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Some Special Interests => Travelling People => Topic started by: monalisa on Monday 03 July 06 12:34 BST (UK)
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Hi,
I'm looking for any information about my Gr, Gr, Grandfather Robert Gibson and his family, Robert was born at Tweedmouth, Berwickshire c.1836, he died in Kirkaldy, Fife in 1917. He was married in the first instance to Ann or Agnes Renwick born c. 1839 in Elliarage? or Ellingham? England {taken from two different census's} he was married a second time to Jane Francis. Roberts father was also Robert Gibson and his mother was Janet, or Jane or Jean Gibson?
Some of the names carried down the generations were: Robert, Daniel, Henry, James, Alexander, Agnes, Jane, Mary.
In census's they were mostly down as Hawkers, they have been in census's in Hawick, Duns, Berwick, Coldingham, Kirkaldy, Dalkeith. So they got about quite a bit!
Any information would be very much appreciated, especially pre 1800. As I have come to a standstill!
The Gibson's were a travelling family, I think they mostly dealt in selling Chinaware.
My Great Great Grandfather's sister [Agnes Gibson] was married to Esther Faa Blyth's son Robert Rutherford.
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I think your gt. gt. grandfather Robert was the brother of my gt. gt. grandfather Alexander.
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Really! that's great!
Yes Robert did have a brother named Alexander. :)
How far back have you got with the Gibson's? If you would like some info [although you may have more than me] then please don't hesitate to ask.
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I am stuck at Alexander. Knew he had a brother Robert but did not know about Agnes until I read your message.
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Hi
My Gr Gr Gr Grandfather is your Gr Gr Grandfather I haven't got any further back yet than Robert Gibson and Agnes Renwick.
Have been up to NAS looking at the Valuation Rolls 1914 /1915 just getting the hang of it.
Found his son gr gr Grandfather Robert Gibson (who was married to RoseAnn Mullan.) at 14 Kirkgate containing house, Garden, Stable. Then 1917/ 1918 he had numbers 10, 12, & 14.
My mum still tells me stories about when she was a young girl and the stories her grandmother another AGNES GIBSON told her. about selling Embroidered Linen.
Rosie
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Hi Rosie,
I'm not really that much further ahead of you, but I think I do have Robert's father and mother, I think they are Robert Gibson & Janet Gibson [possibly cousins] they were married on the 9th March 1825 in Tranent, East Lothian. On the OPR it states that Robert Gibson Hawker in Tranent married Janet Gibson daughter of Alexander Gibson Hawker in Falkirk.
I cannot find Anne Gibson's [Renwick] death recorded anywhere? But I do know that Robert remarried in
1896, he married Jean Francis in Haddington, on the marriage certificate his parents names were given as Robert Gibson [Hawker] and Jean Gibson [ms. Gibson] so I do think this is the same couple that were married in Tranent in 1825 as people with the name Janet often had their names shortened to Jane or Jean.
Robert died in Kirkaldy in 1917. His son Daniel registered his death and mistakenly gave Robert's mothers name as Mary Gibson.
My Grandmother also used to tell me off her and her sisters sitting in the back of her father James Gibson's horse and cart. :)
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Hello All,
I'd like to chip in here because Robert Gibson (born Tweedmouth c.1836) was my great grandfather. His son Daniel (1867-1936) was my maternal grandfather and I was born in Kirkcaldy. Please let me know if you would like to swap info.
Jack
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My family on my mothers side (who was a Young)a Ben Gibson in Kirkcady who dealt with carpets,many years ago,There is a Ann Renwick b c1840 Berwick-upon-Tweed married Robert Gibson b c1840 also Berwick,their son Robert Gibson b1858 married Rose-Ann Mullen b c1863 South Shields
any connection?
Joe
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Hello Joe,
Yes, there is a connection. Robert Gibson (1836-1917) and Anne Renwick (b.1839) were my great grandparents. Robert was born in Tweedmouth and Anne was born in Lucker, Northumberland. They married at Lamberton Toll in 1857. I've got Robert Gibson, their first son, married to Rose Ann Mullen in South Shields but I don't know the date, neither do I know much about Rose Ann other than she died in 1919.
I'm intrigued by this Ben Gibson, though, because the elder Robert died in Kirkcaldy - my birthplace. My mother was a Gibson. Do you know much about Ben? How does all this fit in with your family?
Would you prefer to exchange info via email? We can pass email addresses by private message on this board.
Regards, Jack
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Hello Jack
A good idea , I am new to this site,can you send me a PM? and we can send details by email.
Joe
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Hi is this thread still active? I'm new to Rootschat and feel this thread is about my Gibson family. I have stacks of info on the Gibson Hawkers. I have Roberts and Alexanders and Jean Jane Janet!!! or whatever name she chooses to go by :)
My grt grt grt gtandfather Robert Gibson was born at Lauder in 1816 to Alexander and Jean Gibson. His siblings were Jean, Anne, Alxr, James, John, Henrietta and Andrew. Happy to swop any info :)
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Hi
I have had no further replies to the Gibson family forum, it has been years since I have done any research on the Gibson or Young family family but would be interested if you have any details
Regards
Joe
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Thanks for your reply :) I was just wondering if anyone needed any help, just shout if you do! I haven't worked on my Gibsons for a few years and have recently dug out all my paperwork...it's currently all over the loungeroom floor! :)
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Hello,
After a long absence, I had decided to re-visit my Gibson family and try to update it and, when I logged into RootsChat, this thread seems to have been revived.
One family which I am struggling with at the moment is that of James Gibson (b. Swinton 1827) who was married to Margaret. I cannot find their marriage. Their children were Robert and Elizabeth born in Dalkeith Then Jane, Mary, Phillis and Daniel, all born in East Linton. Do you recognise this family?
Regards, Jack
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Hi Jack
Long time since I last heard from you, 6 years ago, afraid nothing new to add but still interested will keep an eye on site
Joe
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One family which I am struggling with at the moment is that of James Gibson (b. Swinton 1827) who was married to Margaret. I cannot find their marriage. Their children were Robert and Elizabeth born in Dalkeith Then Jane, Mary, Phillis and Daniel, all born in East Linton. Do you recognise this family?
Hi I recognise this family. I believe Margaret was b1826 Falkirk to Alexander Gibson and Jean Gibson my grt grt grt grt grandparents. I don't seem to have their marriage either but I do have both their death certificates dated 1894 and 1917.
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Hi I recognise this family. I believe Margaret was b1826 Falkirk to Alexander Gibson and Jean Gibson my grt grt grt grt grandparents. I don't seem to have their marriage either but I do have both their death certificates dated 1894 and 1917.
Hi
Alex & Jean Gibson can you tell me where they died and where they are buried?
I think there were my family.
Many thanks
Joe
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Hi Joe
Alxndr Gibson d1846 Dalkieth age 58
Jean (Jane) m/s Gibson d1863 Dalkeith age 73
I also have some death certs for the family JDB307-Jack refers to
One family which I am struggling with at the moment is that of James Gibson (b. Swinton 1827) who was married to Margaret. I cannot find their marriage. Their children were Robert and Elizabeth born in Dalkeith Then Jane, Mary, Phillis and Daniel, all born in East Linton
James Gibson d1894 South Leith age 68
Margrt Gibson m/s Gibson d1917 South Leith age 92
Do we have a connection here? :)
Debs
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Hello Debs,
Thanks for those death cert details. I had originally thought that my 2xgreat grandmother, Janet Gibson, was the daughter of Alexander and Jean Gibson but the only birth record I can find for her is from scotlandspeople 479/50/382 which gives her baptism in Falkirk as 17 May 1806 and her parents as Thomas Gibson and Anne Reid. The only marriage I can find for these two names is 19 May 1805 in Arbuthnot, Kincardine. The date fits nicely but this is quite a long way from where the rest of my Gibson family were. Any thoughts?
Jack
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Hi Jack,
Yep just a couple of thoughts
Where Alexander and Jean Gibson Hawkers?
Is it possible Janet was also known as 'Jean'?
I have a Jean Gibson - 1st born child to Alxender Gibson Weaver and Jean Gibson Kilmarnock 1808.
The Kilmarnock connection is throwing me but I'm not discounting it yet! I feel Jean and Alexander were actually around Falkirk at this time. I'm sure they married there in 1806???? I'm sorry I don't have my notes with me at the mo.
Debs :)
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Debs,
I've just found a possible wife for Alexander Gibson. Janet Jean Gibson born 7 Nov 1788 and baptised 28 Dec 1789 in Falkirk. Her parents were George Gibson and Marianne Manson. See LDS Batch No.C119701. Her death age could have been reckoned from her baptism date but death certs are notoriously unreliable as sources anyway. Her baptism record from ScotlandsPeople Ref.479/50/9 does not give her father's occupation. It only mentions that the birth was lawful. However, the vast majority of my Gibson ancestors were hawkers.
Janet had five siblings, William 1790, Jean Swinton 1792, Agnes Scarth 1794 George 1795 and Thomas 1801, all born in Falkirk.
I can still find no reference to my Janet Gibson, born 1806, being part of this family. Her baptism entry 479/50/382 has her father as Thomas Gibson, Grammar School, Falkirk and her mother as Anne Reid. The very next entry is for her sister Mary Anne who was born 27 Sep 1807 in Forfar and baptised two weeks later in Falkirk. So, now I have to research the Grammar School thing!
Hope you can make use of all this.
Jack
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Hi Jack wishing you well with your Gibson quest. I'll certainly be following this thread with interest from now on and I'm sure this Gibson family will all be clear as mud one day ;D
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Debs,
I've just found a possible wife for Alexander Gibson. Janet Jean Gibson born 7 Nov 1788 and baptised 28 Dec 1789 in Falkirk. Her parents were George Gibson and Marianne Manson. See LDS Batch No.C119701. Her death age could have been reckoned from her baptism date but death certs are notoriously unreliable as sources anyway. Her baptism record from ScotlandsPeople Ref.479/50/9 does not give her father's occupation. It only mentions that the birth was lawful. However, the vast majority of my Gibson ancestors were hawkers.
Janet had five siblings, William 1790, Jean Swinton 1792, Agnes Scarth 1794 George 1795 and Thomas 1801, all born in Falkirk.
I can still find no reference to my Janet Gibson, born 1806, being part of this family. Her baptism entry 479/50/382 has her father as Thomas Gibson, Grammar School, Falkirk and her mother as Anne Reid. The very next entry is for her sister Mary Anne who was born 27 Sep 1807 in Forfar and baptised two weeks later in Falkirk. So, now I have to research the Grammar School thing!
Hope you can make use of all this.
Jack
Jack
My family is descended from Thomas Gibson of Falkirk Grammar School. A 19th century book "Schools and Schoolmen of Falkirk" by Love, tells of his tenure as rector / headmaster of the School and gives details of his birth and death. I have attached an extract for you and for other interested Gibsons. One of Thomas's sons founded Gibson's Travelling Library in 1820s which I'd like to find out more about. I have details, less immediately to hand but recoverable, of his children's dates of birth etc. and also about the scandal involving his brother, Adam Gibson.
AL
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AL,
Thank you so much for your message.
Thomas Gibson and Anne Reid were my maternal 3xgt grandparents and, until your message, I had no idea of their parents.
I am intrigued by your reference to Adam Gibson because the only reference I have for him was as witness, with Jean Reid (sister of Anne?), to Janet Gibson's baptism on 17 May 1806. I came across a webpage Ross and Cromarty Heritage which has the book "Nigg and Shadwick History - A Changing Parish" by Anne Gordon. Under Chapter 26 - Education there is reference to a Thomas Adam Gibson, a student at Tain Academy, being appointed Parish School Master and session Clerk in 1821 at Tain.
If you can find the time I would really appreciate the details of Thomas' children and also the story of Adam Gibson.
Do you know which of Thomas's sons had the travelling library? Perhaps if we both search for that we could stand a better chance of uncovering the story.
Jack
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Hello Jack
Thomas Gibson was my great-great-great-great grandfather. So we are very distant cousins!
Adam was Thomas' brother, born in Dumfriesshire in 1778. I have attached his and Thomas' birth records. Adam was the black sheep of the family. You can read about the court case at https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=16kDAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA519&lpg=PA519&dq=%22adam+gibson%22+tain&source=bl&ots=MJNWh6mSVv&sig=2boZdWc-aCha4fZhnoUtxdgUlxs&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjV0Y_txfjaAhVqBcAKHd_2CKIQ6AEIOjAE#v=onepage&q=%22adam%20gibson%22%20tain&f=false
Adam had a son named Thomas A Gibson who was a scholar who wrote textbooks in classics, languages and geography in the early 19th century and who emigrated to Canada in 1830s and was later a professor at McGill University.
Our Thomas Gibson had a son named Alexander who had the travelling library. He died in penury in the workhouse in Falkirk in the early 1840s. His death certificate is annotated and describes him as the son of the rector of Falkirk Grammar School - who was still alive at the time. There is obviously a sad family story there.
I will look out some more material later in the week and send on to you.
Alyson
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Thomas Gibson birth record
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Alyson
Thanks again for these gems, especially the link to Adam's case of dismissal. I look forward to what comes next.
Incidentally, I am going to visit a cousin in Linlithgow in a few days time. Falkirk isn't so very far away and I was wondering if the original Grammar School was still there.
Jack
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Jack
The Grammar School, at least 19th century version of it, stood at corner of Park Street and Princes Street in Falkirk. It is now a community education centre. It might be worth contacting the Falkirk Herald https://www.falkirkherald.co.uk/contact-us to check if they have any old photos. Some years ago my cousin and I visited Callendar House in Falkirk where all the archives of the town are stored. They were most helpful and I would recommend a visit. It is in a lovely setting http://www.falkirkcommunitytrust.org/heritage/archives/default.aspx . My cousin also found a Forfar connection with both Thomas and Adam teaching at the Academy School there in 18th century. Adam ended up in Tain at the Academy. If you search for Adam Gibson and Tain online you can find scans of the school registers.
I found a post where you mentioned a newspaper article about the death of Anne Reid. Could you post a link to it?
Have a good trip to Linlithgow.
Alyson
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Alyson,
I found the newspaper report in the findmypast collection. From the Aberdeen Press & Journal, 30 April 1834, it reads "At Falkirk, on the 14th., Ann Reid, spouse of Thomas Gibson, A.M., Rector of the Grammar School there." A double check on scotlandspeople 479/130/474 and the burial register gives us "Parish Church-yard April 19. Ann Reid wife of Thomas Gibson Grammar School Master of Falkirk"
There is mention in Schools and Schoolmen of Thomas being elected assistant to his brother in Forfar in June 1805 before settling in Falkirk the following year.
Many thanks for the links. I will follow them up later as I have no time at the moment. I run the local art group here and we are gearing up for this year's exhibition, hanging tomorrow and showing Saturday and Sunday. The clear up starts on Monday so, busy times!
Jack
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Hi Jack
We have found four children of Thomas Gibson and Anne Reid. Janet (b 1806) Mary Anne (b 10 Oct 1807) Thomas (b 28 May 1810) and Alexander Reid (b 22 Oct 1815). My family is descended from Alexander. The name is still in the family: my cousin, his sons and grandson all have Alexander as a first or middle name. Alexander married Margaret Drummond. He seems to have gone from having a travelling library to being a bookbinder and stationer. We found a record that seems to be his bankruptcy. It looked like it was the perennial small business problem - people not paying their bills. He was owed around £2400 - about £250,000 in today's money and could not pay his creditors. He and his wife moved into the Falkirk workhouse where their son Thomas was born in 1845. Young Thomas, aged about 13 seems to have made his way to Dundee where he married twice. His second wife was my grandfather's grandmother. My grandfather remembered her well.
Alyson
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Hello Alyson,
Many thanks for your latest message. I would like to send you a couple of newspaper articles but I cannot work out how to insert the two jpeg images. It's probably very simple and I am missing something obvious so, can you give me a clue please?
Jack
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Alyson,
Somehow one of the images got attached. I have no idea how so I'll try to replicate what I did.
Jack
(http://)
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Alyson,
I am not sure of the second article. The name may just be a coincidence.
Jack
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Jack
Thank you for these articles - fascinating!. What source do you use for them?
I think the Alexander Reid Gibson may be the right one - compositor is a printer and we know Thomas's son did printing and bookbinding. This opens up other possible sources like Glasgow Royal Infirmary records and the Sheriff Court records.
Alyson
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Alyson,
I use the newpapers and periodicals collection at findmypast. If you don't subscribe to this site please let me know if there is anything you would like me to look up.
Another quick search on the GRI and I found a site called Jisc Archive Hub, the link for which is https://archiveshub.jisc.ac.uk/data/gb812-hb13. They hold the admission documents for 1816 - 1960 of Gartnavel Royal Hospital which I think was originally was the lunatic asylum bit of the GRI.
Unfortunately, I do not think that I will have time to do any research in Glasgow next week.
Jack
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Alyson
I've just found the will of Thomas Gibson (1810-1841) dated 3 May 1842, (Ref: Stirling Sheriff Court SC67/36/21) which lists him as bookseller and resident of Falkirk, only brother of Alexander Reid Gibson.
There are 3 handwritten pages in which Alexander seems to be the only surviving relative and he states that he will take over the management of the business.
Do you know if Alexander Reid Gibson was married to Helen Russell and did they have children?
Jack
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Alyson,
Another little snip from the newspapers:
From the Inverness Courier 15 October 1834:
Marriages - At Duddington, on the 9th October, by the rev. Henry Scott, Mr Samuel Ferguson, preacher of the Gospel and Schoolmaster of Kirkpatrick-Durham, to Eliza, eldest daughter of Mr Adam Gibson, one of the teachers in the Academy of Tain.
Jack
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Alyson
Yet another:
From the Falkirk Herald 14 May 1846
OLD PARISH SCHOOL-HOUSES, &c. AT FALKIRK, FOR SALE.
There will be Sold at Public Roup, within the Blue Bell Inn, Falkirk, upon Thursday the 4th day of June 1846, at 2 o'clock Afternoon, the Dwelling-House, School-Room, and Garden, in the Town of Falkirk, presently occupied by Mr Thomas Gibson, Classical School-master for said parish, together with the English School-room and Area in front, and whole parts and pertinents belonging to said subjects.
The House could be converted, a very little expense, into a genteel-looking self-contained Mansion, or might be used as at present for School-Rooms and Dwelling-House.
For particulars, apply to HENRY AITKEN, Writer, Falkirk, Clerk to the Heritors of Falkirk.
Falkirk 11th May 1846
Jack
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I don't know where my great uncle Alfred Ruthwas born but I think it was 1893 Rutherford father was John Rutherford born Duns Berwick 1869? who married M Patterson. His mother I believe was Agnes Gibson who wed Robert Rutherford? She is on several census forms with the addition of children but no Robert. Can anyone give me any information please.
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Kags,
Agnes Gibson was my great great aunt, born 1844 in Gordon, the daughter of Robert Gibson b.1795 and Janet Gibson b.1806. Agnes married Robert Rutherford on 2 March 1868 in Coldstream. He was born 1848 in Cockburnspath. They had two sons that I know of, John R. born 1869 and Robert R. born 1875. Like a lot of the family Agnes was a hawker.
Jack
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Thank you for your prompt reply. I Have tried to find Robert on several census but Agnes and children are listed but no Robert; so as you say if they were Hawkers he’d probably be off somewhere.
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Hi JDB307, Can I ask for your help? Was Agnes Gibson's husband Robert Rutherford Esther Faa Blythe's son as mentioned by others and how would I confirm that? I can't find a marriage certificate (possibly didn't marry) so can't tell who her parents were other than guessing and the same for Robert. Thanks for your time.
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Kags,
I have no source for their marriage but familysearch has the birth of their son John on 4 Jan 1869 which was at Duns (see Batch No C117351). Agnes is listed in each census there from 1871 to 1901 but Robert is not mentioned on any of them. Scotlandspeople seems to have no record of their marriage but I was once told that they married in Coldstream. Since writing that earlier I have been unable to find a source to cannot confirm that.
If Robert Rutherford was the son of Esther Faa Blyth why would he have a different surname?
Agnes Gibson was my great great aunt born 1844 in Gordon and her parents were Robert Gibson (b.1795 Nenthorn) and Janet Gibson (b.1806 Forfar) as I mentioned in my post on 5 June.
I do not know who Robert Rutherford's parents were.
Jack
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Hullo there - researching Adam Gibson, formerly headteacher Forfar Grammar School and latterly classics master at Tain royal Academy (started there 1813 - it all ended badly a couple of decades later). I'm new to this site, so may be doing this wrong, but had the feeling you'd a connection with him? It's the Tain end I'm looking into, but would love to know more about his background. Any help greatly welcome! Thank you!
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If you start at the beginning of this thread you should get most of what you are looking for.
Jack
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Will do, thank you for very prompt response. J
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Kags,
I have no source for their marriage but familysearch has the birth of their son John on 4 Jan 1869 which was at Duns (see Batch No C117351). Agnes is listed in each census there from 1871 to 1901 but Robert is not mentioned on any of them. Scotlandspeople seems to have no record of their marriage but I was once told that they married in Coldstream. Since writing that earlier I have been unable to find a source to cannot confirm that.
If Robert Rutherford was the son of Esther Faa Blyth why would he have a different surname?
Agnes Gibson was my great great aunt born 1844 in Gordon and her parents were Robert Gibson (b.1795 Nenthorn) and Janet Gibson (b.1806 Forfar) as I mentioned in my post on 5 June.
I do not know who Robert Rutherford's parents were.
Jack
Hi Jack
Esther Faa Blythe married a Rutherford. see https://www.scottishgypsies.co.uk/esther.html (https://www.scottishgypsies.co.uk/esther.html)
Hope you are well
Alyson
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Hi all, there seems to be a lot of connections on this thread so am wondering if any of us have DNA tested? I have. ;D
Anyone know of a GIBSON DNA thread?
Cheers Debbie
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Hello Debbie,
I've just picked up your post asking if anyone with Gibson ancestry had taken a DNA test. I tested earlier this year and uploaded the raw DNA to the gedmatch site.
There has been a rather disappointing response to all the matches that I contacted, with only two replies to the first twelve on my list. Have you fared any better?
Regards, Jack
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Hi there Jack, tbh I have not really used Gedmatch that much but have uploaded my DNA there.
My kit no. is A373019
Would be interested to you know yours.
As for responses to contacts on any of the Genealogy/DNA sites, I have had very few!! So dissapointed also.
Do you have a tree anywhere that I could view?
Kind regards Debbie
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Hello Debbie,
Thanks for giving me your kit number. I've run a quick comparison with my kit QJ7959232 on the gedmatch one-to-one tool and it appears that we do not share any DNA segments although there are several base pairs with full match and many base pairs with half match, whatever that means.
However, that's not the end of the trail. I do have a tree on Ancestry but, as it isn't kept up to date, it might be best if I send you a GEDCOM and you can compare my Gibsons with yours. To do this I will need your email address which can only be sent to me by Private Message on this site.
Another option would be for me to send you a PDF narrative report based purely on my Gibson line. This would be based on my mother, Agnes Gibson, and would show her ancestors generation by generation.
Please let me know what you think would be best.
Kind regards,
Jack
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Debbie,
I've been looking at your tree and am becoming more convinced that our connection is with your Jean Gibson b.1808 who I think that she was baptised 15 Mar 1808 in Kilmarnock, the daughter of Alexander Gibson.
Scotlandspeople has the following:
Tranent Parish Register 9 March 1825
Robert Gibson Hawker in Tranent and Janet Gibson daughter of Alexander Gibson, Hawker in Falkirk were proclaimed 20th & 27th Feb. Married 9 March 1825.
Given the random nature of the Gibson's naming their daughters Jane/Janet/Jean with a seemingly free choice throughout their lives, makes a strong case for this connection.
I look forward to your thoughts.
Kind regards,
Jack
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Hello Debbie,
It's been a wee while since we were last in touch. In the meantime I've been trying to resolve the connection between us and I may have come up with a solution.
For years I have had a copy of the marriage entry for Robert and Janet which shows that they were married on 9 March 1825 in Tranent but I could never find her parents. A couple of days ago I came across another marriage entry from the Falkirk OPR 479/120/101 which reads, "Robert Gibson of the parish of Tranent and Jean Gibson of this parish. Married 11th March 1825."
The minister in Falkirk probably new her and therefore got her name right which I now believe is Jean Gibson born 1808 in Kilmarnock to Alexander and Jean Gibson. The minister in Tranent probably misheard her name and made an incorrect entry.
I would be very interested to hear your comments on this which, if I'm right, confirms Jean as my 2x gt grandmother.
Kind regards,
Jack
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A very interesting thread and subject, keep up the good work, lots of things went on yeares ago that d.n.a will not be able to work out unless thousands are tested, thats just how life is
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Hi all, there seems to be a lot of connections on this thread so am wondering if any of us have DNA tested? I have. ;D
Anyone know of a GIBSON DNA thread?
Cheers Debbie
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Hello All,
I'd like to chip in here because Robert Gibson (born Tweedmouth c.1836) was my great grandfather. His son Daniel (1867-1936) was my maternal grandfather and I was born in Kirkcaldy. Please let me know if you would like to swap info.
Jack
My Name is Diane Wilson
A bit late to the party! I'm related to Robert Gibson and Ann Renwick.
Their children, Daniel Gibson born 1867, his sister Jane Gibson born 1869 and his brother John Gibson born 1880.
There was a census in 1901 where uncle John Gibson (20 yrs) and his nephew Ralph Gibson (9 yrs) were visiting Auntie Jane and her husband in Leith (Duke Street, Edinburgh)
Daniel is my great grandfather, he had a son Ralph Gibson, my grandfather born 1891.
Ralph Gibson married my grandmother Christina McKenzie Torrie in 1924.
They had one daughter Williamina Torrie Gibson,born 1930,died 2007 that's my mother, My mum married George Wilson born 1931, died 2023, my dad.
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Hi all
What can I add to this thread? I come down from Robert Gibson and Rose Ann Mullen (x3 Gt Grandparents). I see there is a lot of info on this thread already so I’ll try not to repeat (there might be some!).
To start with, Rose Ann was the daughter of Edward Mullen and Mary Ann Gordon. Edward was born in Ireland about 1828 to Hugh Mullen and Mary Carly and had the following siblings that I know of: Esther, John and Hugh. Mary Ann is a mystery on birth (some census Ireland others Aberdeenshire). She died 1894 on Fraserburgh Links - there’s a newspaper article about her funeral entitled ‘A Gypsy Funeral’ from that year that declares a great turnout. Mary Ann and Edward had 8 other children that I know of (William, Catherine, Mary Ann, Helen, John, Agnes, Edward Patrick, Anthony [named after Mary Ann’s father] and Elizabeth.
As for Gibsons. I have managed to dig a bit further back.
From my Robert (x3 Gt Grandfather), his father Robert and mother Ann Renwick (x4 Gt Grandparents) have been mentioned in this thread. The Renwicks btw head back through the years from Northumberland to Selkirkshire.
That Robert’s parents, Robert and Jean (both Gibson) (my x5 GG) have been listed here. I have no death records.
As far as I can tell through records, that Robert’s family line comes from East Lothian and Berwickshire. I have it back to 1690 if all correct.
That Jean’s parents:
As others have mentioned, were Alexander and Jean (Jane) (Irvine). Jean was born in Glasgow. Both Alexander and Jean (Jane) died in Dalkeith and are buried in Dalkeith New Cemetery (no grave marker or exact record of plot but Midlothian Council confirmed at least he is there). Their son John Brown Paterson Gibson (died 1881) is also buried in Dalkeith New Cemetery. No gravestone but I have found the plot. Their daughter Henrietta (died 1881) who married Peter Cairney is buried in the Watchtower Cemetery in Dalkeith - listing states a stone but I have yet to get access, a job for one day very soon. Henrietta was living in Brotherstone’s Close, Dalkeith when she died. That close no longer exists and jumps about in records of where it was, but def east side of Dalkeith High St.
I have Alexander’s father line going back to 1686 (his gt grandfather John) all in Ayrshire, Kilmarnock area. His mother’s (Jean Marshall) line is Kilmaurs, Ayrshire going back to 1672, allegedly her Gt Grandfather was William Marshall the King in Dumfriesshire.
I have Alexander’s wife Jean’s family as possibly kicking about Edinburgh but it's yet to be confirmed and needs way more work.
As for the other Rutherford brother, Agnes Gibson’s brother-in-law John, he headed to Canada where his descendants reside.
There are quite a few newspaper articles avail that I have found (court cases, accusations of witchcraft)….more so on Mullen side.
A lot of intermarrying and connections made.
For anyone coming down through Robert Gibson and Rose Ann Mullen I have found other graves in Aberdeen where a lot of the family ended up.
edwardoscar
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Edwardoscar, interesting, particularly regarding That Jean's parents: - I have Alexander's wife Jean (Jane ' Jean' Irvine died 18 April 1863) as follows: - Father James Irvine b. 12 Feb 1764 Edinburgh, Mother Charlote Lambert b. abt. 1767. see attached chart for more details