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Title: Does Anyone live in Shaftesbury?
Post by: trish251 on Monday 19 June 06 10:37 BST (UK)

I would love some digital photographs of the Shaftesbury area - in particular the mills at Cann and Melbury Abbas - and also the church at Melbury Abbas. I have found some online but they are all copyright & I really want to use the photos in my "family book" without copyright concerns . Acknowledgement of course.

My family were also living in Salisbury Street, from 1842 onwards.

In return I'm happy to try and trace anything you need in Australia - preferably the Eastern States as my knowledge of all things to the west is very minimal.

Trish

Title: Re: Does Anyone live in Shaftesbury?
Post by: Mobo on Thursday 06 July 06 16:44 BST (UK)

 ;D ;D ;D

Sorry, I don't live there Trish, but I did go on holiday there once.  I have a pickie of 'Golden Hill' if you're interested.

 :D :D :D

Title: Re: Does Anyone live in Shaftesbury?
Post by: stockman fred on Thursday 06 July 06 16:55 BST (UK)

Hi, I wondered if you had had any luck with the photos? If the weather's not too thundery, I have to go to Shaftesbury via Cann and will have a quick look as it's a lovely part of the world and it's no trouble.
Fred.

Title: Re: Does Anyone live in Shaftesbury?
Post by: trish251 on Friday 07 July 06 07:49 BST (UK)

Thank you so much both for answering

Mobo - would love a photo of "Golden Hill" - I will pm my email address

Fred - that would be wonderful - I have recently contacted someone on the net (not through RC) who sent me photos of the churches at Cann & Melbury Abbas but I would LOVE photos of the mills or simply the general area - so I shall hope it's not too thundery. Many many thanks.

Trish

Title: Re: Does Anyone live in Shaftesbury?
Post by: Mobo on Friday 07 July 06 10:56 BST (UK)

 ;D ;D ;D

Sorry Trish - I should have said "Gold Hill"  -  a very well known and much photographed Dorset landmark. Anyway I'll e-mail you a photo.   But just in case you have a problem opening it, I'm posting it here as well.

 ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Does Anyone live in Shaftesbury?
Post by: Mobo on Friday 07 July 06 11:32 BST (UK)

 ;D ;D ;D

Hey Trish,

I clicked on the e-mail link you provided in your PM, but it came back as "undeliverable mail"  ??? ???

 :) :) :)

Title: Re: Does Anyone live in Shaftesbury?
Post by: trish251 on Friday 07 July 06 13:31 BST (UK)

Hi Mobo

many thanks for the pic - I have seen photos of this area on the net - lovely to have one!  I shall now go and check whether or not I gave you the correct email - I think I probably got it wrong! Sorry

Trish

Title: Re: Does Anyone live in Shaftesbury?
Post by: Mobo on Friday 07 July 06 14:32 BST (UK)

 ;D ;D ;D

Ah ! that's better Trish - you should get it this time !!

 ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Does Anyone live in Shaftesbury?
Post by: stockman fred on Friday 07 July 06 14:44 BST (UK)

Hi all,
I think they used Gold Hill in the famous Hovis advert with the little boy  ("It were just arter t'war...") where it represented the industrial North!
I've got a feeling it was also used in "Far from the madding crowd" with Alan Bates and Julie Christie- I seem to remember Troy's troopers there but I might be wrong on that one.  :)
I took some pics last night but they're not quite of the same standard as Mobo's. I'll have a play with them this evening though- oh the wonders of technology ???
Fred.

Title: Re: Does Anyone live in Shaftesbury?
Post by: trish251 on Friday 07 July 06 14:46 BST (UK)

I did indeed   8)   8)   8)  Thank you so much - bit of a worry that I get my own address wrong - a rare event she says  8)  8)

thanks again

Trish

Title: Re: Does Anyone live in Shaftesbury?
Post by: Mobo on Friday 07 July 06 14:48 BST (UK)

Quote from: stockman fred on Friday 07 July 06 14:44 BST (UK)

Hi all,
I think they used Gold Hill in the famous Hovis advert with the little boy  ("It were just arter t'war...") where it represented the industrial North!
I've got a feeling it was also used in "Far from the madding crowd" with Alan Bates and Julie Christie- I seem to remember Troy's troopers there but I might be wrong on that one.  :)

Fred.

 ;D ;D ;D

I think you're right on both counts Fred.

 ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Does Anyone live in Shaftesbury?
Post by: trish251 on Friday 07 July 06 14:53 BST (UK)

Hello Fred

Thanks for the information - interesting - I remember Julie Christie in the movie but don't remember Gold Hill  :)

I'm sure your photos are fab - I am waiting impatiently. I'll pm my email and hopefully get it right on the first attempt  :D  :D
- So glad it wasn't too thundery.

Trish

Title: Re: Does Anyone live in Shaftesbury?
Post by: trish251 on Saturday 08 July 06 11:59 BST (UK)

Hi all

Fred just sent me some photos of Salisbury Street - and he has more to send

and I am just so thrilled - fabulous - many many thanks

:o   :o   :o   :o   :o   :o   :o 

 

;D   ;D   ;D   ;D   ;D     ;D   ;D   ;D  ;D

Trish

Title: Re: Does Anyone live in Shaftesbury?
Post by: stockman fred on Saturday 08 July 06 14:18 BST (UK)

I saw  one of the famous Dorset "Bridge plates" near Melbury Abbas  telling us all how to get to Australia on the cheap! I'll take a pic and post it on here for anyone who hasn't seen one. ;)
Fred.

Title: Re: Does Anyone live in Shaftesbury?
Post by: trish251 on Sunday 09 July 06 03:20 BST (UK)

Hi Fred

I haven't seen one - and I have no idea what you are talking about - but most interested

Trish

Title: Re: Does Anyone live in Shaftesbury?
Post by: stockman fred on Sunday 09 July 06 12:15 BST (UK)

I think a photo might overload the system here, but I'll send one for the album.  :)
Most of the old County bridges in Dorset have cast iron plaques bearing the following message:
"DORSET 
 Any person wilfully injuring any part of this county bridge will be guilty of felony and upon conviction liable to be transported for life. By the Court.
7&8 Geo4 C30 S13.   T.FOOKS" >:(
I think the date equates to 1827/8 and I always wondered why Mr. Fooks was so bothered about injuries to his bridges? Perhaps if you were passing with an empty cart, the temptation was too great? More likely, the bridges were threatened by the unrest among the farm labourers of the period.
Fred.

Title: Re: Does Anyone live in Shaftesbury?
Post by: trish251 on Sunday 09 July 06 13:22 BST (UK)

Living in the land of convicts - I should have realised that  :)   :) 
I hope Mr Fooks got his just reward.

My Dorset folk were free settlers but we do have a convict in the family - from Yorkshire - took quite some persuading to get the older family members to discuss same.  :)  :)

My book is looking much better with the photographs. Your plaque will be a noteworthy item for an Australian Story.

Trish

PS Wonder if we can threaten to send the folks back who throw rocks off our road bridges today  ???

Title: Re: Does Anyone live in Shaftesbury?
Post by: stockman fred on Sunday 09 July 06 15:07 BST (UK)

Some other evidence of those times is the "Red sign post". There is one on the main road to Dorchester. Apparantly, after the trials at Dorchester assizes, prisoners were marched off under guard to the ships at Portsmouth and it took several days, so they slept in certain barns on the way. The red sign post pointed to the barn.
All sorts of legends grew up around it though- Grandad told us that a highwayman had been shot at the post. No matter how hard they tried, the authorities could never  scrub his blood off so in the end they gave up and painted it red! I've heard  similar stories from friends.
Even into the 19th century, there was a strong folk memory of Judge Jefferies and his Bloody Assizes, it caused huge resentment in the West Country.
Fred

Title: Re: Does Anyone live in Shaftesbury?
Post by: r_hanger on Tuesday 26 September 06 06:41 BST (UK)

Hi Trish,

Just found your request, I can help you with photos as I was born and bred in Melbury Abbas, now live in WA.
Let me know if you still need photos

Rachel Hanger

Title: Re: Does Anyone live in Shaftesbury?
Post by: trish251 on Tuesday 26 September 06 11:06 BST (UK)

Rachel

Thank you so much for your kind offer - I probably have enough pictures for my book at the minute as Fred was very kind in travelling around and taking photos for me.  I was interested in photos of any local Mills if you have any of them.

You have travelled a long way  :)  I am still amazed at the strength and courage of immigrants who come so far whether it be 200 years ago or current - tis a long way from home.

My family were originally from Melbury Abbas (some are buried there). Family name was Miles. James Miles married Mary Bullen 1811 - any connections?

many thanks

Trish

Title: Re: Does Anyone live in Shaftesbury?
Post by: r_hanger on Wednesday 27 September 06 06:29 BST (UK)

Trish,

Can you email me at email address removed by moderator - please use the secure Rootschat personal message system to exchange personal email addresses - thankyouWe may have a lot to talk about !

Rachel

Title: Re: Does Anyone live in Shaftesbury?
Post by: RecursiveS on Sunday 29 October 06 18:24 GMT (UK)

Trish. You may have enough photos already but as I live in Shaftesbury I would be happy to let you have anything that I have or can get for you....

I also have a web address where you can get some pictures copyright free, and perhaps you would email/contact me so that I can let you have that as well.

Sorry, not quite sure of the protocol on this site yet, and don't want to offend the mods! :)

Title: Re: Does Anyone live in Shaftesbury?
Post by: trish251 on Sunday 29 October 06 23:44 GMT (UK)

Welcome to RC & many thanks for your offer. I will send you a PM. I think it is allowed to post your web address  :) (anyway the mods delete anything they don't like  ;D )  If you want to exchange emails, do it via PM otherwise the email can be picked up by the spam robots which causes grief.

Trish

Title: Re: Does Anyone live in Shaftesbury?
Post by: taffi52 on Thursday 27 September 07 22:27 BST (UK)

Fred: You are quite right on both counts ref the Hovis advert and the film 'Far from the Madding Crowd' I was at the girl's high chool in 1967 and a group of us sneaked off to catch a glimpse of Terence Stamp!

Trish many thanks for the reply and your good advice. I am getting a little more used to the site!  I lived 2 miles from Shaftesburyin a hamlet called Sherborne Causeway/Cherry Orchard. I went to primary school in Motcombe -also 2 miles from shaftebury but the other way. There are exit roads all around the town.  My secondary school was in Shaftesbury - sadly no longer there, and a girl in my class married a 'Miles'... small world!

2 years ago while working on the family tree I was very proud to discover that I was the gggg grand daughter of James Hammett, one of the Tolpuddle Martyrs. It was actually Rhodie another member who pointed me in the right direction ..I'm sure she won't mind me telling everyone - she has been such a great help and we met up at the annual festival.

Title: Re: Does Anyone live in Shaftesbury?
Post by: trish251 on Thursday 27 September 07 23:11 BST (UK)

Hi Taffi

I knew little of the Tolpuddle Martyrs until Fred got me interested in Dorset history and hanging Judges and the civil war - so I read up much more on Dorset. The Martyrs were some of the very few who made it back from Australia. Most who came, stayed for the rest of their lives, even after their terms finished.

Trish

Title: Re: Does Anyone live in Shaftesbury?
Post by: stockman fred on Thursday 04 October 07 00:33 BST (UK)

I managed to get to the Martyrs' museum on Sunday after getting "fired up" by the RC threads. It's a lovely area down that way :). Unfortunately, it looks as if "we" were on the wrong side of the struggle- my folks were farming in Bere Regis and Turners Puddle during the early 19th century, and were presumably on the side of the authorities.  :-[
Fred

Title: Re: Does Anyone live in Shaftesbury?
Post by: trish251 on Thursday 04 October 07 01:34 BST (UK)

Quote from: stockman fred on Thursday 04 October 07 00:33 BST (UK)

I managed to get to the Martyrs' museum on Sunday after getting "fired up" by the RC threads. It's a lovely area down that way :). Unfortunately, it looks as if "we" were on the wrong side of the struggle- my folks were farming in Bere Regis and Turners Puddle during the early 19th century, and were presumably on the side of the authorities.  :-[
Fred

In most "wars" be they civil or outside a country the folks on the ground get little say as to which side they would like to support - "damned if you do & damned if you don't".  It is only after the event (and usually many moons after) with 20:20 vision we hold at fault one side or the other

Trish

PS I am very envious of you meandering around my place of origin with such ease  :)

Title: Re: Does Anyone live in Shaftesbury?
Post by: taffi52 on Monday 08 October 07 00:31 BST (UK)

Hi Trish, Yes James Hammett returned to his native village and died there in 1891 The others all emigrated toCanada. If he had stayed in Australia I wouldn't have to be going through our nightmare emigration application! We are hoping to join you next year!

I am so looking forward to tracing his footsteps!

Title: Re: Does Anyone live in Shaftesbury?
Post by: trish251 on Monday 08 October 07 05:46 BST (UK)

Quote from: taffi52 on Monday 08 October 07 00:31 BST (UK)

Hi Trish, Yes James Hammett returned to his native village and died there in 1891 The others all emigrated toCanada. If he had stayed in Australia I wouldn't have to be going through our nightmare emigration application! We are hoping to join you next year!

I am so looking forward to tracing his footsteps!

And here I am envious of you over there and wanting to come back  :)  :)  It is a big step to take, I wish you much success. There are many immigrants much more recent than myself (my dorset folks left 1850) who will no doubt give all sorts of advice. Where are you planning to go?

Trish

Title: Re: Does Anyone live in Shaftesbury?
Post by: taffi52 on Thursday 11 October 07 22:11 BST (UK)

Hi Trish - hopefully Brisbane  ;D

Title: Re: Does Anyone live in Shaftesbury?
Post by: trish251 on Monday 15 October 07 12:59 BST (UK)

Quote from: taffi52 on Thursday 11 October 07 22:11 BST (UK)

Hi Trish - hopefully Brisbane  ;D

Best bring some rain or bottled water  :(  :(  Very dry here. Also bring lots of Dorset pics to share  :)  :)

Hope it goes well

Trish

Title: Re: Does Anyone live in Shaftesbury?
Post by: angelcake on Saturday 17 November 07 13:39 GMT (UK)

I don't live in Shaftesbury but my paternal family come from there - they being Morgan, Petty, Wooldridge,


We had family that lived on Salisbury St

I have a few photos as well of the town if of any interest

Angelcake

Title: Re: Does Anyone live in Shaftesbury?
Post by: trish251 on Saturday 17 November 07 15:13 GMT (UK)

Hi Angel

I was about to go to bed (being 1am in my world) when your post arrived. Tis my mother's family that came from Shaftesbury - their name was Miles - I haven't seen any of your names in my tree.

I probably have enough pics for my book at the minute - but many thanks for the offer

Trish