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Title: Is this a lost cause?
Post by: Lizrr on Friday 23 June 06 09:17 BST (UK)
My Gt Gt Grandparents
Born Ireland James Conn about 1826
Margaret Conn NEE Lilly Born  1836
No Place name so is this a lost cause? No idea where to look in Ireland.
 I found them in 1881 in Govan Lanark
With their family.
Thanks   Liz
Title: Re: Is this a lost cause?
Post by: choccobaby on Friday 23 June 06 09:38 BST (UK)
It is never a lost cause.

Keep trying and you shall find, may just take a little longer.

Title: Re: Is this a lost cause?
Post by: Lizrr on Friday 23 June 06 09:48 BST (UK)
So just look all over Donegal? I have looked can't seem to find any Conn's or Lilly? :(
Title: Re: Is this a lost cause?
Post by: choccobaby on Friday 23 June 06 09:51 BST (UK)
write all you have, I can run some searches for you now.
Title: Re: Is this a lost cause?
Post by: Lizrr on Thursday 29 June 06 12:38 BST (UK)
James Conn Born  Ireland in 1881 ? Margaret Conn /Nee Lilly born1886?

i found them at 9 Burndyke Place in Govan  Lanark1881
 James age 52
Margaret age 45 in 1881
and their 6 daughters.
Some of the girls where born in Greenock
do not know if this is any good.

Thanks in advance i have been trying but no luck.
Title: Re: Is this a lost cause?
Post by: audrey on Thursday 29 June 06 12:55 BST (UK)
can you post the name of the children that might help and religion

Audrey
Title: Re: Is this a lost cause?
Post by: Lizrr on Thursday 29 June 06 13:41 BST (UK)
Children
Jane Conn age 24 Born Greenock Potter Worker
Margeret Conn age 22  Greenock Potter worker
Elizabeth Conn My GGrandmother age 20 Born Greenock Potter W
Ellen Conn age 15 Greenock  Potter Worker
Sarah Conn age 4   Born Govan
Annie Conn age 1  Born Glasgow

Elizabeth Married in 1883 Willianm Cairns
in Roman Catholic Chapel Govan Lanark
so i assumed they were Catholic.
Thanks

Title: Re: Is this a lost cause?
Post by: audrey on Thursday 29 June 06 14:11 BST (UK)
did you know James married in Scotland ?
James Conn to
Margaret Lilly 25/12/1853 at Greenock Renfrew
if you go to S.P.you will get the cert it will give you the parents and place of birth

audrey
Title: Re: Is this a lost cause?
Post by: Lizrr on Thursday 29 June 06 15:57 BST (UK)
Thanks Audrey i would never have thought of this i have had to
order a extract to be sent from SP as there is no view of it.
Thank's very much Liz
Title: Re: Is this a lost cause?
Post by: Pat Reid on Thursday 29 June 06 23:36 BST (UK)
Liz:
This looks promising:
CONN Y-DNA PROJECT WEBSITE - Family Project WebsiteJAMES CONN b~1830 of County Armagh, Ireland (Kit #17609): Tested at 37 markers, currently has no matches within the CONN project. ...
www.familytreedna.com/public/conn/ - 27k - Cached - Similar pages
Unfortunately, when I clicked on it, I could get no details. Perhaps you can contact the site directly.
Try a google search with armagh and you will get lots of hits.

Good luck.

Pat
Title: Re: Is this a lost cause?
Post by: Lizrr on Friday 30 June 06 08:09 BST (UK)
Pat thank you i will see where this leads to. 
I am so grateful to all the wonderful folk on this site
 who have helped me.   Pat will let you know if anything
comes of it.
Liz
Title: Re: Is this a lost cause?
Post by: tootsiepie on Sunday 02 July 06 20:50 BST (UK)
Hi Liz, It's a parish record S.P will send you as it's pre 1855, so it probably won't  give parent info or place of birth--(fingers crossed, but I doubt it).  I would try for deaths of Margaret LillIE and James Conn, to get their parents names.  Then you would be working with an extra couple of surnames which might help narrow down the area(s) they came from.

There is a death on S.P for a Margaret Lillie/Conn died 1900 aged 60 in Lanarkshire.  If its yours , it would tell you if she was still married or a widow(at time of death) so then you could search for a death for James Conn either between 1881 and 1900 OR 1900 to say abt 1930ish.   Take note on any of their childrens marriage certs whether they were alive or dead at time of marriage, and this can maybe help reduce search years for parents deaths.
Title: Re: Is this a lost cause?
Post by: Lizrr on Monday 03 July 06 08:28 BST (UK)
Hi Liz, It's a parish record S.P will send you as it's pre 1855, so it probably won't  give parent info or place of birth--(fingers crossed, but I doubt it).  I would try for deaths of Margaret LillIE and James Conn, to get their parents names.  Then you would be working with an extra couple of surnames which might help narrow down the area(s) they came from.

There is a death on S.P for a Margaret Lillie/Conn died 1900 aged 60 in Lanarkshire.  If its yours , it would tell you if she was still married or a widow(at time of death) so then you could search for a death for James Conn either between 1881 and 1900 OR 1900 to say abt 1930ish.   Take note on any of their childrens marriage certs whether they were alive or dead at time of marriage, and this can maybe help reduce search years for parents deaths.

 I think you are right. James Conn was still alive in 1883 when Elizabeth Married so i will try for death certificate thank you
so much. I am following up the kids as i have been told maybe the 6 girls i put on are not My James and Margarets family.AS there was not Maiden name for The Mum on the list i wrongly thought it was them.   Same pottery work same name but i think there were a whole family of Conns all living there in Govan. So  this is another thing i have to work out. Was sent another set of names.  thanks.  Liz
Title: Re: Is this a lost cause?
Post by: maryderry on Wednesday 05 July 06 20:19 BST (UK)
i found this, don't know if it is any help to you.mary conn married george doherty. derry 1869.


                      good luck mary.
Title: Re: Is this a lost cause?
Post by: Lizrr on Wednesday 05 July 06 20:42 BST (UK)
Hello Mary i found my James Conn with most of the work done by another member of this site. This is my Mothers side of the family
James Conn married Margaret Lilly or Lillie or Lilley depending on who wrote the document.The census was mine but they also had 2 sons i never knew about. The ages where a little out on the census but i did have the right family.
The Member also found this
James Conn death certificate
Here is James Conn's death certificate:

17 Nov 1884 at 133 Main St. Govan.
James Conn, Iron Forger aged 61.  Married 1) Sarah Laird 2) Margaret Lilley.  Parents: Michael Conn, Brickfield Labourer and Mary Conn, maiden surname Stewart, both deceased.
Cause of death: Pneumonia about 4 days.

Wonder now is its Derry they came from
So thanks to you and everyone who helped. Liz

Doherty is My Maiden name