 York-street Belfast Upholsterer deceased who died 6 March 1883 at same ...
www.proni.gov.uk/view_Will.htm?willId=28824&strReturn=listWill.asp?nListType=1&strOrder=Id&nPage=2883
List Will | Public Record Office of Northern Ireland25424, Carlo Gally, Silo, 21/04/1881, 27/05/1881, under £600, The Will of Carlo Gally Silo l... 25589, James, Anderson, 21/04/1881, 22/02/1882 ...
www.proni.gov.uk/listWill.asp?nListType=1&strOrder=Death&nPage=894
Griffiths Valuation of Ireland - Shankill, County Antrim... Silly Thomas Dock Townparks Great George's Street Shankill Antrim Silo Modesto Cromac Townparks Upper Arthur Street Shankill Antrim Simmington Susannah ...
www.failteromhat.com/griffiths/antrim/shankill4.htm
List Will | Public Record Office of Northern Ireland25424, Carlo Gally, Silo, 21/04/1881, 27/05/1881, under £600, The Will of Carlo Gally Silo l... 25425, Mary Ann, Simon, 11/01/1881, 02/03/1881, under £300 ...
www.proni.gov.uk/listWill.asp?nListType=1&strOrder=Id&nPage=2543
[PDF] BELFAST, U'Cftorp. BELFAST, &c.File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML
Silo ModesK), carver, gilder & looking-glass, barometer and thermometer mamifacMirer, 21 Corn market. Similis ft M'lntyre, booksdle's, publishers, printers ...
www.failteromhat.com/slater/0155.pdf
List Will | Public Record Office of Northern Ireland25424, Carlo Gally, Silo, 21/04/1881, 27/05/1881, under £600, The Will of Carlo Gally Silo l... 3490, Caroline, Irwin, 23/11/1861, 17/01/1862, under £2000 ...
www.proni.gov.uk/listWill.asp?nListType=1&strOrder=Forename&nPage=1359
[PDF] BELFAST, See. 3L jHater'*File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML
Silo Modesto (and looking glass manufacturer),21 G;ru market. CHINA, CLASS * EARTHEN-. WARE DEALERS. Caulfield George, 135 North st. Davis William & Co. ...
www.failteromhat.com/slater/0158.pdf
etc
Next try a fee paying website www.ancestryireland.com/ for over 60 records
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Thanks very much BallyaltikilliganG!!! I used those paths and found a lot of helpful information - some free and some paid. It helped fill some holes.
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To access the Belfast New-Letter I have to go the National Library of Ireland and access their computers. I go to website; http://www.bl.uk/reshelp/findhelprestype/news/newspdigproj/ndproject/ (The 19th Century British Library Newspaper website, managed by Gale Cengage, was launched on 22 October 2007, with 1,000,000 pages of content).
Yours John
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I was thrilled to read about Carlo Silo who was my great grandfather. What was the name of the hotel he owned in Belfast? His daughter was my grandmother Lucie Evelin Burke (nee Silo) and my father was called Carlo Gallee after his maternal grandfather. My father was the youngest of eight and was born and bred in Holywood Co Down. I would like to know if there is a Jasper Silo and a Frank Silo. We also have vague info on a French connection Lucy Lefevre born 1864 died 1943. My father remembered this great aunt very well.
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There's a birth (1876) for Jasper Joseph Silo and marrage (1920) for Jasper Silo.
See index to civil registrations for full details and to search for others-
http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=collectionDetails;t=searchable;c=1408347
IGI (www.familysearch.org) lists birth- Jasper Joseph Silo born 2 Feb.1876 Belfast district, son of Carlo and Mary Josephin Burke (daughter Mary Jane born 1870 also).
There's Will Extracts from PRONI (think they've been mentioned before)-
www.proni.gov.uk/index/search_the_archives/will_calendars/wills_search.htm
Co. Antrim & Co. Down 1911 census now online (free)- Jasper's listed there as well as other relatives.
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search
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welcome holywood to rootschat, found some info. could be your family.
births.ALFRED 31-1-1865. LUCY MADELINE 1866. CHARLES 28-12-1870. ALL BORN ANTRIM.
PARENTS. GUSTAVUS/GUSTAVE LEFEVRE/LEFEVERE & LUCY SILO.
regards mary.
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Dear Maryderry
I would very much appreciate more information on the Lefevre/Silo connection or point me in the right direction to look up these details. I have a French prayer book with Lucy Lefevre's name in it and dated 1861 and I know she died in 1943. Regards Holywood
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Hi,
There are two will abstracts in PRONI (see link above) for Jean Baptiste Gustave Lefevre and Lucy Lefevre.
Regards
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Hi,
Look at the 1911 census for Ireland (again link above). There are three sisters and a brother all sharing a house in Belfast. They may be the family which Maryderry found.
Regards
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Hi Holywood!! I started this post - my mother is a born Silo and Carlo was her great uncle. I have information connecting everyone and actually just came back from a trip to UK to see places where the ancestors all lived (I live in Canada). Send me an email if you would like to correspond.
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I would love to have as much info as possible. Carlo Gallee Silo would be my great grandfather. I have been trying to find out about the hotel he owned/ran in Belfast. I think it was called The George. Would be very interested to know about your mother's connection as my father always talked about family who left Ireland for Canada and were something to do with the Pacific Railways. Look forward to hearing from you.
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Hi Hollywood, just joined roots. My great grandfather was a brother of Carlo, both being sons of Modesto Silo. Just wondered if you got any further information.
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Hi Modesto - which brother of Carlo's? I descend from his brother George.
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Hi, My great grandfather was Henry, brother of Carlo,George, James, Lucia,Modesto, Andrew, Mary Elizabeth (Eliza), John. His father was Modesto. I am so excited that someone has found Modesto's birthplace in Italy. I have been looking for this for years. Last year I went to Italy as I thought it might have been Frosinone. Do you know who found the birthplace of Modesto and How.
Thanks for any information.
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Another Henry descendent hooked up with a Silo descendent in Italy and pieced it together. His chart goes back generations - I can share it with you if you send me private message with your email.
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Hi Surlie,
Many years ago Maureen Silo (my second cousin) gave me a family tree of the Silo family. My grandmother
was Margaret Silo who's father was francis silo and she was born in 1897?.
I lost the family tree and lost touch with Maureen. When I finally found her again she at that time was
too ill to get together with. She has recently passed away.
My uncle Billy is the only surviving son of my grandmother Margaret (she came to the usa when she was
9) and I wouldlove to show him this tree.
If you would be so kind to email me it I would be very appreciate. Maybe you don't even have it but
please let me know if this is possible.
best,
eileen
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Hi there I was interested to read your post because lucy lefevre was the sister of arthur
Joseph lefevre the father of my grandmother mathilde aurelie