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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Hampshire & Isle of Wight => Topic started by: Sandra Parker on Monday 26 June 06 11:14 BST (UK)
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George Jacobs Please, born Wootten in 1858, married Elizabeth Mary Barton, born Seaview 1857. She was the daughter of George Robert Barton 1823-1861, and Betsey Shiner, 1823-1862.
George Please and Elizabeth Mary had children, Arthur Joseph, 1884-?. Emily Maude, 1893-?, Albert Victor George, 1897-?, and Maggie Elizabeth, 1900-?. Elizabeth Mary died (Lizzy M PLEASE registered at Brentford 3a 274 march qtr 1935 aged 77 ).
George Jacobs Please then married Elizabeth Sarah Barton, born Kessingland Suffolk, registered Dec Q 1936. She was Elizabeth Mary's niece. She had been in service and presumably lived with her Aunt and Uncle prior to the Aunt's death. I cannot find any residence for her between 1901 and 1936 as yet, so this is conjecture.
George Jacobs Please died in 1939 in Blean, Kent. Elizabeth Sarah Please (Barton), my G Aunt Lisbeth, died in 1960 at Bromley. There were no children and my family had no knowledge of the original Please children.
I understand that by 1931 it was legal to marry your niece, though this relationship was by marriage.
Obviously this was not to Elizabeth the younger's, financial benefit as she spent the rest of her life living with her sister and brother in law at Herne Bay, Kent.
Does anyone have any knowledge of the Please family, please. I do have census and other data for the Barton families.
By the way, it's overwhelming trying to search any site, anywhere, for a member of the Please family. Everyone is so polite in their listings, there are millions of responses! ::) ::)
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Hi Sandra,
I can see George in 1871 and 1861 - any use?
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Wonderful, thanks.
I forgot to add that I have 1881, 1891 and !901 census for George Please.
He was prison warder at Parkhurst prison.
Sandra
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There was another child before Arthur - Ethel May, she died aged 26 days ( :'( ) in 1882.
Emily M Please is listed as marrying Frank A Robinson 1916 at St Edmund Wootton
Maggie E Please is listed as marrying Montague G Mew 1922 at St Edmund Wootton
Albert V G Please married Dorothy Wheeldon 1932 St Edmund Wootton
George Jacobs Please had an older sister Sarah Ann born in 1856, a younger sister Emily born 1860, and a younger brother named Albert Victor born in 1864. I haven't found his parents' marriage listed in the IOW index.
Nell
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1871
RG10/1164 58 6 & 7
Wootton Arreton, Hampshire
William Please, head, 45, Carpenter empl. 1 man, b. Devon Washfield
Sarah, wife, 44, b. Dorset Wimborne
Harriet, dau, unm, 18, b. IOW Carisbrooke
George J, son, 12, scholar, b. Parish of Arreton
Emily, dau, 10, scholar, b. do.
1861
RG9/656 35 18
Arreton, Hampshire
Wootton
William Place, head, 35, Wheelwright, b. Devon Washfield
Sarah, wife, 34, b. Dorset Wimborne
Wm Hy, son, 11, scholar, b. do.
Charlotte, dau, 10, scholar, b. do.
Harriott, dau, 8, scholar, b. Hants Newport
Mary, dau, 7, scholar, b. Wootton
Sarah, dau, 5, scholar, b. do.
Geo, son, 2, scholar, b. do.
Emily, dau, 6mo, b. do.
Tanja :)
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1851
HO107/1854 347 6
Wimborne Minster, Dorset
'Bushes'
William Pleace, head, 25, Wheelwright, b. Devon Washfield
Sarah, wife, 24, b. Wimborne Minster
William Hy, son, 1, b. do.
Charlotte, dau, 1, b. do.
and next door - might be relevant
'Dog Dean'
James Jacobs, head, 48, Farmer of 33 acres, Wimborne
Sarah, wife, 47, b. Middlesex not known
Charles, son, 21, Carpenter (apprentice), b. Wimborne Minster
Edmund, son, 19, Farmer's son, b. do.
George, son, 13, Farmer's son, b. do.
Mary, dau, 9, b. do.
Tanja :)
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and next door - might be relevant
Probably - the maiden name of George's mother is shown as Jacobs!
Nell
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I have had a look in 1841 for a Sarah Jacobs in Wimborne and there are 2 :-\
One age 15 a female servant, and one age 13 with the family found above.
Tanja :)
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Goodness, what a lot of information, thank you both very much.
Interesting that all of the daughters at home in 1861, were somewhere else ten years later, aged 15-20. other than the youngest, Emily.
Thank you for the possible 'Jacobs connection' next door in 1851.
Gives me lots to chase up, well try to anyway!
Once again, appreciate so much the help forum members give,
Sandra :)
Just knocked out of World Cup :'( :'( :'(
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Just knocked out of World Cup :'( :'( :'(
The whistle men again ::)
Just out of interest if you search www.192.com there are several people with the Please surname listed :).
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Thank you, Wendi. I had not been there before.
Thought initially is was a bit expensive per search details at 15 pounds for 5 credits, then found there were 'free directory' bits as well! And have some Please's' on IOW. Must belong somewhere, so will snailmail and see what happens.
Sandra :)
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Sorry Sandra I should have said I was not recommending the pay to view stuff :)
Good Luck :D
Wendi
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Hi it's been a while since you posted but I have Maggie E Please's granddaughter Jenny sitting beside me and curious to know where you fit in Sandra Parker?
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It's a rather remote connection really, by marriage. I was interested in this side of the family as I had only childhood memories of a few relatives, my paternal grandparents, my grandma's sister Elizabeth Sarah Barton, the second wife of George Jacobs Please (1881-1960) and my grandma's brother in law, Matthew James Brownfield (1879-1957). I left England in 1949. My Aunt Elizabeth had no children of her own.
George Jacobs Please had been previously married to Elizabeth Mary Barton(1857-1935), known in the family as Lizzie. Lizzie was Elizabeth Sarah's aunt.
This is all I have found out about them. I hope you find it useful.
Sandra
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I think Jenny is a bit amazed due to not realising that George Jacobs Please had got married again as her Grandmother not her Mother have ever mentioned it! There has never been any information about a second marriage before so is interesting stuff! Thankyou for all the information!
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Glad it was he was of interest. George was dead by the time I was born, but she always referred to her husband as Mr Please, never 'my husband' in conversation.
I don't know whether she was 'employed' to look after him after he was widowed, and things 'went from there', but there was a considerable age difference as you will have noticed. She never remarried.
You can imagine when I first went searching, how confusing to find to wives with the same name.
Sandra