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Title: 1851 / 1841 lookup Please
Post by: Williams on Wednesday 27 October 04 23:06 BST (UK)
Would be grateful if someone would be able to look the following family up on the 1851/1841 census for me

1861 RG09/2072 ED20 Group 23813
221 Rock Street Brierley Hill Stourbridge
Williams Family
Edward, Elizabeth,Edward, Richard, James, Mary & Joseph

many thanks

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Title: Re: 1851 / 1841 lookup Please
Post by: Gardener on Thursday 28 October 04 12:43 BST (UK)
I can't find it  >:( The following family is the closest I get, I leave it to you to decide but they are not a good match.

Brierley Hill, Kingswinford, Stourbridge 
Piece 2036 fol 433

001 Brierley Hill
Elizabeth Williams,wife,m,34,Kingswinford,STS, Stone miner's wife
John Williams,son,u,18,stone miner,Kingswinford,STS
Edward WIlliams,son,10,stone miner,Kingswinford,STS
Susannah Williams,dau,12,stone picker,Kingswinford,STS
Richard Williams,son,8,Kingswinford,STS,at home
James Williams,son,5,Kingswinford,STS,at home
Mary Ann Williams,dau,2,Kingswinford,STS,at home
Job Williams,son,1m,Kingswinford,STS,at home

Title: Re: 1851 / 1841 lookup Please
Post by: Williams on Wednesday 03 November 04 00:03 GMT (UK)
Thanks for this information - Gardner-  Its looks a good match, but like you I'm not 100% sure its the same family as the ages are slighty out.

Thanks again for looking
Williams
Title: Re: 1851 / 1841 lookup Please
Post by: allibaker on Monday 19 September 05 10:53 BST (UK)
could you show the complete entries for what you found in 1861 only i cant find a edward in stourbridge on the 1861 cencus?
if i can see the dates of birth maybe i can find them in 1841
regards
alli
Title: Re: 1851 / 1841 lookup Please
Post by: stonechat on Monday 19 September 05 16:27 BST (UK)
In 1841 There is Elizabeth Williams in Beoley Age 25
However she is with Samuel Williams Age 30
Both born in the county, no occupations

Also at same address are Helarah Craddock f, age 40 (best I can make out)
John Terry age 65 Ag Lab
Ann Terry age 70

Address is Holt End in Beoley

Bob
Title: Re: 1851 / 1841 lookup Please
Post by: stonechat on Monday 19 September 05 16:37 BST (UK)
It's
 Sarah Craddock not Helarah

it was the //  that I didn't make out, it was too close to the S

Bob
Title: Re: 1851 / 1841 lookup Please
Post by: Williams on Tuesday 29 November 05 13:57 GMT (UK)
Hi sorry not been on the site for a while.

Thanks to you all for looking up this family

the 1861 census I found them on is RG09/2072 Folio 90 Page 42

Birth dates approximate'
Edward         Father        1803
Elizabeth       Mother       1805
James            son            1848
Joseph           son            1852
Mary              Son            1851
Richard          Son            1846
Richard is the main person I am chasing as I cannot find a birth certificate so am hoping to go back as far as possible to confirm birth place or where the family was living at the time.
There might even be more children I have not come accross yet

Thanks again for your help
Carol
Title: Re: 1851 / 1841 lookup Please
Post by: allibaker on Tuesday 29 November 05 14:05 GMT (UK)
there is a richard williams of correct age living with grandmother in stourbridge on the 1851 cencus could he be yours? his place of birth is down as wolverhampton staffs.
regards
alli
Title: Re: 1851 / 1841 lookup Please
Post by: allibaker on Tuesday 29 November 05 14:11 GMT (UK)
there is a richard williams on the IG1
richard williams bapt 8th jan 1843 brierley hill stafford.parents edward and elizabeth williams.
with this in mind if he is yours then the richard on the 1851 looks a distinct possibility
regards
alli
Title: Re: 1851 / 1841 lookup Please
Post by: allibaker on Tuesday 29 November 05 14:14 GMT (UK)
just looked at the 51 and hes not yours sorry.this one has a mother named sophia living with him also.
Title: Re: 1851 / 1841 lookup Please
Post by: Williams on Tuesday 29 November 05 14:21 GMT (UK)
Hi,

The Baptism For Richard sounds like it could be the right one.
Could you give me the link to look it up (web page) This might be the reason we can't find a birth certificate, as i been concentrating on 1846 give or take a year
Title: Re: 1851 / 1841 lookup Please
Post by: allibaker on Tuesday 29 November 05 14:24 GMT (UK)
the 51 family that gardiner found is the correct one i believe.i have found them in 1841 with edward at home
living in kingswinford in 1841-
edward williams 25yrs iron miner
elizabeth 25yrs
john 5yrs
susannah 3yrs
edward 9 weeks
SOURCE INFO-H0107-0996
FOLIO-14/41
PAGE-10
REGARDS
ALLI
Title: Re: 1851 / 1841 lookup Please
Post by: Williams on Tuesday 29 November 05 14:54 GMT (UK)
Alli
that's brilliant, things seems to tie in  a bit better now, all the dates I had seemed to be 2 years out???

Is there an address listed for the 1841 censu

Also which IGI did you find the bap' for Richard

Thanks again
carol
Title: Re: 1851 / 1841 lookup Please
Post by: Williams on Wednesday 30 November 05 16:37 GMT (UK)
Have found Edward he is not shown with the family in1851 because he was in the Distrct county prison staffordshire.

Any ideas how I find the prison records as to why he was there?