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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Cambridgeshire => Topic started by: trachelospermum on Tuesday 20 June 06 21:32 BST (UK)
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Hi, I am trying to locate the birth/baptism of Stephen Jopson who married in Haverhill, Suffolk in 1827. As Haverhill borders on Cambridgeshire, I thought I'd try here! Can anyone tell me which parishes in Cambridge border Haverhill? A map would be great! I've tried genuki with no luck and can't find a mp on the net, any help appreciated, thanks, Jo
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Hi,
I see that Stephen (age 65, Weaver), Rebecca (35) and daughter Harriet (8) are on the 1841 in Haverhill, suffolk. all born in county. Cant find them on the 1851 at present but note that Haverhill now seems to come under Essex. I'm afraid I dont have local knowledge but will keep trying to find them on 1851 or later.
Nettle
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Hi, thanks for that, unfortunately Stephen died in 1846 and Rebecca in 1844, so they aren' on the 1851 (obviously!). I can't find Stephen on the Haverhill baptisms, but if he moved there while young he may think he was born there. That's the straw I'm clutching at for now anyway! Tyhanks, Jo
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Only Shudy Camps in Cambridgeshire borders Haverhill but there are a couple of Essex parishes which also border on it. I have failed to work out which they are.
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I noticed that there was a handful of male Jopson contemporaries of Stephen on the 1851 census indicating their births in Helions Bumpstead. Might there be worth a try?
Nettle.
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Could well be, thanks! Is that in Suffolk or Essex? The boundary changes confuse me! Jo
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I see it's in Essex!
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Castle Camps in Cambridge borders Haverhill (3miles)
Helions Bumpsted in Essex is not far too
I have several marriages where men from Haverhill marry women from Castle Camps, and if you can walk there!!
I have the same problem, tri county look ups.
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It's awkward, isn't it? At least I've knocked Helions Bumpstead off the list now, so Castle Camps is next! Thanks, Jo
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Cambridgeshire parishes in the general area look to be
Castle Camps
Shudy Camps
Horse Heath
West Wickham
Bartlow
and a bit further afield are Linton and Balsham, West Wratting and Weston Colville
In Essex I think you are looking at :
Sturmer
Helions Bumpstead
Steeple Bumpstead
Birdbrook
Hope that helps,
Julie
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I have just remembered there is freeare package you can download called parloc (here I think http://www.yorksgen.org.uk) which will give you the distances between places. A list of 5 miles radius of Haverhill is
The following list of Parishes are within a
5 Mile Radius of Haverhill, P, SFK, ENG.
Parish Name Type,County,Country,OsRef Distance & Direction
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Barnardiston P SFK ENG TL7148 3.6 East by North East
Bartlow P CAM ENG TL5845 5.0 West
Birdbrook P ESS ENG TL7041 3.5 South East
Castle Camps P CAM ENG TL6343 2.2 West by South West
Great Bradley P SFK ENG TL6653 5.0 North
Great Thurlow P SFK ENG TL6750 3.2 North
Great Wratting P SFK ENG TL6848 2.2 North by North East
Haverhill P SFK ENG TL6645 0.0
Helions Bumpstead P ESS ENG TL6541 2.6 South by South West
Horseheath P CAM ENG TL6147 3.3 West by North West
Hundon P SFK ENG TL7348 4.7 East by North East
Kedington P SFK ENG TL7046 2.6 East by North East
Little Bradley P SFK ENG TL6852 4.5 North by North East
Little Thurlow P SFK ENG TL6751 3.8 North
Little Wratting P SFK ENG TL6847 1.8 North East
Shudy Camps P CAM ENG TL6144 3.2 West by South West
Steeple Bumpstead P ESS ENG TL6841 2.8 South by South East
Sturmer P ESS ENG TL6943 2.2 East by South East
West Wickham P CAM ENG TL6149 4.0 North West
Withersfield P SFK ENG TL6547 1.4 North by North West
Wixoe P SFK ENG TL7142 3.6 East by South East
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Wow, thanks for the link, that's going to be invaluable as I have a few other ancestors that I am in a similar situation with, thanks, Jo
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Hi
There are only JOBSON's on the Linton Baptisms. I am local and I have spoken to someone regarding the name JOPSON and there were some in the area in the 1930's, however they were non-conformists so there is a chance the one you are looking for was too - this would mean that the baptism wasn't on the standard registers.
Corcam
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Which registers would they be on then? I thought they would all be on the one register - sort of a central one?
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I hope I have this right and I am sure someone will correct me if I am wrong.
Parish Records usually come from the Parish Church which in most cases is Church of England. Non conformist registers are usually transcribed seperately and available through the Family History Societies.
There is a note regarding Haverhill's on the Cambridgeshire Family History society under current projects.
Corcam
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All parish registers in England are Church of England. At various periods mainly in the 18th century the parish registers had to contain all baptisms in the parish including non-conformist ones.
The only collection of non-conformist registers was that at Dr Williams Library particular from 1742 onwards. These are available at the Family Record Centre in London,
Bapitist Church Baptisms of course did not take place until the age of at least 12 usually later.
David
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So the fact that I can't find a baptism in the parish that I think it may have taken place, doesn't necessarily mean it didn't happen there, it may have been non conformist and entered in these records in London? Jo